India v England Test Series Tipping Competition

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2021 India v England Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both India and England whom you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Burns, Root, Broad, Bess

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Gill, Stokes

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Pant or Buttler... or "the same" amount of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
England

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the 1st Test result.
e.g.
India

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 20 points for 100 runs.
extra 25 points for 150 runs.
extra 40 points for 200 runs.
extra 50 points for 250 runs.
extra 60 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting:
100 runs = 120 points. A player scores 127 + 20 = 147 points.
150 runs = 195 points. A player scores 176 + 20 + 25 = 221 points.
200 runs = 285 points. A player scores 243 + 20 + 25 + 40 = 328 points.
250 runs = 385 points. A player scores 282 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 = 417 points
300+ runs = 445 points. A player scores 309 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 + 60 = 504 points.

Bowling:
20 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 35 points for 6-fer, 40 for 7-fer, 45 for 8-fer, 50 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 100 + 50 = 150 points
6 wickets = 120 + 50 + 35 = 205 points.
7 wickets = 140 + 50 + 35 + 40 = 265 points
8 wickets = 160 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 = 330 points
9 wickets = 180 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 = 400 points
10 wickets = 200 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 + 100 = 520 points

Caught and bowled = 20 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 45 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsmen earn you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for correct selection. e,g. - Pant or Buttler.
Or if you think they will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 15 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 15 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test = 75 points.
b) If you guess all 4 Test Match outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 300 + 125 = 425 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 75 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped). Doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

February 05-09: 1st Test at M.A. Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai. England won by 227 runs. (0-1)

February 13-17: 2nd Test at M.A. Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai. India won by 317 runs. (1-1)

February 24-28: 3rd Test at Sardar Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad. India won by 10 wickets. (2-1)

March 04-08: 4th Test at Sardar Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad. India won by an innings and 25 runs. (3-1)

*****

Good Luck!

Archer, Leach, Root, Crawley (Stokes if Crawley doesn't play)
Pujara, Kohli, Bumrah, Ashwin
Stokes, Rahane
Foakes
England win toss and bat
England win

Anderson, Archer (Woakes, Leach as back up), Root, Pope
Rahane, Kohli, Bumrah, Umesh (Ashwin as back up)

Root Kohli

Foakes

England bat

India

1. Pujara, Pant, Ashwin, Bumrah
Pope, Root, Anderson, Leach

2. Pope
Rahane

3. Foakes

4. India, bat

5. India win

Root, Bairstow, Anderson, Leach
Kohli, Pujara, Bumrah, Ashwin

Root, Kohli

Foakes

England bat

Errrrrmmmm... England (feeling optimistic)

Thanks again, PJ.

I've a bit to do in the morning. Buy the paper and cook myself bacon and eggs before settling down to the cricket. If time allow, I may try to change some of these selections before the toss but here goes for now -

Root, Pope, Bess, Leach (bowling replacements in order: Woakes and then Archer or the fast man most like him)
Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Axar Patel

Pope, Kohli

Pant

England bat

India.

Anderson Leach Root Stokes
Kohli Rahane Ashwin Axar

Root Kohli

Foakes

India . Bat

England

Received from KP_fan Wed 24 Feb - 8:19

Hello PJ,
Trust all well with you. Its a tense test match , lot at stake for both teams

Here are my selections for T3

India
bat:Kohli and Gill
bowl:Ashwin and Sundar. ( If no Sundar then will change soon after we know the team )

Eng
bat:Woakes and Foakes ( Iif no Woakes, then will change soon after team announced)
bowl: Anderson and Leach

Catchers
Rohit and stokes

WK- Pant

Toss
Eng wins and bats first

Match result : India wins ( by an inning I believe)

These last two tests finish quite late here... around 03:00am I think?

So please excuse me when I post up the daily results a little later than usual.
I'll do it first thing in the morning here... which would be early night time in the UK.

* * * * *

Rohit, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Leach, Anderson

Kohli and Stokes

Foakes more dismissals

India win toss and bat

England win

* * * * *

Thanks everyone for getting your selections in. Nice work!

Pal Joey wrote:These last two tests finish quite late here... around 03:00am I think?

