County Ins and outs

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I have created this thread, in case of transfers between the different counties..If you hear of a deal being made, we can write it here, and see how activity there is between now and the start of the season

Aidan11 wrote:Liam Plunkett signs on at Yorkshire for 3 years.

Not sure what to make of that. Good county bowler on his day although he needs to get his act together. Maybe working with Gillispie will do the trick.

liverbnz wrote:

Aidan11 wrote:Liam Plunkett signs on at Yorkshire for 3 years.

Not sure what to make of that. Good county bowler on his day although he needs to get his act together. Maybe working with Gillispie will do the trick.

Agreed.

I'm surprised that Yorks were prepared to offer him a contract for as long as 3 years. Given his reputation and fluctuating form, there's certainly some risk involved.

guildfordbat wrote:

liverbnz wrote:

Aidan11 wrote:Liam Plunkett signs on at Yorkshire for 3 years.

Not sure what to make of that. Good county bowler on his day although he needs to get his act together. Maybe working with Gillispie will do the trick.

Agreed.

I'm surprised that Yorks were prepared to offer him a contract for as long as 3 years. Given his reputation and fluctuating form, there's certainly some risk involved.

I think a change of county will do him good. He's been out of favour at Durham and the drink driving conviction - the second he's had - has done him no favours. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes 40 wickets+ next season.

He seems to have been around for some while but is still under 30. Career has stalled so a good move to change counties. He's probably fortunate to get a three year deal in these difficult times.....

Tempted to wonder, with his drinking record, why Surrey didn't put in a higher bid...

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:He seems to have been around for some while but is still under 30. Career has stalled so a good move to change counties. He's probably fortunate to get a three year deal in these difficult times.....

Tempted to wonder, with his drinking record, why Surrey didn't put in a higher bid...

Too far to go by bicycle

Surprisingly Plunkett's last appearance in an England shirt was last February. Seems a lot longer than that.

He was briefly (and inexplicably) called in for that endless ODI series between the Ashes and the World Cup, when most of the regular bowlers were resting. Did nothing of note and he should now be nowhere near international recognition.

At Yorks seam-bowling is an area of concern, so he has a chance. Sidebottom and Bresnan will obviously play when available so I guess its a case of competing with the likes of Patterson, Ashraf and Pyrah.

At Durham you feel they want to move on from Harmison and Plunkett. The first choice attack these days is very much selected from Onions, Claydon, Thorp, Harrison and Rushworth. With Collingwood and Stokes chipping in too its difficult to see how the old-guard would get in.

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:

Tempted to wonder, with his drinking record, why Surrey didn't put in a higher bid...

Shelsey93 wrote:

At Durham you feel they want to move on from Harmison and Plunkett. The first choice attack these days is very much selected from Onions, Claydon, Thorp, Harrison and Rushworth. With Collingwood and Stokes chipping in too its difficult to see how the old-guard would get in.

No chance of Harmison going. He's been awarded his benefit for 2013. Rushworth has been a revelation this season. Done very well for the club. Jamie Harrison is a find for the future but looks injury prone. Mark Wood is another young quick who shows a lot of promise. Thorp continues to bowl through brick walls if required. Claydon hasn't had the best of seasons but is still in the clubs plans. Onions needs no introduction. The only question mark will be if Blackwell is still at the club next season. Dropped for "fitness reasons" but I think everyone knows by now what the real reason was. The club have said they want Blackie here next season but wont stand in his way if he wants to join another county. He still has a couple of years left on his contract.

Aidan11 wrote: The only question mark will be if Blackwell is still at the club next season. Dropped for "fitness reasons" but I think everyone knows by now what the real reason was. The club have said they want Blackie here next season but wont stand in his way if he wants to join another county. He still has a couple of years left on his contract.

Perhaps Jimmy Ormond could direct him to the nearest weight watchers club...

ajmal shazad rumoured to be going to notts...

ironic that he left a div2 club to join a div1 club, only then for them to be relegated and become a div 1 club!

