England vs India - third ODI

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So here we go again, England have won the toss and decided to bowl first, Cook feeling it isn't easy to defend a score here at the Oval. England make the one change, with Trott coming back into the side for Samit Patel, while India make two changes: Jadeja in for Tiwary to strengthen their bowling, and R.P. Singh for Vinay Kumar.

England team
AN Cook*, C Kieswetter†, IJL Trott, IR Bell, RS Bopara, BA Stokes, TT Bresnan, GP Swann, SCJ Broad, JM Anderson, JW Dernbach

India team
AM Rahane, PA Patel, R Dravid, V Kohli, SK Raina, MS Dhoni*†, RA Jadeja, R Ashwin, P Kumar, MM Patel, RP Singh

Surprised Aaron still not given a go...

oh run out.

sky must be well behind.

well seeing as sky are now only showing indians fans and on another indian love in and are 5 mins behind anyway.. waste of money.. it's off.

One stump to hit and on the turn. Just brilliant from Dhoni!

msp they are falling apart. very young side with a very poor ability to play odi's losing to another young side who are better at it.

yup and a pile of crap from a poor england side again.

trebellbobaggins wrote:oh run out.

sky must be well behind.

well seeing as sky are now only showing indians fans and on another indian love in and are 5 mins behind anyway.. waste of money.. it's off.

U sure u haven't paused it earlier and your sky+ box is behind?

well i didn't but mine does seem to be way behind.

it's wierd.

Big chance for Ravi.

Starting to not look good for England

Think I might stop contributing to these match threads, even if we were 400-0 off 30 overs it's still be manically depressing in here.

OK eng did a briliant job in losing this one. poor team , poor batting, poor captancy when in control. Just a bad day at the office from a team that struggle to cope in this form.

The young team need to learn and learn fast from India how to turn around a bad position.

oh and stokes.. ermm, why?

India will win this series 2-1 (as it'll be rained off next week in Cardiff). Flower needs to look for help in coaching this form and rethink his team.

Carrotdude wrote:Think I might stop contributing to these match threads, even if we were 400-0 off 30 overs it's still be manically depressing in here.

ok apologies but lets be honest 50-5 to this mess of an innings is not acceptable.

how can Vaughn say they can ever win the world cup if they can't beat an India that are pretty Poopie and there for the taking?

This India , an average side, is going to win this series sadly. So we must still be far far way from what we could and should be if we could translate test form into short forms.

england have now lost on dl if the rain gets heavy again.

Yep, it was poor to allow them to get as many as they did after the start we had. Our batting is weakened at the moment and is being shown up by some very good spin bowling from India. It's still winnable from here, not over a run a ball rate yet but Bres already in looks like too much to do. To say we'll lose the next match already is laughable.

Trebell, England will win. Trust me and chill

i'm just going by the fact that we have little behind the top few.

the first match was a warning we were poor and we're seeing it again now.

Moggy out should have forced KP back, the order is all wrong at the mo. Lose CK and Cook and you're stuffed.

agreed Bres in too early. Needs to be with 30 left.

I really hope that Bopara produces the type of innings that the selectors have been hoping he can and see England home.

liverbnz wrote:Trebell, England will win. Trust me and chill

I am so deeply scarred by the Athers era aren't I. Being worsened by Sky India constantly telling me it's all over.

I'm like a shaking wrecked war veteran

eirebilly wrote:I really hope that Bopara produces the type of innings that the selectors have been hoping he can and see England home.

Built himself a little reputation for doing just that at the 2007 WC.

Stokes looks like he'll be a useful number 7 in the future if he can sort his bowling out it would be ideal. I think a top 6 of Cook, CK, Bell, KP, Morgan, Taylor would be my choice going forward.

eirebilly wrote:I really hope that Bopara produces the type of innings that the selectors have been hoping he can and see England home.

doing his best to up the run rate and lose it on dl at the mo.