So please excuse me when I post up the daily results a little later than usual.
I'll do it first thing in the morning here... which would be early night time in the UK.

* * * * *

Rohit, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Leach, Anderson

Kohli and Stokes

Foakes more dismissals

India win toss and bat

England win

* * * * *

Thanks everyone for getting your selections in. Nice work!

India to win toss and bat with England win is either bold or hedging bets there PJ!

king_carlos wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:These last two tests finish quite late here... around 03:00am I think?

So please excuse me when I post up the daily results a little later than usual.
I'll do it first thing in the morning here... which would be early night time in the UK.

* * * * *

Rohit, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Leach, Anderson

Kohli and Stokes

Foakes more dismissals

India win toss and bat

England win

* * * * *

Thanks everyone for getting your selections in. Nice work!

India to win toss and bat with England win is either bold or hedging bets there PJ!

Bold maybe.  I have a feeling not everything will go to plan... or hoping there will be some twist in the plot none of us are (yet) aware of.

India - Pujara & Kohli / Sharma & Ashwin

England - Root & Bairstow (or Sibley) Anderson & Leach

2) Stokes and Gil

3) Foakes

4) England win toss and bat.

5) England to win.

Cheers Super.

We're all in then. Just awaiting the final team announcements.

Pal Joey wrote:Received from KP_fan Wed 24 Feb - 8:19

Hello PJ,
Trust all well with you. Its a tense test match , lot at stake for both teams

Here are my selections for T3

India
bat:Kohli and Gill
bowl:Ashwin and Sundar. ( If no Sundar then will change soon after we know the team )

Eng
bat:Woakes and Foakes ( Iif no Woakes, then will change soon after team announced)
bowl: Anderson and Leach

Catchers
Rohit and stokes

WK- Pant

Toss
Eng wins and bats first

Match result : India wins ( by an inning I believe)

No Woakes....no chance to Gamble then, I will take Root in his place then
thx PJ

KP_fan wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Received from KP_fan Wed 24 Feb - 8:19

Hello PJ,
Trust all well with you. Its a tense test match , lot at stake for both teams

Here are my selections for T3

India
bat:Kohli and Gill
bowl:Ashwin and Sundar. ( If no Sundar then will change soon after we know the team )

Eng
bat:Woakes and Foakes ( Iif no Woakes, then will change soon after team announced)
bowl: Anderson and Leach

Catchers
Rohit and stokes

WK- Pant

Toss
Eng wins and bats first

Match result : India wins ( by an inning I believe)

No Woakes....no chance to Gamble then, I will take Root in his place then
thx PJ

ok thanks KP

Looks like I am the only one with faith in Moeen and Woakes

guildfordbat wrote:Thanks again, PJ.

I've a bit to do in the morning. Buy the paper and cook myself bacon and eggs before settling down to the cricket. If time allow, I may try to change some of these selections before the toss but here goes for now -

Root, Pope, Bess, Leach (bowling replacements in order: Woakes and then Archer or the fast man most like him)
Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Axar Patel

Pope, Kohli

Pant

England bat

India.

H again Joey - to confirm, Archer comes in to make up my bowlers along with Leach. Otherwise, all as posted yesterday.

guildfordbat wrote:

guildfordbat wrote:Thanks again, PJ.

I've a bit to do in the morning. Buy the paper and cook myself bacon and eggs before settling down to the cricket. If time allow, I may try to change some of these selections before the toss but here goes for now -

Root, Pope, Bess, Leach (bowling replacements in order: Woakes and then Archer or the fast man most like him)
Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Axar Patel

Pope, Kohli

Pant

England bat

India.

H again Joey - to confirm, Archer comes in to make up my bowlers along with Leach. Otherwise, all as posted yesterday.

Yes Guildford - Archer and Leach

Just to confirm some of the other member's picks:

Duty - Broad in for Woakes
Tino - Root and Bairstow (Pope not used)
Soul - Root and Bairstow (Sibley not used)
Flipper - Archer and Anderson (Wood, Broad and Woakes not used)
Afro - Crawley (Stokes not used)
JD - Archer and Anderson (Woakes and Leach not used) and Ashwin (no Umesh)
Super - Bairstow (Sibley not used)

KP_fan and Guildford as per above.