Interesting. I wonder if he didn't fancy Lancs in the end or Lancs didn't fancy him.

Lancs need to get some quicks in now then, if they might lose Shahzad and Mahmood. That would leave them with Chapple (injury-prone), Hogg and Newby (and Jimmy Anderson..)

Chapple will be 39 before the start of next season, which is a fair age for a quickish bowling all rounder...

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Re: County Ins and outs
by LOVERBOY on Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:47 pm

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Steven Crook who 's done well at Middlesex may be considering a move back to Northants,and the offer of a two-year deal,may persuade 'The Middle' to release him,considering the aquisition of Harris
Another ex-Middlesex player Robbie Williams could well be offered a deal at Leicestershire..

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Both these deals have now be completed

Corey Collymore has been given a further one year contract with Middlesex,where it is expected he'll continue working the younger bowlers in a mentoring role.

Collymore cant have long left in the game now surely?

Pace dwindling with every passing season, and to be honest he hasnt been that impressive for the past 2,3 seasons IMO.

He's certainly not first choice now that Middx have Finn, Roland-Jones, Harris and Murtagh.

Can't see Finn playing much for middx this season though... the rumour is Collymore's a good guy to have around the younger guys.

I presume Murtagh might be lost to Ireland now and again as well. Add to that, Harris missed a fair bit of last season with injury.

Collymore certainly won't be playing when all are available but he's unlikely to let anyone down when called upon. I accept CF's point that his pace is dwindling and he's no longer a massive wicket taker but his match stats generally seemed pretty tidy and economical when I saw them last season. All in all, a one year deal seems good business for all parties.

Yorkshire being roasted against UVA NEXT in the CL UVA 94/2 after 12.

Some superb fielding from Yorkshire and in particular from Miller, and are right back in it now after a few quick wkts. UVA 125/6 after 17.4.

Well done Yorkshire, beating UVA Next of Sri Lanka in CL qualifying round.

UVA Next 150/7 - Yorkshire 151/5 . Miller having retired hurt after a nasty top edge into his face coming back to win the game for Yorkshire. Top player.

not sure why this goes in the ins and outs thread..

A paradox indeed.

To get back on topic,Ajmal Shahzad's move to Nottinghamshire rather than to Lancashire on a three year deal comes as a bit of a surprise,however the word is that the Lankies failed to match the Notts.offer in terms of salary and length of deal.
We've yet to see the best of him!

also the fact that notts are div1 and play at trent bridge would have been a bif factor in the decisiion!

Surrey have signed Lancs' slow left arm bowler Gary Keedy from Lancs on a 2 year contract.

Time will show whether this is a good signing but it's certainly a necessary one in view of a combination of factors. Surrey's slow bowling options - which have been a key component of their one day game - have been severely reduced through the losses of Rory Hamilton-Brown, Matt Spriegel and Murali Kartik. In addition, Zafar Ansari and Freddie van den Bergh won't join up with the Club until after their university exams circa early June. That would have left just Gareth Batty as the slow bowler for the opening couple of months of 2013.

Keedy has been highly successful in the English county game since the mid 1990s, taking more than 800 wickets in all competitions. However, he lost his place in the Lancs side last season and took only seven CC wickets at 57 apiece. He'll be thirty-eight next month; that's probably not a great problem for a slow bowler but it still remains to be seen whether his fortunes can be revived.

As an aside, it seems Kartik is being understandably sacrificed in an attempt to bring in an overseas batsman. Surrey still cling to hopes of signing Graeme Smith on some sort of deal and negotiations apparently continue.

very suprised by this deal to be honest, you would say this would take Keedy to the end of his career!

Surrey are looking to further reduce their expenditure by limiting the number of sponsored vehicles available to contracted playing staff,and asking them to use their free bus passes instead

Very shocked by Keedy leaving Lancashire at the age of 37 i would of thought he would 100% see the rest of his playing days out there.

