The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

by Guest Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:32 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Tommy Bowe photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be? appletini

by Portnoy Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:17 pm

Here's my controversial opinion.

The globe is on it's way on a hand cart. Global warming. And sport has it's place in in its contribution. The obvious example is F1. But even the measly RU has it's share of responsibility. Global sport is fun though.

I'll stay in touch on this point.

by Glas a du Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:17 pm

red_stag wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:do you not remember Fiji from the last RWC Stag? of course we'll be talking them up! I'm absolutely petrified about playing them. I don't even want to really contemplate Samoa, I don't think I could cope.

I do but that was the last World Cup dreamer. They won't have guys like Ratuvou, Delasau, Rauluni, Bai who were instrumental last time. They are leaving a back 3 of Caucau, Nalaga, Nacewa at home. They have a poor front row and the union were talking about pulling out of it.

Samoa are the challenge.

They had a rubbish scrum and line out in 2007. What did we do? Deliberate knock on's and peppering the touchline? No! we started playing 7's against them. Fantastic for the neutral but nobody in the Welsh camp came out of that well, not least Robin McBride, who is the only coach still there!

It was necessary though.The problem is that sort of sheet is necessary again!

by Glas a du Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:18 pm

Portnoy wrote:Here's my controversial opinion.

The globe is on it's way on a hand cart. Global warming. And sport has it's place in in its contribution. The obvious example is F1. But even the measly RU has it's share of responsibility. Global sport is fun though.

I'll stay in touch on this point.

So what's new?

by Portnoy Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:20 pm

by Cari Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:23 pm

Yeah we got it Portnoys. No one's biting here.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:23 pm

red_stag wrote:Question - If Wales/Ireland got to WC semi final and lost would it be seen as a success or failure.

Staggy, for either to make a semi should be seen as an achievement

For me, difficult to see beyond quarters that look like this:
NZ vs Scot/Arg
Eng vs Fra
Aus vs Wales
SA vs Ire

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:25 pm

I agree with general conscensus that it would be success. There will be those that will disagree I have no doubt.

Asbo - I also agree logically your quarter finals are most likely.

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:27 pm

I reckon Scotland can top their group.

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:29 pm

Luckless I see all 6 Naitons, 3 Nations, Island Teams and Argentina as being some way possible to qualify however unlikely some may be.

I see all 3 Nations teams as only ones I would consider to have guaranteed qualification.

by Thomond Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:34 pm

Those looking for info on Ireland's WC jersey,According to this there won't be an image out to 11th August. Although it is possible it will be leaked like the other shirts.

by Adam D Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:36 pm

Following on from the images posted in the kit section, the admin team has updated the rules of the site regarding pictures.

Please take the time to read them (also tells you how to!):
https://www.606v2.com/t7094-images-on-606v2

by Cari Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:39 pm

Is it just me or does anyone else giggle to themselves when they see the title "Your toughest hole.."? on the golf board Very Happy

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:41 pm

Thomond wrote:Those looking for info on Ireland's WC jersey,According to this there won't be an image out to 11th August. Although it is possible it will be leaked like the other shirts.

The AB's one will be out around then too.

Though it's be black, and collarless. With a silver fern on one breast, the WRC logo on the other, and an Adidas striped triangle in the middle. One sleeve will have a William Webb Ellis trophy on it, with "1987" underneath. Refer. the 2007 and 2003 jerseys ...

Tradition Smile

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:43 pm

Kiwi, but where did that tradition come from?! Whistle

by Thomond Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:45 pm

I'm going to test the spoiler thing

Spoiler:

by Cari Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:45 pm

Cari wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else giggle to themselves when they see the title "Your toughest hole.."? on the golf board

*sigh* it's just me then laughing

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:46 pm

Afternoon Cari, glad you got a lunch break today Smile

Stag - I don't care what players Fiji have missing or who they don't have from their last world cup. The memory is still there, we should have beaten them last time but didn't. The same thing could easily happen again this time.

I just need to prepare myself for the worst.

Please don't think that means I don't have belief in my team. I do. I just also know exactly how capable they are of shooting themselves in the foot.

by Adam D Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:47 pm

Thomond wrote:I'm going to test the spoiler thing

Spoiler:

you need to put the image url in the image code (use the icon that looks like the computer screen 16th in reply - 7th in quick reply).

