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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:56 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the Tommy Bowe photo on the bar. That's a banning offence

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Post by Mick(TEFC) Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:35 pm

Translation,hughie?
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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:40 pm

Kildare have been particularly poor by the sounds. Racking up a lot of wides again - they got 17 wides the week before last match. It must be boiling there too.

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Post by Mick(TEFC) Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:45 pm

Aus 17-10 France(ht),entertaining game considering the conditions
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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:49 pm

Dublin are beating kildare chef, 10 points to four
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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:52 pm

Oh chef, are we going to be able to see the Ireland v Scotland game when we are at yours??
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Post by robbo277 Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:54 pm

Notch wrote:
Rava wrote:
Notch wrote:See Ireland copped another heavy defeat in the U20s.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/23339.php

38-24! So the game against Scotland is the only one we conceded below 30 points. That is embarrassing.

Not a great tournament for them. I just hope the guys we are depending on for the start of the league can get some well earned rest and recharge the batteries.

To be honest, I'm incredibly disappointed and unhappy that Craig Gilroy was included for todays dead rubber game. He should have been withdrawn as soon as we were out of the tournament. This is a guy who is playing first team rugby every week and is going to continue doing so.

Would what the player wants factor into this decision making? If Gilroy wanted to stay part of the squad and play the game, would you still have withdrawn him?


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Post by Mick(TEFC) Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:56 pm

Probably not live,hughie,I doubt that they'll even show the French games-summer hols etc; 8) but it,ll probably be shown the next day at 3 in the morning,and there's always myptwop
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:58 pm

robbo277 wrote:
Notch wrote:
Rava wrote:
Notch wrote:See Ireland copped another heavy defeat in the U20s.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/23339.php

38-24! So the game against Scotland is the only one we conceded below 30 points. That is embarrassing.

Not a great tournament for them. I just hope the guys we are depending on for the start of the league can get some well earned rest and recharge the batteries.

To be honest, I'm incredibly disappointed and unhappy that Craig Gilroy was included for todays dead rubber game. He should have been withdrawn as soon as we were out of the tournament. This is a guy who is playing first team rugby every week and is going to continue doing so.

Would what the player wants factor into this decision making? If Gilroy wanted to stay part of the squad and play the game, would you still have withdrawn him?

On the whole, yeah. If a player is playing regular first team rugby in the Magners League I don't see the need for them to take part in age group rugby- they've already made it in the senior game.
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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:59 pm

Mick(TEFC) wrote:Probably not live,hughie,I doubt that they'll even show the French games-summer hols etc; 8) but it,ll probably be shown the next day at 3 in the morning,and there's always myptwop


Are you not going to get a big screen and a live feed set up chef?? Tut tut
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:00 pm

Notch wrote:
robbo277 wrote:
Notch wrote:
Rava wrote:
Notch wrote:See Ireland copped another heavy defeat in the U20s.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/23339.php

38-24! So the game against Scotland is the only one we conceded below 30 points. That is embarrassing.

Not a great tournament for them. I just hope the guys we are depending on for the start of the league can get some well earned rest and recharge the batteries.

To be honest, I'm incredibly disappointed and unhappy that Craig Gilroy was included for todays dead rubber game. He should have been withdrawn as soon as we were out of the tournament. This is a guy who is playing first team rugby every week and is going to continue doing so.

Would what the player wants factor into this decision making? If Gilroy wanted to stay part of the squad and play the game, would you still have withdrawn him?

On the whole, yeah. If a player is playing regular first team rugby in the Magners League I don't see the need for them to take part in age group rugby- they've already made it in the senior game.

This is a development competition after all. Gilroy has a big season ahead of him where he will probably start a LOT of games for Ulster. I feel that the provinces should take priority here. For guys like Annett, Jackson and Henderson it's a great competition but Gilroy doesn't need it.
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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:03 pm

Balls. The Dubs down to 14 players after O'Gara's sent off.

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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:11 pm

Bollix Dublin could loose this now, kildare have really come into this now
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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:12 pm

hughie1986 wrote:Bollix Dublin could loose this now, kildare have really come into this now
1-08 - 0-09

Have faith Hughie...they've got ages to go...ANYTHING can happen.