Can't get off strike here Bopara despite it being Raina bowling!

trebellbobaggins wrote:

liverbnz wrote:Trebell, England will win. Trust me and chill

I am so deeply scarred by the Athers era aren't I. Being worsened by Sky India constantly telling me it's all over.

I'm like a shaking wrecked war veteran

I think we've all been affected by the Athers era (unfair that he's associated with it really) but it's hard not to be positive about England. Winning mentality is hard to break, and England have it at the minute.

Not doing a lot to help himself in the eyes of his critics here is he?

Carrotdude wrote:Stokes looks like he'll be a useful number 7 in the future if he can sort his bowling out it would be ideal. I think a top 6 of Cook, CK, Bell, KP, Morgan, Taylor would be my choice going forward.

I do agree with those who say Taylor needs a look. Just Ireland was harsh.

Maybe Moggy being done should be the prompt to bring him in? The little man might do well.

liverbnz wrote:

I think we've all been affected by the Athers era (unfair that he's associated with it really) but it's hard not to be positive about England. Winning mentality is hard to break, and England have it at the minute.

True. It is harsh. he was a great player in a poor team.

Yeah i think for eng though this is a very messed up line-up and it's showing,

What worries me is we never seem able to put out our best ODI team and are never entirely sure what that team is.

I am of course glad we excel at real cricket above this.

Bopara single handedly dragging the RRR back up over 6.

Carrotdude wrote:Bopara single handedly dragging the RRR back up over 6.

yup, dire.

Alot is resting on Bresnan here. I know that the RRR isnt too high but he will have to take some risks if Bopara is only going to protect his wicket

That said, 4 for Bopara

come on ravi win it to make essex fans proud

still, eng always like to make it interesting and give value for money; that has to be said,

Can they ever gain the quality to be a killer team like Aussie (still are looking at their dominance again of late).

aren't the Indians wearing lovely cuddlecoats.. it's not even cold

Bopara really needs to learn to avoid fielders if all he's going to do is get singles.

Hey Ravi, how about some kind of attacking shot at some point this year please!?

Yep, like that!

oh god.. nohopara is so poor that the bloody bowler has to do the work.

what is he for?

he can't hit big, he can't bowl properly. why?

india still finding spin to slow it down.. very clever.

did conditions change as the pitch got old or was Swann poor today?

damn it's over


we've had fun toying with India , now they are toying with us.

some of their fans even bothered to stay to watch it.. lots gone already mind.

spinners did well... swann has me worried they've made him look a monkey today.

Big Bres misses a quicker straight one. 25 needed at pretty much run a ball. Gonna be tight!

tight tight tight.. never should have been though.

Flower needs a look at his line-up.

problem is he won't, next friday will be rained off and sunday will be the same team.

i see eng lost 8 overs and 3 overs of pp.. harsh. the pp is where India did well.

The 1st ever realistic chance for India's victory is fading.

nah not at all.

have you seen any big smashes from Eng?

Only ten was needed but now our tail are exposed.. something India never allowed to happen.

Bops gone, 10 from 13 now with Swann and Broad, what an exciting finish!

Gonna be close!

Ravi gone... after a very well played 40. Yes I'm congratulating him, but he should have seen this to the end

Need the tail to do the job for us now. Will be very close, Bopara played well.

10 from 13, England big favorits with Swann and Broad around.

England just 2 good hits away, the fact they bat deep helped today.

Well played Swanny

MOTM Jadeja by a country mile

India are full of zip and purpose. It's a very different India from that of the test series or the last over at Hampshire when they had taken a pounding.

but then well played Swannage.. beat an India that we certain they had the game.

can we dent their confidence.. can we finally stop their fans dancing like they've won it after every ball!! (no def not.. lol).

Good bottle at the end from Swanny and Broad!. Another England victory!

Well played England. Looks like England will win this series as well now as the remaining matches will surely be affected by the weather.

Credit to India for putting up a really good fight though.