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Post by Driver Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:25 pm

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:49 pm

Smashing work Pete , if you want i can do the Amlin this week for you?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:50 pm

Players like Daffyd James would have been on big bucks as was Ben Cohen. Whereas I suspect players like Carl Fearns who'd have been great to keep hold of was probably hugely undervalued.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:57 pm

Anyone watching the Bath game? It's like watching paint dry

Louw is having a nightmare. He doesn't seem to want to smash through defenders the way he used to do in S14/15
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:01 pm

Cusiter and Gray aren't having good games. Louw has been okay. He isn't going to smash through defences in the HC, its not how the competition works. Defences are too solid.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:22 pm

If you want to do the Amlin this week be my guest Driver. OK
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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:30 pm

What a finish............
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:31 pm

What a great finish to a game that was. Terribly unlucky though.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:36 pm

Tom Heathcote looks a better prospect every game he plays. Needs to find regular game time at fly half.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:04 pm

Heino results and tables fully done. Will get the Amlin finished later.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:05 pm

Massice scrumaging effort from Harden and Wood early on in Toulouse. I am starting to consider Wood as good option for England Loosehead.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:14 pm

Glos playing well. May is cracking.

Glos front row has been great all year. Diawiduuk is keeping out lawson and has arguably been our best player this year.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:20 pm

What an odd decision with that late tackle. The guy knocked it on and the guy completed his tackle and it was seen as tackling the man without the ball

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:40 pm

Mcallister showing his class
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:45 pm

Mac been dreadful until that kick. Definitely not a ten. That fijian winger is excellent every time I see him

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:48 pm

Agree Mac was poor until the kick. Toulouse lineout is unreal

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:05 pm

McAllister has looked awful at times on this match. How many times has he missed touch of pens?

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:26 pm

Anyone get the sense that Burgess would be a handy 13
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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:30 pm

Trinders got toe!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:32 pm

All Gloucester's youngsters have gas! No substitute for it.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:34 pm

I hope Trinder is involved in the 6N , shame he's same age Manu


Poitrinaud - some side step that!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:34 pm

And then there's Voyce....

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:35 pm

Fitzgibbon is an awful referee.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:36 pm

I'v seen worse....
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:38 pm

I am not sure Manu is as nailed on as some people think. He still has things he needs to work on. I think I'd prefer someone with a bit more pace and better hands at 13 with Manu at 12 in an ideal world.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:40 pm

No this has been a very poor game from him. He is simply guessing at scrum time and is missing a lot of forward passes and holding on to the ball at the ruck.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:42 pm

I'd like to see

9.Danny Care
10.Toby Flood
11.Chris Ashton
12.Manu Tuilagi
13.Henry Trinder
14.Charlie Sharples
15.Ben Foden

20.Ben Youngs (If Fit and i mean 100%)
21.Freddie Burns
22.Jonny May/Delon Armitage
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:45 pm

Manu to 12 could be an option. If we look at other options for 12 Barritt/36/Farrell/Allen I'm not sure any are Int quality (although they need testing).

We need some some gas at 13, a backline of:

9. Youngs
10. Flood

11. Ashton
12. Manu
13. Trinder/May
14. Sharples
15. Foden

Is mouthwatering Smile

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:52 pm

May will be an international by next season I think. Fitzgibbons always dreadful. Fair result. Toulouse 10,12,13 let's them down a bit.

Thought mat was sensational at fullback in his first appearance there. Can play anywhere. Wood and big Jim also went well

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:53 pm

Great minds Driver lol. Only thing that worries me is the midfield defence. Tindall is a great defence lynchpin, not sure a combo of Manu and Trinder/May is quite ready to be paired.

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:55 pm

Need a 10 inside to marshall them and a gobby 9 to keep them in place. It's why i'd go Care and look to bring Farrell in for the Italy and Scotland games
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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:55 pm

John Smit scores on his Saracens debut
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:57 pm

I would look to move towards a England squad rather than a 22 over the next 12 months. Its a tough call whether to have a controlling player or a powerhouse at 12. As a more adventurous backline I'd go with the following.