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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:20 pm

Bernard Brogan is been choked out of this game by the kildare full backs, two three lads around him Everytime he gets the ball

1-09 - 0-10 now thirteen to go
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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:31 pm

Dubs managing to keep that three point cushion

Three minutes to go

Kidare get a goal now and it'll be squeaky bum time


1-11 - 0-10


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Kildare score one point in it now

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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:33 pm

Feck! hang on Dubs come on FFS you've managed with 14 until now!!!

Sheeeet! It's all equal.

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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:34 pm

Brogan fouled....a freebie for Bernie...

YO! He scores!!!

THANK FOOOK! The Dubs just win it in the last minutes.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:35 pm

Afternoon all, hope everyone's having a lovely day (especially you Cari! cake Happy Birthday!)

Just got back to the house after a lovely family meal, so going to enjoy the sun up the garden for about an hour and a half before I have to catch the stupid train back to Cardiff.

Got no idea what these scores mean in the Dubs game, looks like you're just talking in code to me Smile

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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:36 pm

The Dubs have won by one point Dreamer. Nice day to come back to Cardiff it's very sunny and hot here. 8)

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:38 pm

ah they won it? that's awesome!

Yeah the train journey is actually really lovely when it's sunny, getting it from Llandeilo so will be racing through the countryside, twill be nice. Just don't fancy the prospect of work tomorrow Wink

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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:40 pm

Yeah I'm back in my own office tomorrow on my own as well as my colleague's off. I havent been able to check my emails either cause I was on a different system last week so I dread to think what's lurking in that.

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Post by Suspicious lurker Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:41 pm

That was a disgraceful call to give that free to Dublin, but a wins a win roll on the Leinster final
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Post by Cari Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:46 pm

I can't comment on that Hughie cause I couldn't see it and the commentators didn't say anything about it, although the Kildare fella they interviewed afterwards was complaining about it (not surprisingly). There have been some very controversial decisions by refs recently that have dramatically changed the fortunes of teams. still, no one can complain there's no drama in GAA!

Anyhoo, I'm off to watch Pobl Y Cwm. Smile

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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:57 pm

Talk about a chip on your shoulder-

http://thefrontrowunion.com/2011/06/schools-out/

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Post by Gibson Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:06 pm

MBTGOG wrote:Talk about a chip on your shoulder-

http://thefrontrowunion.com/2011/06/schools-out/

Ah Bless. Ulster are over-represented in the Irish squad and he comes out with this? Best stay quiet man. censored

England doing really well vs the BB's. Really holding their own here.
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:07 pm

MBTGOG wrote:Talk about a chip on your shoulder-

http://thefrontrowunion.com/2011/06/schools-out/

He makes a number of fair points. Until he gets onto O'Callaghan, D'Arcy and Fitzgerald. Certainly there is a problem that these players are above criticism in the Irish media (or at least the first two are) but ultimately he's mainly just wrong. He's right about Ross as well. He's a decent player, somewhat overhyped, but still the best we have.

The point is either you're brilliant or rudey poo when it comes to the Irish sporting media by and large. And yes, they are hugely condescending towards Ulster as they write for an audience that is mainly comprised of Leinster/Munster fans. They give them what they want to hear. There's no doubt if you listen to some of the pundits BBC NI have brought in they give Ulster fans what they want to hear the same as RTE or Setanta do for Leinster/Munster.

I think you have to have a thicker skin if you're an Ulster fan. You have to accept that until we actually win something we're going to be subjected to constant snide remarks.
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:09 pm

Gibson wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:Talk about a chip on your shoulder-

http://thefrontrowunion.com/2011/06/schools-out/

Ah Bless. Ulster are over-represented in the Irish squad

See? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:11 pm

Great score there by England!
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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:13 pm

Fantastic try by England.


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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:15 pm

Notch,

There probably have been some condescending things written about Ulster but I think a lot of Ulster fans read far too much into some comments.


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Post by mickyt Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:17 pm

Evening all. Sounds like I missed a good game in
The gaa today. I was picking up many a message from
Hughie and Mickado. Gibbo how's tricks?
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:18 pm

Yes. In all seriousness, why shouldn't we though?