Pal Joey wrote:Just to confirm some of the other member's picks:

Duty - Broad in for Woakes
Tino - Root and Bairstow (Pope not used)
Soul - Root and Bairstow (Sibley not used)
Flipper - Archer and Anderson (Wood, Broad and Woakes not used)
Afro - Crawley (Stokes not used)
JD - Archer and Anderson (Woakes and Leach not used) and Ashwin (no Umesh)
Super - Bairstow (Sibley not used)

KP_fan and Guildford as per above.

Points Table
3rd Test, Day 1:

2884 KP_Fan [200] *#
2822 Alfie [319]
2760 Gooseberry [240] *#
2656 Afro [261] *#
2618 Olly [121]
2604 Tino [151] *#
2582 Guildfordbat [374] *#
2548 James [153]
2508 Dolphin [141]
2430 Pal Joey [178]
2355 JDizzle [167] *#
2305 King Carlos [178] *#
2275 Soul Requiem [147]
2224 Superfly [197] *#
2165 Duty [76] *#

* denotes correct pick England win toss
# denotes correct pick England elected to bat

Average score: 2516 [194]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
KP_fan is still comfortably in the lead with Alfie only trailing by a mere 62 points.
Guildfordbat had a very productive day scoring 374 points and is now well within reach of Tino and Olly.
Both Alfie and Guildford have Axar Patel and collected a very handy 165 points for his 6-fer.

Cheers, Joey. A good day at the office. However, I suspect day 2 will be much harder work with both my India batsmen back in the hutch.

guildfordbat wrote:Cheers, Joey. A good day at the office. However, I suspect day 2 will be much harder work with both my India batsmen back in the hutch.

Fair point, Guildford.
However, you've still got Leach and Archer who might possibly do some damage.
Ashwin and Axar might play little cameos as well... you never know!

Wow! The closest I'll ever get to Jim Laker - with 19 of the 20 wickets so far! Would have been even better though had Leach got today's fivefer rather than Root. Guessing everyone has Root.

Anyone who didnt pick Root deserves to feel as silly as they must be doing right now.

Just did the Biscuit Break update, Goose.

Yes, we all have Root, so we all scored between 177 and 187 points for that session... except for a couple of outliers who made 132 and 144.

The order hasn't changed since last night, however Alfie has now narrowed the gap to KP_f to 56 points... so a gain of 6 points.

Pal Joey wrote:Just did the Biscuit Break update, Goose.

Yes, we all have Root, so we all scored between 177 and 187 points for that session... except for a couple of outliers who made 132 and 144.

The order hasn't changed since last night, however Alfie has now narrowed the gap to KP_f to 56 points... so a gain of 6 points.

Root's fivefer brings in 150 points plus 40 for Leach's 2 wickets, no?

guildfordbat wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Just did the Biscuit Break update, Goose.

Yes, we all have Root, so we all scored between 177 and 187 points for that session... except for a couple of outliers who made 132 and 144.

The order hasn't changed since last night, however Alfie has now narrowed the gap to KP_f to 56 points... so a gain of 6 points.

Root's fivefer brings in 150 points plus 40 for Leach's 2 wickets, no?

Yes, that's correct, Guildford. Have added the extra 30 points on for all of us. In my haste I had added only 20 on top of the 5-fer. Fixed now.

Alfie and you are raking up the points with Axar.

What a day! This is like a second job I tell you!

I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Soul Requiem wrote:I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Everyone has Root.
All but 3 (Duty, JD and Dolphin) have Leach.

Pal Joey wrote:

guildfordbat wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Just did the Biscuit Break update, Goose.

Yes, we all have Root, so we all scored between 177 and 187 points for that session... except for a couple of outliers who made 132 and 144.

The order hasn't changed since last night, however Alfie has now narrowed the gap to KP_f to 56 points... so a gain of 6 points.

Root's fivefer brings in 150 points plus 40 for Leach's 2 wickets, no?

Yes, that's correct, Guildford. Have added the extra 30 points on for all of us. In my haste I had added only 20 on top of the 5-fer. Fixed now.

