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Post by Driver Tue 08 Nov 2011, 12:25 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 4:36 pm

Awful result for Irish, I bet Pete/Nick are not happy boys.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 4:38 pm

don't rate Weepu mate - think he's the best of a bad bunch of NZ scrumhalves.

how did Irish lose - that's them on an uphill struggle now, can't see them qualifying at all.

cant wait for Munster v Saints...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 4:45 pm

I must admit I'm kind of with you on Weepu although he had a great WC. Doussain is good shout, very different to Simpson & Phillips too.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 5:05 pm

I like the Samoan no9 - rate him quite highly, is he at Ospreys?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 5:06 pm

There's only one Tommy Bowe!!!

What a dire game though. He seems canny Chris, Ospreys fans don't seem to rate him though.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 5:11 pm

That's because he;s not as good as Mike Phillips ;-)

Love how Ospreys have banned their players from using fake tan.

This game is so boring...do love the Heineken Cup though, rugby from noon-8pm each weekend!

Are Sarries playing tomoorw?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 5:14 pm

Yea think so, Balshaw 2 tries. Really hard team to pull away from Biarritz.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 5:15 pm

Cracking try by Ulster taht - think the Clermont team was taken by surprise as its the first thing Ulster have done that wasnt boring...

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:04 pm

Pooly see that Calum Clark is starting again - definite now starting choice for Saints think he could be another who gets into England 6Nations squad...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:05 pm

So you keep telling me lol, must a shoe in if he's staring for his club.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:12 pm

Is Dowson carrying a niggle? Imagine he'd start ahead of Clark if not?!?!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:13 pm

I just like to make my point lol.

Going to be a tasty game this - hate Munster, another team who put the boot in and cheat as much as they can.

What a great try, absolutely fantastic!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:14 pm

Good finish Ashton, great start to the game!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:16 pm

No Dowson isnt mate - Clark is first choice for Saints, he's been playing brilliantly - not just saying it because he's in my team, but watch his breakdown work. Look at his work in support the ball carrier too, always binds and secures the ball. Lineout work is great too.

The Russian wing is class, wonder if people will go for him in the transfer window!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:18 pm

"I just like to make my point lol."

Just a little, on a daily basis. I don't think you've ever bigged anyone up more than Simpson though. You're incessant!! Lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:25 pm

Big fan of Dickson, wish he had a bit more pace though he'd be magic. Really niggly game

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:25 pm

Simpson's a top quality no9 - never said he was finsihed article but he's improved over last 12 months. Think Dickson at Saints is very underated, he's better than Wiggles I think.

Wish Hartley always played like this - its the big games he does well, but doesnt always back up the performances - say the one against Wales when Gatland slated him.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:26 pm

When did Lamb get this good!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:34 pm

We have some great 9's. Mujati suffering again in the scrum

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:39 pm

Funny how everyone sees scrum so different - he looks like he's getting a good shove on for Saints, whose scrum is going forward all the time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:44 pm

Munster def getting scrum edge

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:48 pm

Quality try from Howlett. Garbage attempt of a tackle from Clark on Murrey caused that.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:49 pm

So both Munster tries shouldnt have been allowed - first was a block on Ashton that took him out the game and second was a blatant knock on and then two blockers on Foden.

They are like Leicester in that they get away with everything and anything. Think Munster are my most disliked team...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 6:51 pm

Clark looking long way from Int quality Chris.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 7:20 pm

Saints scrum much better 2nd half

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:23 pm

Clark was very good Pooly, was at the heart of the breakdown and stopped a lot of turnover ball by securing it.

Looking back at the game, you have to feel for Saints as (i) first try was a penalty for Saints for taking Ashton off the ball (ii) second try was a knock on by Munster and then a penalty for taking Foden off with two blockers and (iii) satrt of the 37 phase move was two penalties for Saints - first their no6 jumping over the top of a maul and then O'Connell coming in from the side.

Nigel Owens cost Saints the win, getting those three decisions wrong - think he bottled it and allowed Munster to do what they wanted at the breakdown. Bad refereeing decisions today from him. Mallinder will be well p issed off....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:27 pm

Thought Clark was poor in the 60mins I seen, that bump of Connor was criminal. A flanker shouldn't be getting bumped by a scrum half, shows he needs to tighten up his game but still really young. He's a good prospect

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:38 pm

Foden played really well and Saints front 5 gave Munster loads of issues. I think the Downey try was forward too Chris before the Munster hand. Always get rub of the green at home. Good game

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:54 pm

Pooly, Foden bumped about 4-5 Munster forwards during the game, it happens - doesnt mean they have to tighten up their games, Clark is very hard tackler and good technique. Think he's a talent who could develop well if given more game time, Saints managemetn think very highly of him. Wood was immense too.

