Scotland 15 Georgia 6

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Scotland: R Lamont; M Evans, N De Luca, G Morrison, S Lamont; D Parks, R Lawson (capt); A Jacobsen, R Ford, E Murray, N Hines, J Hamilton, A Strokosch, R Rennie, K Brown.

Replacements: D Hall, G Cross, A Dickinson, R Gray, R Vernon, C Cusiter, C Paterson.

Late change with Scott Lawson pulling out and Ross Ford coming in - definintely adds to the bulk of the pack. Unfortunately means Dougie Hall will come on at some point though.

I'm off work today so can watch!

Come on Scotland!!!!!!!!!!!

Georgia clear their lines well

What's the score please?

9-3

9-3 Scotland

This is a RWC. Clancy reffing it like like a park game. just to keep the flow.

May prove costly for one side.

Come on Dan we need this....

Euge, Hamilton, and the backrow have all done very well for me

Paterson coming on. If Parks nails this, one more penalty/drop should be enough to confirm the win. Were never going to get the bonus win.

12-3 Scotland

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Dan! 12-3, breathing space!

Can't believe he's bringin rory off and leaving parks on.

No tries yet? Bit ominous for the rest of the tournament, no?

Penalty Georgia! From the restart

12-6

12-6

Squeeky bum time again

Boyne wrote:No tries yet? Bit ominous for the rest of the tournament, no?

No more so than the 4 tries against Romania

15-6 9 points ahead again

15 - 6


And breathe...

Ritchie Gray is a class act.


And suddenly Clancy is playing the laws.

Ball comes off the face; knock on? Bad call. Scotland dominant in the scrums.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Boyne wrote:No tries yet? Bit ominous for the rest of the tournament, no?

No more so than the 4 tries against Romania

Yeah, Georgia seem to be a much bigger task. Still reckon you'll pull away though.

mckay1402 wrote:Can't believe he's bringin rory off and leaving parks on.

says it all really, that the most limited player in scottish rugby history is seen as a vital cog in the team

Final score - Scotland 15 - Georgia 6

Well a wins a win!

Well done on the win! Sounds like you can take some real positives from the scrum going forward in this group

Wish I'd got my 6 point gap for SG though

Tight win, but I'll take it. Scrum showed up really well to nullify supposed Georgian advantage. Loads of handling errors, but solid Georgian defence - this was their big one at the world cup, remember, so they'll be gutted

Scotland 2 from 2.

Not pretty, but job done so far.

RDW_Scotland wrote:Final score - Scotland 15 - Georgia 6

Well a wins a win!

And lets hope that this try- less performance doesn't haunt you and get thrown in your face for 4 years like it did Ireland.

Well done Scotland!!!!

Dire game for the neutral. Can't see Scotland coping with either the Argentinian or England packs. Will be interesting to see if that scrum dominance remains against the two though, very impressive. And with Richie Gray, you may also have a dominant set piece against them both. At the breakdown though, not a chance, sadly. They'll be too strong, and both teams can score tries. Needs to be a monumental effort to get out of the group now methinks...

dear god that was awful. Don't think Argentina or England will be feeling too threatened by that performance

mckay1402 wrote:dear god that was awful. Don't think Argentina or England will be feeling too threatened by that performance

especially as the Georgian kit was so similar to the English kit, I thought the Scots should've done far better than that

My summary:

Massive effort from the forwards. They really stepped up to the plate and even dominated their scrum. My MOTM was either Chunk or Euge.

Backs were poor though - good in defence but too many handling errors. Couple of good breaks though.

