The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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MBTGOG wrote:Oh I know...... Just wanted to give out is all. It just all gets so monotonous. Wait till we see the Welsh schedule. I'm guessing it'll be the same apart from a a different lower level side.

Yes, Munsty and whats the betting Ireland will be playing South Africa - again. (a weakened South Africa of course)

Is it maximising income though. I have no doubt that a well publicised three test series against South Africa or Australia would do far better.

I can't describe how good I think Irelands summer schedule is:

Barbarians
New Zealand
The Maoris
New Zealand
Some Random ITM Cup Side
New Zealand

Excellent - thats what will sell. If RFU had any sense they'd be hoping for the likes of SA to stay for 3 tests and try milk it for all its got.

MBTGOG wrote:

Rava wrote:

England to play Fiji, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand in 2012 autumn Tests.

So play one small nation and then go back to the same three nations that are seen every year. That'll be interesting

Just out of interest, Munsty, what would your preferred format be?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/5942802/Hugo-Porta-laments-rugbys-war-of-muscles

Interesting article here.

red_stag wrote:Is it maximising income though. I have no doubt that a well publicised three test series against South Africa or Australia would do far better.

I can't describe how good I think Irelands summer schedule is:

Barbarians
New Zealand
The Maoris
New Zealand
Some Random ITM Cup Side
New Zealand

Excellent - thats what will sell. If RFU had any sense they'd be hoping for the likes of SA to stay for 3 tests and try milk it for all its got.

I like the idea of a Three Test series but considering there are only three real big sellers from the Southern Hemisphere, Argentina hopefully will become one soon, a few countries are going to miss out up north.

What I would propose is Two Test tours and then add in a "Marquee Test".

So England play Fiji, then New Zealand in Twickenham and the following week in Manchester and finish off with one more game against Australia in Twickenham.

In all likelihood, I'd like to see the Fiji game brought somewhere else but I know England will want to have as many games at Twickers as possible.

MBTGOG wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/5942802/Hugo-Porta-laments-rugbys-war-of-muscles

Interesting article here.

Well done Munsty, cracking read. That's my kind of thinking.

MBTGOG - yea I'm fairly sure England have to play them all at Twickers.

What I would be thinking of:

England v Fiji
England v South Africa
The "English" Barbarians v South Africa in Wembley
England v South Africa
Northampton Saints v SA
England v South Africa

I think the concept of an "English Barbarians" would be a big seller. Market it as a completely uncapped or retired team from the Premiership.

So Stag, if South Africa tour England, New Zealand tour France, Australia tour Ireland and Argentina go to Wales, who do Scotland and Italy get?

Glas a du wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/5942802/Hugo-Porta-laments-rugbys-war-of-muscles

Interesting article here.

Well done Munsty, cracking read. That's my kind of thinking.

Mine too. I have been saying it for a while but it has become far too much a game of contact rather than skill mixed with contact.

Teams tour to Wales....region matches for midweek

Dragons vs ??
Wales vs ??
Blues vs ??
Wales vs Tier 2 nation
Scarlets vs ??
Wales vs ??
Ospreys vs ??
Wales vs ??

I think that may work....

Micky T took a bet from Rava that he has a joke on any subject

Rava said: "beaver"

T knows he is beaten: "damn!"

Glas a du wrote:Micky T took a bet from Rava that he has a joke on any subject

Rava said: "beaver"

T knows he is beaten: "damn!"

Definitely stealing that one.

MBTGOG wrote:So Stag, if South Africa tour England, New Zealand tour France, Australia tour Ireland and Argentina go to Wales, who do Scotland and Italy get?

They could play each other or another Tier 2 nation like USA or Canada for example.

Glas a du wrote:Micky T took a bet from Rava that he has a joke on any subject

Rava said: "beaver"

T knows he is beaten: "damn!"

Rava wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:So Stag, if South Africa tour England, New Zealand tour France, Australia tour Ireland and Argentina go to Wales, who do Scotland and Italy get?

They could play each other or another Tier 2 nation like USA or Canada for example.

Italy might take that but Scotland are used to the big nations and they are probably the major money maker for them. They will not want to give that up.

Thats a good point actually Munsty that I hadn't considered. Maybe:

Northern Hemisphere Pot:
England
Ireland
Italy
France
Scotland
Wales

Southern Hemisphere Pot:
Argentina
Australia
New Zealand
Pacific Islanders
South Africa


Thats still 6 v 5

Anyone else think a good tour for someone like Tonga would be playing a Tier Two Nation like Georgia or Russia at the end or the start of the tour then during the tour staying in one country like Ireland where they play one of the provinces, then the Wolfhounds in another of the Provinces and finish off with a real Test against Ireland?

Rava wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:So Stag, if South Africa tour England, New Zealand tour France, Australia tour Ireland and Argentina go to Wales, who do Scotland and Italy get?

They could play each other or another Tier 2 nation like USA or Canada for example.

That's good!

MBTGOG wrote:

Rava wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:So Stag, if South Africa tour England, New Zealand tour France, Australia tour Ireland and Argentina go to Wales, who do Scotland and Italy get?

They could play each other or another Tier 2 nation like USA or Canada for example.

Italy might take that but Scotland are used to the big nations and they are probably the major money maker for them. They will not want to give that up.

