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Post by Driver Wed 08 Jun 2011, 3:16 pm

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Welcome to the 4th season of the fantasy aviva premiership game


Opening Weekend fixtures; Leicester Tigers vs Exeter Chiefs ; London Irish vs Harlequins ; Newcastle Falcons vs Bath ; Northampton vs Gloucester ; Saracens vs London Wasps ; Worcester Warriors vs Sale Sharks

This Weeks match thread(s) :- https://www.606v2.com/t8662-fixtures-3#245781

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Post by Guest Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:25 pm

You would think for 130 Kg that Vunipola could scrummage. However he has been smashed in both games.

Armitage played well yesterday and both second rows work rate was very impressive. Launchbury looked a real talent

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:35 pm

Can anyone who hasn't predicted yet get them in by tomorrow morning at the latest
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:36 pm

Tackling on Wade was dire, Armitage looks some player

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:42 pm

They all played really well yesterday, was impressed at how well Vunipola played in the loose, was getting around the park a lot and sucks in defenders. Absolute beast of a man.

Launchbury is a really good player Mat, got into the first team last season in the backrow. With Shaw and Filipo he has got two brilliant players to learn from next season - just saw the two try saving tackles, impressive. He has a similar style to a young Simon Shaw. Was very impressed with Matthews in the second row too.

What do people think of Wade? I'm tempted to play a lot of them in my team during the WC, would I get marked down if I had say Launchbury, Wade and guys like Liam Gill in the team?

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Post by Guest Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:44 pm

Does not matter how good a prop is in the loose its what he does in the tight. Vunipola is a trypical islander in that he is only interested in working when he has the ball.

does not hit enough rucks or do the basics well enough. Not sure if they will ever get him to do that. Serioulsy unimpressed with him in every game i have seen

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:47 pm

Depends on who they're up against Chris. Launchbury/Wade are not even AP starters so they'll struggle in this league I'm guessing.

Bit different to looking good in the U20 WC than to playing against top draw opposition. You could have Wade up against Mitchell, Maitland or Rokocoko.....he'd get mullered!!!

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:48 pm

A front 5 forwards 1st job is to set a platform his 2nd is to hit every contact as if he's life depends on it
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Post by stnick88 Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:56 pm

wade has looked good every time i've seen him

hoping guy armitage gets some game time at 13 for irish this season, him and jj give us good options in the centre for the future

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 19 Jun 2011, 1:58 pm

Launchbury is an AP starter for Wasps now, played last 6-8 games of last season. Wade's also seems to have pushed in front of Haughton now so both should get some bigger recognition.

I try and give them a few games every now and then, hopefully the WC will be a good time when top draw players arent around!

Thought Vunipola did pretty well with both of those Driver, the SA scrum had murdered the Scotish and Irish scrums and the breakdown - Vunipla smashed players back in the tackle area most of the game. Needs to work on his fitness but SArries probably is the best club for him to get onto the next level.

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 2:20 pm

How do people rate Steven Myler on here? I think he's class act in the 10 jersey but i think he gets picked on in my backline should i continue with him or start ROG or Houghard
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Post by stnick88 Sun 19 Jun 2011, 2:22 pm

ROG in the wet

myler in decent conditions

he's steady but not the most creative 10

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 2:26 pm

I think playing EFS or King outside him will suit him down to a tee as it makes up the creativity
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Post by stnick88 Sun 19 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

EFS at 12 and king at 13 would be good

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 2:50 pm

Myler is a good AP flyhalf, steady and not going to let you down. Came on a fair but last season. Have him around 4th or 5th for England behind Hodgson.

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

ATTENTION ALL

The rules from the summer cup no longer apply and we are going back to 10 EQ players in your squad with 5 of them starting.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:01 pm

Good article on those who could bolt for the NZ squad:

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.php?c_id=4&objectid=10733206

Guildford, Ben Smith, Kahui and Williams in with a big chance apparently.

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:11 pm

All Blacks need some magic in there back 3 if they are to win the RWC

Have a feeling Henry will go

11.Sivivatu
14.Jane
15.Mils

Where i'd go

11.Horsea Gear
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15.Isreal Dagg
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:16 pm

Think Sivi is injured....I prefer Maitland to Guildford but getting injured has knocked him back a bit. Gear has been pretty poor for most of the S15, I'd go:

11. Guildford
14. Jane
15. Smith

Think that back 3 gives everything, esp under the high ball and counter attacking.

