Premiership - 13th August 2011

[Guest]

First topic message reminder :

Today sees the return of the premiership! (about time, It's a nightmare during the summer with no footy)

Today's matches:

Blackburn v Wolves 15:00
Fulham v Aston Villa 15:00
Liverpool v Sunderland 15:00
Newcastle v Arsenal 17:30
QPR v Bolton 15:00
Wigan v Norwich 15:00

How do you see the games going today?
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[Guest]

De gea has done nothing to convince that he's worth what united paid for him...

Agree. Is he the second coming of Massimo Taibi?

[Guest]

David de ARGH at the moment.

[Gregers]

Or djemba djemba....

There are 10 year olds up and down the country who would be upset with not saving that in a Sunday league match. So he's not good against the long shot, the snap shot or the high ball...

[Guest]

Think I'm gonna wait until hes played more than one competitive game for the club before completeley writing him off

I truly believe he'll be among the best keepers in the world, although that could be a couple of seasons from now. I don't see anything else given the praise he's got from the likes of Casillas and Reina

[Gregers]

Difference for keepers between la liga and the premiership is massive.

Apart from Raina who else has been successful in both leagues?

[HitmanOwl]

Could have gotta world class keeper for what they paid.

Buffon would have been ideal.

[Thomond]

2-1 Utd. Reid OG after a cross from Ashley Young

[Gregers]

Lucky lucky united...

[Guest]

Very good bit of business that from Roy, bringing Shane Long in. Really impressive debut

The Reading manager was on TalkSport the other week saying he couldn't believe there were only Championship clubs in the hunt for him and no Premiership teams. Careful what you wish for eh

[Guest]

Lucky lucky united...

And again it begins. hahaha

[Gregers]

Haha exactly.

West Brom deserved a point today!

Young was great.

[Guest]

de Gea was nervous as hell but Man United never stop. It's not luck.

[Gregers]

It's always luck with united.... Lol

De #ohnoitstheball Gea could be a flop....although he missed his flop onto the ball today!

[Guest]

He's not quite Massimo Taibi yet. Just won the u21 champs, can't be that bad. Just needs to get used to the premiership.

Listening to 5live atm, the first Man United "fan" - a word I use loosely in this gentlemans case - On with the "we need a Schmeichel" bandwagon already.

[Guest]

So Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal all draw winnable games and Man Utd squeeze past West Brom.

Weak, very weak.

[Crimey]

As a Liverpool fan it makes me slightly pleased that none of the teams around us managed wins so far apart from United who are probably out of our reach anyway.

It's always dodgy when it comes to signing keepers, one who could have been amazing somewhere else struggles at another side, and I think a big thing is that he is too young, it will be hard for him to command a defence when they're all years older than him, I think Van Der Sar will have had that command.

[Guest]

It'll take time for a young goalkeeper to come and adjust to the league, I reckon we'll be praising him come Christmas.

A lot of draws on opening day lead to it feeling quite... I wouldn't say boring, but it lacked some kind of oomph. Hopefully push on next weekend with a win against Sunderland, both teams got well-deserved points this week and could both have new players by then as well.

[Thomond]

Forgot to say congrats to Longy on his goal for West Brom. Really disappointed we didn't have a sell on clause for him.

[Mat]

Gutted.

Ref was crap as usual against the big teams, linesman were even worse gave some diabolical decisions.Rooney is one hell of a player,Young is an absolute grade A ****.

Disappointed not to get a point,Long looked good though.De Gea seemed dodgy,we're not a physical side by any stretch of the imagination but we still roughed him up.When he came out for the 2nd half,compared to Foster he really is tiny.

[Guest]

Think this is the best place for it- This morning Steve Kean admits to drink driving

[Crimey]

Think this is the best place for it- This morning Steve Kean admits to drink driving

If he would now just admit he had been drink-managing it would explain why he is so crap!

[Guest]

It'll take time for a young goalkeeper to come and adjust to the league, I reckon we'll be praising him come Christmas.

If he gets that long to impress. Don't forget Taibi lasted about half a dozen games.

[braveheart101]

As a Liverpool fan it makes me slightly pleased that none of the teams around us managed wins so far apart from United who are probably out of our reach anyway.

It's always dodgy when it comes to signing keepers, one who could have been amazing somewhere else struggles at another side, and I think a big thing is that he is too young, it will be hard for him to command a defence when they're all years older than him, I think Van Der Sar will have had that command.

Why is it that fans of all Liverpool's rivals go on about why Dalglish paid 20 million for Henderson and 35 million for Carroll, both bought for their potential, but nobody seems to question why Ferguson spent 19 million on De Gea, a young and relatively inexperienced keeper, who was surely bought for the same reason.

[Crimey]

I suppose to be fair, De Gea has a bit more experience at a high level compared to Henderson and Carroll.

[Guest]

And because De Gea is new to the division after a good season and summer abroad. Whereas Henderson was good for about 6 weeks last season and looked awful during the summer for England.