Player ratings:

15 Lamont - 7
Good line breaks

14 Evans - 6
Didnt get much chance to shine

13 De Luca - 6
Strong in defence

12 - Morrison - 5
A few handling errors and slows the backline down so much

11 Lamont - 6

Strong running but a few mistakes

10 Parks - 6
Real mixed bag, sometimes quality and sometimes a compete joke

9 - Lawson - 6
Solid if unspectacular

1 Chunk - 9
Absolutely dominated in the scrum and loose. heroic!

2 Ford - 7
Strong in the scrum and lineout

3 Murray - 9
Please please please play on Sundays!!

4 Hines- 6
Quiet game

5 Hamilton - 7
Good in the lineout

6 Strokosh - 5
Poor in defence when we needing him to dominate

7 Rennie - 7
Barclay might struggle to get back in the team at this rate

8 Brown - 8
Great performance at 8

So a win is a win - happy with that!

miaow wrote:Dire game for the neutral. Can't see Scotland coping with either the Argentinian or England packs. Will be interesting to see if that scrum dominance remains against the two though, very impressive. And with Richie Gray, you may also have a dominant set piece against them both. At the breakdown though, not a chance, sadly. They'll be too strong, and both teams can score tries. Needs to be a monumental effort to get out of the group now methinks...

Don't watch a lot of rugby do you, or at least if you do I guess you failed to watch Scotland's last game against England at Twickenham where England were soundly beaten at the breakdown all game long

Sounds like it was a tense match. I'll have a wee watch when I get home.

Don't think Argentina or England will be feeling too threatened by that performance

Hmm. England were sufficiently bad I don't think we can take anything for granted. At present I'd feel threatened by a small poodle.

I expect us to be better next game, but there are no guarantees. If we play as badly again Scotland know how to beat us.

Its a 2nd team out for Scotland against the next best team in Europe so its not all bad.
We would have run away with it had it not been for the bad handling errors which dominated the game... Georgia were camped in their 22 for much of the match.

Steve Thompson said his match in 03 against Georgia was the most physical of his career so that really says something. I think the boys did ok considering their 1st team got dominated by a lesser forward pack on the weekend.

The team on a whole will need to up their game though to beat Argentina. We have the players to do it but they need to up the intensity by quite a margin. For Argentina it will be a must win game, we still know we can go to the ENG match with a chance of qualifying if we beat them. The pressure for both sides will be massive.

Don't knock yourself down lads, these teams are nightmares to play against, thy are all strong physical playesrs who's fitness levels have been upped considerably from last RWC and their derences are hard to crack.

I'm thinking England will struggle as well - especially if we keep getting slow ball from the breakdown.

Scotland have to play Jackson at 10 for England and Argentina, neither will be beaten without tries you feel and Scotland will not score tries with Parks at 10.

2 games 9 points and now a rest and no injuries. I'll take that but Desperate Dan makes you clench a bit !

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
Don't watch a lot of rugby do you, or at least if you do I guess you failed to watch Scotland's last game against England at Twickenham where England were soundly beaten at the breakdown all game long

Hmmm...not so sure about that. You were still outmuscled for large parts of the game, and didn't really start dominating until the last quarter. And don't be patronising. That's just the mark of the frustrated man, often one who is losing an argument, and I wasn't even arguing with you.

You will be beaten up up front, because England and Argentina play a far more intense and physical game in the forwards, and relish it. Argentina especially. Richie Gray in the lineout will be paramount, and perhaps with Parks' tactical kicking, you have a gameplan on which to live off the other teams' mistakes, because, for the last two years, Scotland have produced feck all in almost every game.

Artful_Dodger wrote:Scotland have to play Jackson at 10 for England and Argentina, neither will be beaten without tries you feel and Scotland will not score tries with Parks at 10.

Dodge, totally agree - Jackson is far from the finished article, but surely he has to get the nod?

Think that miaow guy is a Cat !

That was of course Pu@@y !

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Think that miaow guy is a Cat !

Awww yoouuu...

Take it you weren't on the old 606 then...

21st....did you really have to clarify that?!

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miaow

we may not be the best attacking team but in the last 2 years the team which have done 'feck all' has beaten both SA & AUS.. the only side in the NH to do so.

I would take that given the limited number of quality players we produce.

Also remember we went down to Argentina last year and won both tests... something very few teams do. Argentina may have performed well against ENG but otherwise they have been poor and I'd fancy our chances IMO.

fa0019 wrote:miaow

we may not be the best attacking team but in the last 2 years the team which have done 'feck all' has beaten both SA & AUS.. the only side in the NH to do so.

I would take that given the limited number of quality players we produce.