I don't see the harm a siege mentality amongst our fans and players will do when it comes to taking on the other provinces or creating an atmosphere at Ravenhill.

We're the new Munster and I like it.
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Post by red_stag Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:18 pm

Notch, there was once an intergalactic Emperor whose advise Ulster could bear in mind.

"Your hate has made you powerful. Give into your anger and strike me down with all of your hatred", Emperor Palpatine 1983

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Seriously Ulster can just use it as motivating tools. Having a chip on your shoulder can be a weapon if used correctly.
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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:19 pm

England miss out on a great chance then on the subsequent scrum, get dominated by New Zealand at the tackle.


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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:21 pm

Fantastic try for Wade.


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Post by Thomond Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:21 pm

I wasn't sure but I think they might have shown Kado at half time. Dublin were always going to win that game and will continue on until the semis at least. They're a decent outfit.

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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:21 pm

red_stag wrote:Notch, there was once an intergalactic Emperor whose advise Ulster could bear in mind.

"Your hate has made you powerful. Give into your anger and strike me down with all of your hatred", Emperor Palpatine 1983*

Smile

Seriously Ulster can just use it as motivating tools. Having a chip on your shoulder can be a weapon if used correctly.

Exactly! I'm happy to stoke the flames of our bitterness. It's our dreams of proving everyone wrong that will propel us back to the top Smile

For the record, I think the five players we have in the RWC squad is a fair representation in the final 30 Wink

*Wasn't that in a galaxy far, far away a long time ago?
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:22 pm

And this U20 Final is turning into a great game.
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Post by red_stag Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:24 pm

Notch the 1980s was AGES back. You and me and Munsty weren' even born in 1983. Only REALLY old people would have been about then.
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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:24 pm

True that.
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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:26 pm

Still think New Zealand will come away with this in the end.

But England should be very encouraged because there are some fantastic young players in this side.


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Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:28 pm

red_stag wrote:Notch the 1980s was AGES back. You and me and Munsty weren' even born in 1983. Only REALLY old people would have been about then.

Like me. An old but wise man, unlike you young but imbecilic hooligans Whistle

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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:28 pm

I also think that... it's not really about Ulster players in the Ireland squad. Just the best. So those five, to be fair, are amongst our best 30 players.
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Post by Gibson Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:29 pm

laughing

Love ye kids - even if ye havent a clue... yet. Its been nice to watch ye grow up. Albeit slowly. zen

Come ON England! Really want them to beat the BB's here. Set a tone for the RWC.
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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:30 pm

I like how that guy gives out about Danny Barnes being the solution to Munster's problems at centre. I'm not totally sure how that is southern bias.

Notch,

I think that's what people need to remember. It's all Irish players, no provinces at this stage.


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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:34 pm

Brave decision to go for the corner here by England.


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Post by red_stag Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:34 pm

MBTGOG wrote:
Notch,

I think that's what people need to remember. It's all Irish players, no provinces at this stage.


Agree. Sadly from what I saw in the 6 Nations not sure that many do.
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Post by rodders Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:35 pm

Gibson wrote:
MBTGOG wrote:Talk about a chip on your shoulder-

http://thefrontrowunion.com/2011/06/schools-out/

Ah Bless. Ulster are over-represented in the Irish squad and he comes out with this? Best stay quiet man. censored


How exactly are Ulster over-represented?
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Post by MBTGOG Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:36 pm

Rodders,

I'm pretty sure he was joking.


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Post by Notch Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:37 pm

MBTGOG wrote:I like how that guy gives out about Danny Barnes being the solution to Munster's problems at centre. I'm not totally sure how that is southern bias.

To be fair, that was a bit odd. I don't really know what that was about. It was a good rant though. I mean, once you get started why stop? You've got to keep it going. I think the point of that column is that is just that. The FRU is a good site. Loads of info about schools, club and womens rugby as well as the male senior side.

It'll be all inter-provincial stuff at first when the final squad is announced, then when we get started everyone will forget about it and get behind the side. Then we will go out and everyone will blame Paddy Wallace. It is the way of things. zen
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