Then put the Spoiler code around the image code!

Also - dont forget to include a label for what is in the spoiler.

by **Notch** Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:50 pm

Wales are right to be worried about being shocked by a Pacific Islands team. You've just got the wrong team. Fiji are weak now- Samoa on the other hand... well I'm glad we don't have Samoa!

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:52 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Kiwi, but where did that tradition come from?!

Sadly the other tradition is that the "away" shirt will be hideous. I can't remember the last time Adidas did an away shirt I was prepared to buy.

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:52 pm

shhh Notch, I've already said I'm not contemplating Samoa yet Wink

by **Notch** Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:53 pm

I'm really looking forward to that group by the way. It's got more genuinely mouth watering games than any other group. Wales will play it smart and negative this year, enough to easily see off Fiji. Samoa vs. Wales will be very tight and test your nerves Wink

by Thomond Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:54 pm

Success! It's just an image of Cork city's crest.

by Suspicious lurker Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:54 pm

Kiwi we've to get you a Leinster jersey for this season as well

by mickyt Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:56 pm

Afternoon all..

second day back from my holidays and it's not getting any easier being back.

I would say Samoa would be a tougher test right now. Fiji have been trying to bring anyone and every one in to their squad to get a strong team there.

in reality if they stick to their loyal players to the jersey they would be more settled and then just add a few players to it.

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:57 pm

Aye Notch, I can see for the neutral that it does look a very tasty group. I don't know why people think we're going to see off Fiji so easily. I know it's wasn't our first team but we drew the last time we played them. Fiji know they can beat us, and that can do a lot for a side.

The thing is with Wales I can see us losing against SA, Fiji and Saoma, but I can just as easily see us beating all three (SA being a bit of a push admitedly)

And I wish we didn't have to play negative rugby, I don't like it Sad

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:59 pm

But Dreamer thats like saying that Scarlets knocked out Munster from Heineken Cup in 2007 so I should be most worried about them this year rather than Northampton who Munster have knocked out of Europe twice in three seasons.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:00 pm

hughie1986 wrote:Kiwi we've to get you a Leinster jersey for this season as well

Hmmm, maybe the away strip, there's not so much blue in that. Now if they did a red or black aways strip ... or even green Wink

by **Notch** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:00 pm

Just testing; Johann Muller in full flight.

Spoiler:

Cool!

Ultimately, don't you feel Wales need to play the gameplan most likely to see off their opponents? Fiji are traditionally weak at set piece; turn them and test their lineout!

Actually Samoa have a good set piece, it's a bit of a cliche.

by Adam D Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:00 pm

Thomond wrote:Success! It's just an image of Cork city's crest.

I know what it is but the rules state that you need to make it clear whats within the spoiler tag to help people decide whether they should click on it.

No worries on this one though - just bear in mind for future.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:01 pm

A million Kiwi women have gone into mourning (the other million are already there since Dan Carter's engagement ...)

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:02 pm

Kiwireddevil wrote:A million Kiwi women have gone into mourning (the other million are already there since Dan Carter's engagement ...)

And Stuart Barnes!

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:02 pm

red_stag wrote:But Dreamer thats like saying that Scarlets knocked out Munster from Heineken Cup in 2007 so I should be most worried about them this year rather than Northampton who Munster have knocked out of Europe twice in three seasons.

Stag - where in my post did I say I was being rational? Wink

I can't help it, tis just how I feel!

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:05 pm

I dunno I'd expect Wales to win comfortably against Fiji with narrow win over Samoa and a loss to South Africa.

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:07 pm

Notch wrote:Just testing; Johann Muller in full flight.

Spoiler:

Cool!

Ultimately, don't you feel Wales need to play the gameplan most likely to see off their opponents? Fiji are traditionally weak at set piece; turn them and test their lineout!

Actually Samoa have a good set piece, it's a bit of a cliche.

Oh yeah Notch I know we need to play in a certain way to win, I'd just prefer it not to be in a negative way. It's not what I enjoy watching in rugby and not how I personally like to see the game played. But yeah, guess it can win you matches.