Munsty, Asbo got my meaning

MBTGOG wrote:Anyone else think a good tour for someone like Tonga would be playing a Tier Two Nation like Georgia or Russia at the end or the start of the tour then during the tour staying in one country like Ireland where they play one of the provinces, then the Wolfhounds in another of the Provinces and finish off with a real Test against Ireland?

Very good idea I may steal it

Woss occurrin'?

Should have seen that Rav.

Glas a du wrote:Micky T took a bet from Rava that he has a joke on any subject

Rava said: "beaver"

T knows he is beaten: "damn!"

Someone has been watching Dave lately Glas.................

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:Anyone else think a good tour for someone like Tonga would be playing a Tier Two Nation like Georgia or Russia at the end or the start of the tour then during the tour staying in one country like Ireland where they play one of the provinces, then the Wolfhounds in another of the Provinces and finish off with a real Test against Ireland?

Very good idea I may steal it

Work away.

I doubt Tonga (or Fiji/Samao) would make enough money from touring NH Tier 2 nations, which is a shame as that's whats needed.

I like the fact that Ireland and Wales are doing tours of NZ and Oz respectfully, and I believe Wales maybe playing Fiji as a mid week- also Scotland are doing a 2 test series of Samoa (or it may be Fiji) and a mid week game against Oz.

But my ideal for Wales in future years would be for a test against Oz/SA/NZ, then a test against a Tier 2 nation, a mid week game Wales A against a Tier 2 nation, then a game against a Oz/SA/NZ, then on the Sunday a tier 2 game or a OZ/SA/NZ game against 1 of the regions and then another game against a Tier 2 nation.

I think that would be a good tour, would use a large variety of players, would give the tier 2 nations exposure, and bring in the money.

Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

Actually good point Rava. Viva la KILT!!!

How much do you think countries like Tonga and Samoa make from playing the Tier 1 nations?

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

Ireland playing in Murrayfield is it?!

prop_lyd wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

Ireland playing in Murrayfield is it?!

Yup

For your viewing pleasure - EURO

Rava wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

There's a second slot in the greenhouse with Hoog

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Rava wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

There's a second slot in the greenhouse with Hoog

Asbo, I wouldn't go to so much trouble mate

Sounds like a shallow grave

Loves that film, I do

Van Morrison is playing two concerts in Ireland next year.
Friday 3rd Feb in Belfast
Saturday 4th Feb in Dublin

Reasonably decent seats are £60 plus booking fee.

Can you ask him to do another gig on 10th March so he can help me celebrate?

Ah, Van Morrison. Named after where he was conceived.

Rava wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Rava wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

There's a second slot in the greenhouse with Hoog

Asbo, I wouldn't go to so much trouble mate

Oi what's with the pimping out of my car?! Hoog was meant to be staying in my house for 2 nights last meet....he never actually made it to even see my house once!

The only decent comment on here for a while IMBO is that of Prop concerning mid-week games.International head to heads are becoming so much a bore,repetitive nonsense, that more focus must be placed on giving the bread and butter rugby the opportunity to contest touring sides;and it would help develop the game by interesting the locals who would fill Lansdowne for a Leinster/Boks, or Twickenham for a LI,Wasps/Oz.

Looks like I may have to upgrade the car rental from a Kia

I'm a tramp, what can I say?????

prop_lyd wrote:

Rava wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Rava wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

There's a second slot in the greenhouse with Hoog

Asbo, I wouldn't go to so much trouble mate

Oi what's with the pimping out of my car?! Hoog was meant to be staying in my house for 2 nights last meet....he never actually made it to even see my house once!

Where was he? Does he have a history of not sleeping where he's mean to be?

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:

Rava wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Rava wrote:

red_stag wrote:Just wait until the Six Nations and you can play your Tier 2 nations game in Edinburgh

I'd be careful Stag or you could well be sleeping in Prop's car on 11th December.

There's a second slot in the greenhouse with Hoog

Asbo, I wouldn't go to so much trouble mate

Oi what's with the pimping out of my car?! Hoog was meant to be staying in my house for 2 nights last meet....he never actually made it to even see my house once!

Where was he? Does he have a history of not sleeping where he's mean to be?

Sleeping is not the problem...

Hi, been away with work.. Hope alls well all...?

Just checked my profile and I realised I have 17 people onmy ignore setting.

Davie 
BATH_BTGOG 
mystiroakey 
beshocked 
tigerleghorn 
nottins 
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler 
wrfc1980 
SafeAsMilk 
english warrior 
cabbagesandbrussels t
Tomathy 
englandglory4ever 
HERSH 
Iso 
Bitter Beer 
England rugby fan 

Wow, that's a lot! How does one get on this august list?!

I've noticed Davie wumming a bit. Wasn't there an admin or mod called Davie?

Also that England rugby fan is a pretty similar poster to Nottins in that he only seems to go on Welsh threads arguing (or arguing with Welsh supporters anyway). Seeing as Nottins is no more under that name, maybe he is back?

Hi all by the way. In the middle of two weeks leave before my three month holiday. Good news is I get Dragons v USAP a week today before I go (rain permitting of course).

Very jealous of the imminent big meet by the way. Nice to see that idiot Hughie on Saturday at Wembley. That man has some impressive ways to dodge silly stadium laws

I get the feeling Dreamer toook his place Rev.

Rev - can you lend me a Dragons shirt to wear at the Chiefs game

red_stag wrote:I get the feeling Dreamer toook his place Rev.

Rev - can you lend me a Dragons shirt to wear at the Chiefs game