[braveheart101]

Maybe he has if you class La Liga better than the EPL but he's still played less games than Henderson and Carroll

[Crimey]

But Atletico Madrid are a much better side than Newcastle and Sunderland.

[Guest]

Think Brave's talking about the standard of opposition he faced. I think Carroll will prove the best signing out of the three this season, with Henderson proving to be far the worst.

[Crimey]

I agree with you Churchill, I think Henderson will struggle this year, but hopefully he'll come good when he's got a bit more experience under his belt.

[AberdeenSteve]

Take a bow Sergio Aguero.

Not a bad way to introduce yourself to the PL. A goal and an assist within 3 minutes.

[The Galveston Giant]

He's going to be really good by the looks of it.

[westisbest]

Utd could have gone for Given.

Thankfully for us they didnt.

Had a good prem debut for us sat.

Hope he'll have a good career at the Villa.

[Crimey]

Given wasn't a long-term solution though and I think Fergie didn't want another Van Der Sar situation where he realised had he bought him 5 or more years earlier he wouldn't have had all his goal keeping problems. I have a feeling he was eager to get young goalkeeper who could be playing for 15 years at a high level.

-----------P GD PTS
1 Bolton 1 4 3
2 Man City 1 4 3
3 Man Utd 1 1 3
4 Wolves 1 1 3

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5 Liverpool 1 0 1

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6 Norwich 1 0 1
7 Sunderland 1 0 1
8 Wigan 1 0 1
9 Arsenal 1 0 1
10 Aston Villa 1 0 1
11 Chelsea 1 0 1
12 Fulham 1 0 1
13 Newcastle 1 0 1
14 Stoke 1 0 1
15 Everton 0 0 0
16 Tottenham 0 0 0
17 Blackburn 1 -1 0

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18 West Brom 1 -1 0
19 QPR 1 -4 0
20 Swansea 1 -4 0

Dreadful starts for two of the promoted sides.

[ncfc_Tooze]

6th not a bad start hopefully we can carry on as we started

[Guest]

Song given a 3 match ban for stomp on Joey Barton.

[Guest]

Song given a 3 match ban for stomp on Joey Barton.

He should be given an honorary knighthood for that.

[Guest]

Song given a 3 match ban for stomp on Joey Barton.

He should be given an honorary knighthood for that.

For committing a stupid red card offense that now see's him, as well as Gervinho, miss Arsenal's 3 next games. Considering that he probably knows there'll be no Cesc or Nasri and they have tough opposition. Yeah, brilliant.

[Guest]

Song given a 3 match ban for stomp on Joey Barton.

He should be given an honorary knighthood for that.

For committing a stupid red card offense that now see's him, as well as Gervinho, miss Arsenal's 3 next games. Considering that he probably knows there'll be no Cesc or Nasri and they have tough opposition. Yeah, brilliant.

Lighten up Churchy, lighten up.

[Guest]

Arsenal midfielder just posted this on Twitter (But in his native language): Tomorrow, Suarez, you're dead. You didnt let Ghana get into the semi.
Translated by an African football blog on Twitter.

Anyone thinking we'll have more outrage from the press and calls for footballers tweets to be censored?

[Fernando]

well that's can only be 1 of 2 people , alex song or emmanuel frimpong.

Luis Suarez is the 1 of the most hated men in Ghana so it's not surprising.

it's not like he's actually going to shoot him though so i don't get the big deal to be honest

[Guest]

Whoops, it was Frimpong. I know it's not an actual death threat, it just seems quite unprofessional. Can you imagine him saying in a prematch interview that Suarez was dead tomorrow?

[Fernando]

he's young and naive so he'll learn from it when he eventually gets done for it and all it's going to do is fire up suarez anyway

[Guest]

Like any of the Ghanians wouldn't have done what Suarez done!

It is unprofessional though yes.

[Guest]

Has anybody heard the Tevez/Arsenal rumors doing the rounds on the radio?

Can't see it myself.

[Fernando]

1) i doubt arsenal could afford him
2) i doubt he'd want a wage cut

it would be awesome if true but i can't see it

[Fernando]

it appears there could be some truth in the rumor apparently man city are offering 22m for nasri + tevez on loan with arsenal paying 100k and man city paying the other half

[Guest]

Wasn't that rumour started by Terry Christian as a wind up?

[Guest]

it appears there could be some truth in the rumor apparently man city are offering 22m for nasri + tevez on loan with arsenal paying 100k and man city paying the other half

Some agent, no idea what his name is, said on the radio earlier that Tevez would be more comfortable living nearer Heathrow airport!

[Fernando]

he likes to go back and forth between here and argentina so would suit him fine

[Guest]

he likes to go back and forth between here and argentina so would suit him fine

He is seriously taking the urine if he uses his home-sickness excuse as a reason to join Arsenal though Nando.

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