Stag - you might very well be right, but please allow me to panic, I hate, HATE, feeling confident going into a match. Just doesn't sit right with me.

by Glas a du Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Thomond wrote:I'm going to test the spoiler thing

Spoiler:

That's what you call a spoiler, spoilt my lunch anyway.

Only joking thumbsup

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:12 pm

We've run South Africa close the last few times we've played them. It would be great of we could beat them, but if we did I'd probably be more worried that we'd lose against Samoa or Fiji.

by Suspicious lurker Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:15 pm

Gibbo you've mail when you come in

by red_stag Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:26 pm

I wonder why it is that being under dog is becoming so sought after in rugby. I watch an interview with Mark Ella talking about the South Africans from years ago and he was talking his team up, we're gonna beat them, they lack pace out wide etc.

Nowadays thats just seen as giving ammunition to the enemy.

by RuggerRadge2611 Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:27 pm

luckless_pedestrian wrote:We've run South Africa close the last few times we've played them. It would be great of we could beat them, but if we did I'd probably be more worried that we'd lose against Samoa or Fiji.

I was there the last time Scotland played South Africa....... Very Happy

good times!

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:30 pm

Lucky, very true, altho you could argue that the closeness of the result has gone with location:
13 November 2010 Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 25 – 29: winner = South Africa
5 June 2010 Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 31 – 34: winner = South Africa
8 November 2008 Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 15 – 20: winner = South Africa
14 June 2008 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria 37 – 21: winner = South Africa
7 June 2008 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein 43 – 17: winner = South Africa
thumbsup

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:35 pm

That's true, Mr Asbo. Who knows how it'll pan out on neutral ground?

by **Notch** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:36 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:Oh yeah Notch I know we need to play in a certain way to win, I'd just prefer it not to be in a negative way. It's not what I enjoy watching in rugby and not how I personally like to see the game played. But yeah, guess it can win you matches.

Stag - you might very well be right, but please allow me to panic, I hate, HATE, feeling confident going into a match. Just doesn't sit right with me.

It's not that Wales shouldn't attack, they just shouldn't self-sabotage themselves by attacking all the time. They need to choose their moments. Lat time against Fiji it was just kamikaze rugby. It was kind of great to watch, I enjoyed it but it was strategically mental on the part of the Welsh coaches. If it makes you feel better, I could say I think you'll lose and crash out in the group phase? Wink

I don't, but sure if it makes you feel better...

This is the off-season. Sure you're meant to make grandiose predictions of greatness for your side before nervously back-peddling when those are actually put to the test! I'm going to say I think we can beat the Aussies and then be tearing my hair out with nerves before we face the USA come September. It is the way of things zen

This site is running really slowly for me today. Anyone else having problems?

by Adam D Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:37 pm

running fine for me - was running slow yesterday though for 10 minutes around this time.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:38 pm

Notch wrote:
This site is running really slowly for me today. Anyone else having problems?

Notch, no, that's just the smart internet reacting to your wild predictions randy

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:40 pm

It's okay for you, Notch - Ireland's last match was a resounding victory. It's easier to be optimistic in those circumstances!

by Guest Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:42 pm

Notch - I've never been able to big up Wales or make grandiose predictions of greatness, I just don't think I'm capable of doing that!

I understand why people do though, and enjoy watching the back peddling when the times of matches come nearer Wink

Stag - I wouldn't say building yourself is necessarily something that's used as amunition, it's just that I look at it as someone/ a team, setting themselves up for a VERY big fall. Don't see the need for it. And I think the underdog thing might just be very deeply ingrained in the Welsh mentality. We don't play well when we are favourites and I can't recall a time in recent years when we have.

by mickyt Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:43 pm

Notch, it has been running a bit slow on my Ipad the last 2 days to be honest. have to refresh a couple of times.

It's fine in work though.

by **Notch** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:43 pm

New Apple SelfCensor

Perfect for an internet user such as myself! The words do tend to come BEFORE the careful thought some times... 8)

Very odd. Every other site I use is loading normally but this one is periodically slow.

True lucky. The previous four matches were error-strewn messes, and yet the last match was good so we exercise our right to collective amnesia as far as the rest of the tournament goes thumbsup

by Suspicious lurker Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:10 am

Working fine in my phone notch

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