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

I think Smith will be the bench man covers everywhere in the outside backs but still has a lot of little mistakes in his game which could cost NZ dearly in the RWC. Doesn't seem to counter that well with the rest of his back 3 but by himself he's great!
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Post by Guest Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:28 pm

interesting the ones who they have as playing themselves out of contention

Hore, jane, Donald, donnely etc.

I hope Donald does not go for me on here.

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11 Gear
14 Guildford
15 Mils

Mils is still the best in the world for me. every time he is written off he comes back better.

Dagg was also on fire this year. Smith is steady and more of a club player in my mind. Dont think he will go to WC

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Post by Guest Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:28 pm

interesting the ones who they have as playing themselves out of contention

Hore, jane, Donald, donnely etc.

I hope Donald does not go for me on here.

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11 Gear
14 Guildford
15 Mils

Mils is still the best in the world for me. every time he is written off he comes back better.

Dagg was also on fire this year. Smith is steady and more of a club player in my mind. Dont think he will go to WC

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:30 pm

I've been really impressed with him and the ability to cover 12-15 would be invaluable. Mils looks finished this S15 so prob between Smith and Dagg unless Henry picks Mils on sentiment.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:36 pm

"Smith has arguably been the form outside back of the season"

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:38 pm

Tri Nations is going to be huge this year, some major calls for Henry

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 19 Jun 2011, 7:55 pm

Henry has said he'll give everyone game time. See them struggling with continuity a bit.

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Post by Guest Sun 19 Jun 2011, 8:07 pm

"Mils looks finished this S15"

have a word with yourself pooly. Mils had a better super 15 than Conrad smith and a few other AB's Just played in a poor side.

LAst time people wrote him off was last year when he was injured. he was then the player of the autumn internationals and devestating in every game

He will start the WC guaranteed. No sentimentality. ben smith was playing Gloucester 2 a few years ago at 10.

I like smith but he is a club player. Jane will be cover as 3rd FB.

If Dagg does not recover SMith will go. The thing is players do not want to peak before the WC. lots of the conditioning will be for them to peak for the WC.

Thats probably why even people like Mccaw have been poor this 6n when they have played. Carter has been up and down although incredible last few weeks

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 Jun 2011, 8:18 pm

Not seen Mils have a good 2 games in a row this year, he looks ready for Japan already!

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Post by 'Arry Sun 19 Jun 2011, 8:27 pm

Looking for a replacement tighthead prop, a replacement second rower, a openside flanker, a inside and outside centre and a full back.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 19 Jun 2011, 8:37 pm

mils will start for sure he is still a class act

i'd go guildford and gear.

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Post by Driver Sun 19 Jun 2011, 9:50 pm

Matt , Luke , Prop and Pete to predict still
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 20 Jun 2011, 10:13 am

England's 45-man Rugby World Cup training squad:

FORWARDS: Mouritz Botha (Saracens), George Chuter (Leicester Tigers), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Alex Corbisiero (London Irish), Tom Croft (Leicester Tigers), Louis Deacon (Leicester Tigers), Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton Saints), Nick Easter (Harlequins), Hendre Fourie (Sale Sharks), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Unattached), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Lee Mears (Bath Rugby), Lewis Moody (Bath Rugby), Tom Palmer (Stade Francais), Tim Payne (London Wasps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Simon Shaw (London Wasps), Andrew Sheridan (Sale Sharks), Matt Stevens (Saracens), Steve Thompson (London Wasps), Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers), David Wilson (Bath Rugby), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints), Joe Worsley (London Wasps).

BACKS: Delon Armitage (London Irish), Chris Ashton (Northampton Saints), Matt Banahan (Bath Rugby), Danny Care (Harlequins), Mark Cueto (Sale Sharks), Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers), Riki Flutey (London Wasps), Ben Foden (Northampton Saints), Shontayne Hape (London Irish), Charlie Hodgson (Saracens), Ugo Monye (Harlequins), Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby), Joe Simpson (London Wasps), James Simpson-Daniel (Gloucester Rugby), David Strettle (Saracens), Mike Tindall (Gloucester Rugby), Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens), Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 20 Jun 2011, 10:40 am

Good to see Sharples sneaking in there, he's been impressive.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 11:37 am

matt will be glad to see him and JSD in there!
wouldnt of minded Benjamin being in there, although I guess him being in the championship for a year hasnt helped.