Alfie and you are raking up the points with Axar.

What a day! This is like a second job I tell you!

Can you ask the producer to let you off for the day and do an episode where Sonny is away on holiday?

Pal Joey wrote:

Soul Requiem wrote:I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Everyone has Root.
All but 3 (Duty, JD and Dolphin) have Leach.

Its Patel that will have made the difference. I got as badly goosed as England by falling for the pink ball hype and going with a seamer for both sides.

Guildford and Alfie,

As you can imagine with 3 x 5-fers in the match (thus far) things have been moving very quickly indeed.

Yesterday I credited you both with only a 45-point bonus for Axar's 6-fer - it should have been 85 points according to the scoring system. I had confused it with the batting bonuses... 20+25=45 points.

Therefore, an extra 40 points has been added onto your scores. Of course you both also received the 50 point bonus for Axar's 2nd 5-fer... as well as the 50 point bonus for Root's magic 5-fer spell (which all of us also received).

Hope that clears things up and you're happy with the extra little windfall.  

Gooseberry wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:

Soul Requiem wrote:I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Everyone has Root.
All but 3 (Duty, JD and Dolphin) have Leach.

Its Patel that will have made the difference. I got as badly goosed as England by falling for the pink ball hype and going with a seamer for both sides.

Hi goose - at risk of coming over all KP-f, I did suspect that India would try to reduce the impact of swing by producing a spinner's track. I even had Bess originally as my second bowler alongside Leach. As you noted on the main thread, Jeetan Patel was of a different view.

guildfordbat wrote:

Gooseberry wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:

Soul Requiem wrote:I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Everyone has Root.
All but 3 (Duty, JD and Dolphin) have Leach.

Its Patel that will have made the difference. I got as badly goosed as England by falling for the pink ball hype and going with a seamer for both sides.

Hi goose - at risk of coming over all KP-f, I did suspect that India would try to reduce the impact of swing by producing a spinner's track. I even had Bess originally as my second bowler alongside Leach. As you noted on the main thread, Jeetan Patel was of a different view.

Yeah I'd heard the rumours and India picking 3 spinners the signs were there. As with England I just fell for the data.

Pal Joey wrote:

Soul Requiem wrote:I'm assuming everyone had Leach and Root?

Everyone has Root.
All but 3 (Duty, JD and Dolphin) have Leach.

Nailed it. At least India didn’t pick Umesh, or I would have had two seamers!

Axar doing well for me I see...won't help much though unless England bowl India out for 45.

Points Table
3rd Test, Day 2:

3367 KP_Fan [483] # *
3358 Alfie [536]
3224 Guildfordbat [642] # *
3135 Gooseberry [375]
3022 Olly [404] #
2972 Afro [316]
2964 James [416] #
2926 Tino [322]
2875 Dolphin [367] #
2792 Pal Joey [362]
2715 JDizzle [360] #
2666 Soul Requiem [391] #
2627 King Carlos [322]
2549 Superfly [325]
2372 Duty [207]

Average score: 2904 [389]

# India win = 75 points
* Pant most dismissals = 50 points
(Pant: 2 caught behinds; Foakes: 1 caught behind)

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average score


Notes:
KP_fan has maintained his lead but Alfie is now only trailing by 9 points.
A record scoring day for Guildford who scored 642 points and has shot up the ladder from 7th to 3rd.


My Special Team Scores after the 3rd Test are as follows: (using the 'special' formula)

England:
1st Test: 1429 - average player score 129.9
2nd Test: 922 - average player score 83.8
3rd Test: 482 - average player score 43.8
Total Score: 2833 - average player score 257.5

India:
1st Test: 1039 - average player score 94.5
2nd Test: 1330 - average player score 120.9
3rd Test: 781 - average player score 71.0
Total Score: 3150 - average player score 286.4


Top 6 Individual Player Scores:
First figure - Accumulative Test Score
Second figure in [brackets] - 3rd Test Score

681 Ashwin [157]
503 Root [136]
397 Axar [220]
396 Rohit [116]
384 Leach [92]
299 Pant [41]

Followed by: Kohli (247) Stokes (246), Pope (234), Pujara (191), Ishant (171) and Rahane (160).