Also remember we went down to Argentina last year and won both tests... something very few teams do. Argentina may have performed well against ENG but otherwise they have been poor and I'd fancy our chances IMO.

+1

We may not be setting the heather on fire thses days but we do seem to be able to produce some very good results. Consistancy and confidence is the key for Scotland. We have a reasonably talented team of players and with some wins under our belts and confidence growing I hope we can beat Argentina the same way we did in Argentina last year.

Sounds like that was a tight one! I'm surprised anyone expected any differently as the Georgians are big, tough hombres and it was a tough ask to play them and Romania with a 4 day turn around.

I'd say it's job done and Scotland can prepare for the two big games that will define their WC.

The lack of a bonus point could prove crucial but overall Scotland should be happy to get two wins under their belt and get a couple of banana skins out of the way.

I'm not dismissing any of those results, which have been great. But really, I think Scotland play a limited game not out of design, but because, as evidenced today when they did try to play a bit, nothing happens with it. This isn't helped by the muppet at 10.

England and Argentina play the tight game because it's the game they know best, and the game they excel at. England can also counter with Foden, Ashton and Armitage, and Argentina can create a little magic from Contepomi. The only positive may be Arg no longer have a front line kicker, and may not convert pressure into points; something Parks should capitalise on if Scotland are to win.

You're obviously more optimistic that I. But if you're basing it on two soggy AI games nearly a year and two years ago respectively, and a summer tour, that's a bit shakey mate. Looking at the last six months, I've seen nothing to suggest Scotland will go into either game as favourite. Might be able to get the result against Arg, but not against England, sadly.

miaow wrote:I'm not dismissing any of those results, which have been great. But really, I think Scotland play a limited game not out of design, but because, as evidenced today when they did try to play a bit, nothing happens with it. This isn't helped by the muppet at 10.

England and Argentina play the tight game because it's the game they know best, and the game they excel at. England can also counter with Foden, Ashton and Armitage, and Argentina can create a little magic from Contepomi. The only positive may be Arg no longer have a front line kicker, and may not convert pressure into points; something Parks should capitalise on if Scotland are to win.

You're obviously more optimistic that I. But if you're basing it on two soggy AI games nearly a year and two years ago respectively, and a summer tour, that's a bit shakey mate. Looking at the last six months, I've seen nothing to suggest Scotland will go into either game as favourite. Might be able to get the result against Arg, but not against England, sadly.

The bit in Bold is the only part I agree with.

Georgia and Romania I reckon will give Argentina and England a fright too. I think they were much strener opposition than most of us expected. I seriously doubt anyone in this group will be getting 2 bonus point wins.

England are hardly invincible, they were very unconvincing against Ireland and Wales took their Scalp too. I have had this conversation with a lot of posters on here and I will stand by my comments, there is very little between any of the teams in the northern hemisphere.

Argentina will be a tough game for Scotland too I have no doubt and Scotland almost never go into rugby games as "favourites" that tag does not suit us well and normally forces us to choke uncontrollably.

I have not seen the Georgia game yet but from what I gather our forwards were excellent in dismantling Georgia's main attacking weapon and from what I hear the match was played in a quagmire with the ball like a bar of soap. Tough conditions to play a running free game too.

A win is a win .... Well done Scotland.

England have a winning mentality. You always see it come to the fore at world cups. It also means now that England have two tests up front (no one was thinking Romania and Georgia would be easy, and it's stupid to think you could just turn up and claim the BP) to work their pack into a mentality of dominance.

I'm not going to say anymore about it in fear of coming across as anti-Scottish (God knows I'm actually defending England!), but I really cannot see anything other than an England win, and England topping the group.

You're making too much of the conditions. Lots of knock ons and missed passes came from either no one on the shoulder of the breaking runner, meaning he got smashed as he was looking around, or the forwards were all in a clueless bunch in the backline, cluttering the midfield and receiving the ball with no purpose or direction, casuing them to throw pointless hospital passes that ended in knock ons.

If I'm going to be getting up at 3a.m. to watch these guys play, they could at least muster a less soporific game.