Major signing for Surrey though. I expect them to have a sucessfull campaign next season.

Not sure how good a signing Keedy is for Surrey.

Early on in the season I expect them to play one spinner, and that would surely be Batty (after his success of last year). Later on when they play two, and in one-day cricket, they'll have the services of Ansari. Therefore, Keedy would seem to me to have little more chance of playing FC cricket regularly than at Lancs (where he is playing regularly in one-dayers, but Kerrigan has emerged in the Championship).

Shelsey93 wrote:Not sure how good a signing Keedy is for Surrey.

Early on in the season I expect them to play one spinner, and that would surely be Batty (after his success of last year). Later on when they play two, and in one-day cricket, they'll have the services of Ansari. Therefore, Keedy would seem to me to have little more chance of playing FC cricket regularly than at Lancs (where he is playing regularly in one-dayers, but Kerrigan has emerged in the Championship).

Shelsey - Adams has said today that he plans to play both Batty and Keedy in all eight home CC matches next season (spinners' wickets already in preparation) and that he expects they'll both play in half of the away matches.

Ansari appears to be regarded as an all rounder in one day formats but very much a batsman in the CC.

Like you, Shelsey, I have some doubts as to how well this will all work in practice but there is some logic on paper. It gives an experienced extra slow bowling option - particularly important for taking 20 CC match wickets and for the one dayers where we've been heavily dependent on slowies - and still allows us to try and sign an overseas batsman. However, is he good enough? Yes , on the evidence of his career, but no, based on last season.

Perhaps Adams would like to tell us the make-up of the rest of the team for all Surrey's championship matches in 2013,as he has already settled on the bowling attack it seems.
Batty and Keedy to play in 12 matches ,I think not.

Scotty Styris back at Hove for T20 2013 !!!

Buzzing for that. Was a major player in our trip to finals day. Including a record breaking innings at hove against Gloucestershire in the quarter finals. One of his many Sixes nearly took my head off!

Welcome home Scotty!

Murray Goodwin signs for Glamorgan.

Yep good signing for Glamorgan

Murray had an awful season in the county Championship last season. But was a very key player in the T20 and had some outstanding innings.

Sussex legend all the best to him at Glamorgan, hopefully he can see out his career there.

Also Ed Joyce named new Sussex captain today.

A bit surprised to see Goodwin heading down to Wales, but should be a good move from the clubs point of view.

Murali Kartik has been a major county success for the last few seasons, and I am surprised Surrey has given up on him and gone for Keedy.
What is this thing with Graeme Smith? Why should he leave SA cricket for Surrey at this stage of his career? He may not be captaining for many more years, but I don't think he has an age where international retirement is very close. How is the South African schedule for next summer?
I am sure he'll be back in the IPL soon if there are no major injury concerns or international scheduling issues, so Surrey would miss out on his service in the start of the season.

Like i said before, Graeme Smith has openly turned down the move to surrey!

msp83 wrote:Murali Kartik has been a major county success for the last few seasons, and I am surprised Surrey has given up on him and gone for Keedy.
What is this thing with Graeme Smith? Why should he leave SA cricket for Surrey at this stage of his career? He may not be captaining for many more years, but I don't think he has an age where international retirement is very close. How is the South African schedule for next summer?
I am sure he'll be back in the IPL soon if there are no major injury concerns or international scheduling issues, so Surrey would miss out on his service in the start of the season.

Surrey are desperately short of batsmen. Five of their top six from the opening day of the 2012 season are no longer with the Club. Others have moved on or will not be available in the opening weeks of next season. This is the background to Kartik being effectively sacrificed in order that an overseas batsman can be signed.

It may not work. For one thing, is Keedy still good enough? However, I do understand the logic behind it.