Thanks for your participation everyone.
This Test really was very unusual and kept me on my toes for the last one and a bit nights.

Lets put it like this I survived the stupidity of last minute opting for Sundar in place of Axar

KP_fan wrote:Lets put it like this I survived the stupidity of last minute opting for Sundar in place of Axar

I thought that was very generous of you, KP_fan... tempting a possible takeover from Alfie on the leaderboard like that!
Still, you scored very well in this test and must be very happy with the win for India.

My gamble on Bairstow didn't quite pay off...

My gamble of picking four seamers may have also been somewhat wide of the mark.

Pal Joey wrote:

king_carlos wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:These last two tests finish quite late here... around 03:00am I think?

So please excuse me when I post up the daily results a little later than usual.
I'll do it first thing in the morning here... which would be early night time in the UK.

* * * * *

Rohit, Pujara, Ashwin, Bumrah
Root, Pope, Leach, Anderson

Kohli and Stokes

Foakes more dismissals

India win toss and bat

England win

* * * * *

Thanks everyone for getting your selections in. Nice work!

India to win toss and bat with England win is either bold or hedging bets there PJ!

Bold maybe.  I have a feeling not everything will go to plan... or hoping there will be some twist in the plot none of us are (yet) aware of.

Didn't pay off...

Duty281 wrote:My gamble of picking four seamers may have also been somewhat wide of the mark.

Are you an England selector , by any chance ?

Well done PJ in getting all this done so fast

I am amazed to be so close to KP_fan after picking the wrong toss , wrong winner , and wrong WK...heavily indebted to Axar I guess ! Actually I think I would be leading now if Kohli hadn't been charitable enough to give Sundar that token bowl at the rabbits to pick up a wicket...perhaps KP_fan sent him a text ?

alfie wrote:Well done PJ in getting all this done so fast

I am amazed to be so close to KP_fan after picking the wrong toss , wrong winner , and wrong WK...heavily indebted to Axar I guess !  Actually I think I would be leading now if Kohli hadn't been charitable enough to give Sundar that token bowl at the rabbits to pick up a wicket...perhaps KP_fan sent him a text ?

That last ball Anderson ct. Pant b Sundar was worth 70 points

I have a view that Sundar could have been almost as potent as Axar...as he too bowls fast ~100kph...with toppinners, skidders mixed with conventional off spin
Pity he didn't get to bowl

alfie wrote:Well done PJ in getting all this done so fast

I am amazed to be so close to KP_fan after picking the wrong toss , wrong winner , and wrong WK...heavily indebted to Axar I guess !  Actually I think I would be leading now if Kohli hadn't been charitable enough to give Sundar that token bowl at the rabbits to pick up a wicket...perhaps KP_fan sent him a text ?

Thanks Alfie.
Yes, considering all of the above you were only one wicket or a caught behind away from taking the lead. Well done anyway!

alfie wrote:

Duty281 wrote:My gamble of picking four seamers may have also been somewhat wide of the mark.

Are you an England selector , by any chance ?

Not quite sure how I convinced myself an England win was on the cards and consequently went for Foakes as the keeper! Both of us seduced by the ball nipping around under the lights like trent bridge on a gloomy day mantra I think.

alfie wrote:

Duty281 wrote:My gamble of picking four seamers may have also been somewhat wide of the mark.

Are you an England selector , by any chance ?

Goodness, you mean this isn't the England selectors' forum?!

Where on earth do I pitch my cunning plan of sending Woakes up in the next test as a pinch-hitting opener, and picking Root as a specialist bowler? All that batting lark has been adversely affecting his bowling for the past eight years, y'know.

Root, Foakes, Leach, Bess
Sharma, Kohli, Ashwin, Patel.

Kohli, Stokes

Foakes

India win toss, bat, win test, beat City to the title and kill Thanos.

Root, Stokes, Leach & Bess (Contemplated Foakes instead of Root and then Root instead of Bess)
Gill, Kohli, Ashwin and Yadav (Patel)

Rahane and Pope

Pant

England bat

India win