9. Danny Care/Ben Youngs
10. Toby Flood
11. Charlie Sharples
12. Manu Tuilagi
13. Henry Trinder
14. Chris Ashton
15. Ben Foden

20. Lee Dickson
21. Owen Farrell
22. Delon Armitage

but a more conservative backline Id like to see this

9. Lee Dickson
10. Toby Flood
11. Delon Armitage
12. Owen Farrell
13. Manu Tuilagi
14. Chris Ashton
15. Ben Foden

20. Ben Youngs
21. Twelvetrees
22. George Lowe

I don't really see why we can't have two options in a position. Don't need a first choice in every position but can have a squad rather than a side so that when injuries hit they don't hit as hard.

Players like Joseph, Ford, May, Burns, Simpson, Wade, 36 etc could all come in when ready.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:31 pm

Think England have more good youngsters than any other nation at the moment in terms of potential - question is will they all come through and develop and can we find a no8 and n07 amongst them as we have top quality everywhere else!

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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:34 pm

Matt Kvesic and Jamie Gibson are stand outs along with Alex Grey
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:43 pm

As for the pack I'd also like a pack capable of dragging the opposition into a dog fight as well as a pack which could play at a high intensity

1. Wood
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Deacon
5. Lawes
6. Wood
7. Fourie
8. Fearns

then a more high intensity pack of

1. Corbisero
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Lawes
5. Palmer
6. Croft
7. Wood
8. Haskell

Got an abundance of talent to filter in such as J.Gray, Marler, Brookes, Imiolek, Thomas, Lahiff, Vunipola, Harden, Gaskell, Attwood, Kitchener, Garvey, Day, Launchbury, Gibson, Wallace, Clark, Mercer, A.Gray etc

We are in desperate need of another Hooker to emerge to challenge Hartley.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:47 pm

I imagine the 3 hookers will be Hartley, Paice and Gray. Possibly Mears but hopefully not!

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:50 pm

Think gray will challenge Hartley. Harden is not a bad shout for a call up if he carries on playing like he has. As a glos fan I would have wood in the squad on form.

Fail to see how people are calling for fearns at 8 he has barely played there

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:54 pm

It is where he is suited to play. He is a great carrier and I hope its where he will play for Bath when he gets over his injury.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:12 pm

Looks like Edwards is signing with Wales again:

http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyunion/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rugby/11/11/13/RUGBYU_Wales.html&BID=504

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:46 pm

I like the look of Mikey Haywood, the Eng u20 hooker who is on the bench for Saints a lot, think he could end up taking over from Hartley if he develops like he is - seems to be very similar but enjoys running with the ball a bit more.

Hartley's tight play seems to have improved over last 12 months to the detriment of his loose play, though think a major issue that people overlook with him is his ability to wind players up.

We need a new partner for Lawes in second row, a real beast of a ball carrier as I think Lawes will become the best defensive lock around, but not sure he will develop a brilliant carrying game.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:51 pm

Lawes was exceptional yesterday. Just catching up on all the games. Interested to see doc and Dowson dropped. Thought Clark had a good game and looks a prospect at 6. Great breakdown work.

The munster 6 looks good and howlett still worth signing for anyone needing a winger.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:05 pm

Lawes could become the best defensive lock in the world - he made tackle after tackle yesterday.

Thought Wood was absolutely fantastic - there were a lot of young players in that Saints 23 and everyone stood up. Think they will top that group, as they are getting better in each game.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:45 pm

steve reckon our heineken cup group is going to be very tough and close. happy to get a losing BP at toulouse.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:49 pm

Amlin scorers and tables now also updated OK
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Post by Driver Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:54 pm

http://au.eurosport.com/rugby/reports-bok-shot-dead_sto3026589/story.shtml

Terrible news
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:01 pm

It will be close Nick. Very close. I have yet to finalise my side for it. Quite pleased to have gotten a BP win v Connacht.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:07 pm

Just saw that Driver, awful news.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:35 pm

PR (TH) Phil Swainston (England)
PR (TH) Ruaridh Murphy (Ireland)
LK Bob Casey (Ireland)
FL James Scaysbrook (England)
FL Jacob Rowan (England)
FL Will Fraser (England)
CE Ollie Smith (England)
CE Seilala Mapusua (Samoa)

All available, don't need massive deals.
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Post by stnick88 Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:51 pm

think a lot of games will go with the home team so could come down to bonus points

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:49 am

See Worsley's had to call time.
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