I've covered the possibility of still signing Smith on the ''Surrey news/articles'' thread. I suspect there are certainly significant issues to be resolved. However, it's not dead in the water as I write, based on a members' forum last night.

Also stemming from the same forum, I've - unusually for me - put in a good word for Pietersen on the ''Cut the nose'' thread.

guildfordbat wrote:

msp83 wrote:Murali Kartik has been a major county success for the last few seasons, and I am surprised Surrey has given up on him and gone for Keedy.
What is this thing with Graeme Smith? Why should he leave SA cricket for Surrey at this stage of his career? He may not be captaining for many more years, but I don't think he has an age where international retirement is very close. How is the South African schedule for next summer?
I am sure he'll be back in the IPL soon if there are no major injury concerns or international scheduling issues, so Surrey would miss out on his service in the start of the season.

Surrey are desperately short of batsmen. Five of their top six from the opening day of the 2012 season are no longer with the Club. Others have moved on or will not be available in the opening weeks of next season. This is the background to Kartik being effectively sacrificed in order that an overseas batsman can be signed.

It may not work. For one thing, is Keedy still good enough? However, I do understand the logic behind it.

I've covered the possibility of still signing Smith on the ''Surrey news/articles'' thread. I suspect there are certainly significant issues to be resolved. However, it's not dead in the water as I write, based on a members' forum last night.

Also stemming from the same forum, I've - unusually for me - put in a good word for Pietersen on the ''Cut the nose'' thread.

Saw both comments guildford.
Interesting that Surrey are still hopeful of a deal with Smith. I do have my doubts though, and unless they really manage a quality overseas signing, missingout on Kartik may not be a very smart move.
And terrific to see you standing up for the other Surrey lad at last!!!.

msp83 wrote:
Interesting that Surrey are still hopeful of a deal with Smith. I do have my doubts though, and unless they really manage a quality overseas signing, missingout on Kartik may not be a very smart move.
And terrific to see you standing up for the other Surrey lad at last!!!.

Msp - as you suggest, I accept it could all go horribly wrong. Releasing Kartik would look utterly daft in the worst case scenario - ie we fail to sign Smith or any meaningful overseas batsman and Keedy then flops!

Not sure I was so much standing up for Pietersen as simply passing on some news. We are all merely messengers for our game.

guildfordbat wrote:

msp83 wrote:
Interesting that Surrey are still hopeful of a deal with Smith. I do have my doubts though, and unless they really manage a quality overseas signing, missingout on Kartik may not be a very smart move.
And terrific to see you standing up for the other Surrey lad at last!!!.

Msp - as you suggest, I accept it could all go horribly wrong. Releasing Kartik would look utterly daft in the worst case scenario - ie we fail to sign Smith or any meaningful overseas batsman and Keedy then flops!

Not sure I was so much standing up for Pietersen as simply passing on some news. We are all merely messengers for our game.

Indeed we are!.

Anthony Mc Grath is unlikely to be offered afurther playing contract at Yorkshire,however he could well be retained in a coaching role or offered the second eleven captaincy on afull-time basis,

He didn't do all that bad last season did he?

i wouldnt belive that comment msp, as McGrath was reportdly told that he was going to be offered another 1 year contract as he held their batting line up together last year!

McGrath's performances weren't bad last year, and he's only 37, not young by any means, but there are many over that age playing county cricket.

CGrath still suffers from the after affects of his car crash a couple of years back. On any individual day he cannot be sure if he will be fit to play.

He will still be with us - unless he chooses to stop and he has indicated he wants one more season - but it is likely to be in a reduced contract.

Very strong suggestions emerging that Surrey have signed Graeme Smith as captain for at least part of the 2013 season. Formal announcement expected to follow.

Confirmed now - 3 year deal and will captain the side.

Kabir Ali has joined Lancashire from Hampshire

Always liked him, at Worcestershire he had a very good season one year in divison 2 and i felt he deserved an England call up. Big chance at Lancashire, good signing for them.