Worsley is a pointless selection.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 20 Jun 2011, 12:28 pm

I don't think Benjamin would have ever made it, came a bit early although he's looked tasty. I'd like to see Sharples took as a bolter over JSD, just not convinced with him.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 12:46 pm

I like Sharples, possibly offers a bit more than Monye aswell. Tough call between him and JSD though.

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Post by Guest Mon 20 Jun 2011, 1:16 pm

Interesting. apparently sharples really impressed the england management with his footballing skills.

No Attwood is not surprising either. Botha has really showed up well and has taken his opportunity

Waldrom is interesting. Pete will not be happy

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 20 Jun 2011, 1:27 pm

Just watching the Under 20's game. SA commentators are dire.

I am gutted I didn't keep Launchbury in my academy when he was attatched to Quins. Kept Twomney and Matthews instead so still managed to get 2 out of 3 England Locks.

With regards to the Englamds squad i am quite pleased. Would rather have had Crane, Narraway or Fearns ahead of Waldrom.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:08 pm

Yeh Narraway can count himself unlucky, definitely wouldnt of had crane or fearns over waldrom though.

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Post by Guest Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:10 pm

would not have had crane over my dog

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Post by Driver Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:32 pm

South Africa Rugby World Cup training squad:

Backs: Gio Aplon, Jaque Fourie, Bryan Habana, Ricky Januarie, Juan de Jongh, Jean de Villiers, Bjorn Basson, Francois Hougaard, Zane Kirchner, Wynand Olivier, Fourie du Preez, Morne Steyn, Adrian Jacobs, Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo, Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen, Butch James, Elton Jantjies, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Steyn

Forwards: Willem Alberts, Alistair Hargreaves, Ryan Kankowski, Tendai Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, John Smit (capt), Andries Bekker, Schalk Burger, Francois Louw, Duane Vermeulen, Bakkies Botha, Dean Greyling, Werner Kruger, Victor Matfield (vice-capt), Flip van der Merwe, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Danie Rossouw, Pierre Spies, Gurthro Steenkamp, Deon Stegmann, BJ Botha, Johann Muller, Heinrich Brussow, Ashley Johnson, Coenie Oosthuizen, Juan Smith, Adriaan Strauss.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:43 pm

"would not have had crane over my dog"

Lol.....

Quite happy with Waldroum, not a huge fan of any of our backup 8's.


 

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Post by Driver Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:56 pm

Anybody seen this snazzy bit of stash?

http://www.lovell-rugby.co.uk/Rugby-Shirts/Forces-Rugby/British-Army-Kitchener-SS-Leisure-Rugby-Shirt
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 3:13 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Interesting. apparently sharples really impressed the england management with his footballing skills.

No Attwood is not surprising either. Botha has really showed up well and has taken his opportunity

Waldrom is interesting. Pete will not be happy


Think Waldrom ultimately is a backward step, as is Botha in some respect as it's not like they are young guys who are going to be around for the next decade. Would rather have seen homegrown talent in their place, but in terms of this game it's good for me, as I get to keep Kitchener and Narraway through the World Cup.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 3:32 pm

not sure if Botha will make the final squad. hopefully not could do with him for my squad during the WC!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 20 Jun 2011, 6:20 pm

Dont know how Botha is in ahead of Skivington. would be well hacked off I were him - not even considered good enough for the Saxons.

Some odd calls, e.g. why wasnt Waldroum picked in the Saxons first, not sure I agree with him playing anyway - same with Botha - neither would get into their national teams so why should they play for England. Bugs me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 20 Jun 2011, 6:25 pm

Skivington has had a bad season. Switch to Leicester hasn't paid off this year

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 20 Jun 2011, 6:54 pm

Steven, he had a bad first 2 months and then was excellent from then on. Thought he'd improved in every game. To not include him in the Saxons even is a kick in the teeth, especially when he picks Deacon whose hardly played in months!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 10:39 pm

Agree with Steve, Skivington had a poor year and if you were picking solely on form would be behind Botha who played consistently well all season for Saracens.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 21 Jun 2011, 8:21 am

Pete will like this one...Jones given world cup ultamatium:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2011/06/21/adam-jones-handed-world-cup-ultimatum-over-weight-gain-91466-28911375/


And Narraway has had a whinge about Waldroum:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2005975/Martin-Johnson-defends-England-World-Cup-squad-selection.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 21 Jun 2011, 9:25 am

I did see Narraways tweet Pooly, made me chuckle somewhat.
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