Can't believe Owens didnt penalise Munster in the buildup to the drop goal - what a shocking decision with their no6 climbing over a maul and then O'Connell coming round the side, was so blatant. 17 points shouldnt have been given.

Was very impressed with Lawes defensive work today, he needs to work onhis ball carrying and he'll become top class.

If only the Russian didnt drop that ball - certain try that. Personally think Saints were robbed in that.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:56 pm

And we thought Tindall was a bad influence...what about Zac Guildford, jeez.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10765719

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Nov 2011, 8:58 pm

Chris, I've not seen the game, but your posts always make me laugh mate.

You are one of the most one eyed rugby fans ever, it does make me laugh. Love your passion for the game mate. OK
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 9:03 pm

It was a front on tackle at zero pace, Clark will get a bollocking for that, real poor play that led to Munster try. Was a good game, Munster side not great but a force at home. Losing BP isn't too bad for Saints

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 12 Nov 2011, 9:03 pm

Christian Wade running them in for fun, hat trick in the first 24 minutes tonight.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 Nov 2011, 9:31 pm

Is it on TV Pete?

Saw that Wade started taking conversions. He's potentially our versions of Shane Williams - saw him last weekend and didnt realise how damn fast he is. He's also about 4ft 5...

Bordeaux are a poor, poor team though - think Wasps are on about 5 tries at the moment

What try was it on Pooly? The one that should have been disallowed for taking Ashton off the ball or the one where there was a knock on and then Foden got blocked? Neither should have been given. First game where I've been disappointed with Owens.

Catching up on the league now - tell you what the right wing Ryan Hall can finish, scored a cracker again.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 9:35 pm

Either way Clark should have nailed Murray

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 Nov 2011, 9:36 pm

Saints try was forward too, these things happen.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 12 Nov 2011, 10:48 pm

Mujati was good in the scrum. Did a job on Munster throughout.

Northampton were by far the better side from what I saw (although drink impared) and Foden had a stormer. Him, Dagg and Beale the top 15's in the world. Next year will likely decide the order of the trio. Dagg had a great world cup but to consider him the best in the world on a good world cup is naive but if he continues current form then the title is his.

Dickson was class today. The boy needs to be given a go with England. He offers the calm, assured play which Youngs and Care don't always give.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 12 Nov 2011, 10:49 pm

Also have to point out that Dowson, Wood and Wilson has to be the Saints first choice back row!

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 13 Nov 2011, 9:28 am

Missed this occuring: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/15695442.stm
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 13 Nov 2011, 11:15 am

Heino results all done, will get scorers and league tables done later.
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Post by Guest Sun 13 Nov 2011, 12:25 pm

dammit_chris wrote:And we thought Tindall was a bad influence...what about Zac Guildford, jeez.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10765719


That Is genius. Him and dagg are crazy characters

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:06 pm

are you in Toulouse matt?


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Post by Driver Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:16 pm

Steve did you get the rugby paper today?

Sale in talks with BDP
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:23 pm

sod off Driver are you pulling my leg? I will get it later when I get back to manchester.

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Post by Driver Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:28 pm

It's apparently a toss up between you guys and bath for him
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:31 pm

Why would he want to come here?!?! Finally gets rid of Smit so No2 jersey his.

Could see him doing a few months before S15 maybe but not a long term thing.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:34 pm

That would be a unbelieveable coup. Suspect he'd go tot Bath though, More Saffers etc.

We have got one forward lined up already of the Richie Gray calibre according the the Sale Sharks journalist at Manchester Evening News. Assuming that isn't BDP then it appears we are finally using the salary cap properly.

Last season Sale had the most expensive squad apparently. Paid our players the more money than anyone else in AP.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:35 pm

I think he'd come for 2 years then go back to get his 2 shirt for the WC.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:42 pm

Yeah had heard that Steve. Chris Jones was suppose to be on ridiculous money last year!!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 13 Nov 2011, 1:45 pm

Amlin results done, bar one game to be played this afternoon.
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