haye v vitali ?

by rycoys Sun 20 Nov 2011, 9:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

whos going if it happens ? i will be after the dissapointment of hamburg ! i belive haye is so much better than the wlad performence ,

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:24 am

I think Vitali wins a decision.

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:25 am

Would have to go with that Scott but am praying for some excitement at the very least.

by Steffan Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:25 am

Scottrf wrote:Pain.

No its...PAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:26 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:Would have to go with that Scott but am praying for some excitement at the very least.

Are you saying Scott is boring?

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:36 am

Whys this being talked about as if its happening?

I think Haye is just trying to get some attention that he desperately craves.

Its bad enough he has to talk about himself after a Groves fight, but throwing hints of a return is just sad. You either are or you aint.

Naseem did the same as did Hatton, its pathetic. Just sign the contract and take the beating thats awaiting you Mr Haye. If you don't want too, then go crawl under your big pile of letters with acting offers.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:37 am

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Whys this being talked about as if its happening?

Because it's happening.

by bhb001 Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:50 am

Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Whys this being talked about as if its happening?
Because it's happening.

Not a chance that it will happen. Too many yawns around the world

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 11:51 am

bhb001 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Whys this being talked about as if its happening?
Because it's happening.

Not a chance that it will happen. Too many yawns around the world

Quoted to preserve in case of an edit.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:03 pm

But its not happening Scott, unless you have something more reliable that some nerd on ESB saying "Haye IS ON"

At this moment, its not happening, maybe it will maybe it won't. But if it IS going to happen, they should just come out with it.

Booth is being a tool as well, saying that Haye sparred a few rounds the other day and looked slow and sluggest (or words to this effect), saying that he told David that its a hard road back from retirement. Hes only been retired a couple of weeks for cryin out loud.

Considering that he hardly ever fought that many times, whats happened to Haye within the last few weeks that has had such a bad effect on him.

Team Hayemaker talking nonsense again.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:06 pm

If you mean it's not on BBC Sport, you're correct.

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:12 pm

Daily Mail commented on it a couple of days ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2063614/David-Haye-considers-returning-fight-Vitali-Klitschko.html

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:19 pm

Im not taking in all the "Haye considers this, Haye considers that".

Hatton spent the best part of 1-2 years talking up the Khan fight last time we had a retired fighter from the UK.

Until pen is put to paper, it is another attention seeking session from Haye trying to grab a few headlines. He would get more respect if he just announced he has signed. Instead he plays his games with the public.

Audley is making his comeback in 2012, now that sounds like more fun.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:20 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Im not taking in all the "Haye considers this, Haye considers that".

Nor am I.

by bhb001 Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:27 pm

Scottrf wrote:
bhb001 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Whys this being talked about as if its happening?
Because it's happening.

Not a chance that it will happen. Too many yawns around the world
Quoted to preserve in case of an edit.

Print it off and stick it over your bed. Rolling Eyes

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:36 pm

i honestly think audley could do it!!

by bhb001 Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:38 pm

alma wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Im not taking in all the "Haye considers this, Haye considers that".

Hatton spent the best part of 1-2 years talking up the Khan fight last time we had a retired fighter from the UK.

Until pen is put to paper, it is another attention seeking session from Haye trying to grab a few headlines. He would get more respect if he just announced he has signed. Instead he plays his games with the public.

Audley is making his comeback in 2012, now that sounds like more fun.

I'd actually quite like to see Audley v Fury. I think Channel 5 would be pretty happy with the viewing figures too

Unfortunately, it would get seriously high viewing figures, especially if Audley had Russell Grant in his corner! This is a fight that is more likely to be made (Another quote for Scott)

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:38 pm

alma wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Im not taking in all the "Haye considers this, Haye considers that".

Hatton spent the best part of 1-2 years talking up the Khan fight last time we had a retired fighter from the UK.

Until pen is put to paper, it is another attention seeking session from Haye trying to grab a few headlines. He would get more respect if he just announced he has signed. Instead he plays his games with the public.

Audley is making his comeback in 2012, now that sounds like more fun.

I'd actually quite like to see Audley v Fury. I think Channel 5 would be pretty happy with the viewing figures too

The whole of the UK might be still fuming with big Fraudley, but rest assured, he is guaranteed to pull a few million viewers no matter how poor a fighter he is. Comedy value alone, be is right up there as a marketable fighter.

The PPV side of him would never make much money but Terrestial TV would have a field day with him.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:39 pm

I agree there bhb, and it's a massive fight.

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:44 pm

fury is getting the millions fighting unheard of fighters and got huge ratings for chisora. audley would get even more.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:48 pm

Fury got 1.74m vs Pavjik up from 1.03m vs Firtha and not bad compared to 2.22m vs Chisora. You'd have to think Audley could double it.

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 12:54 pm

Oh and a peak of 3.3m, which I think translates to better numbers than Chisora, but a lower average because the show was longer with the undercard fight.

by XR Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:00 pm

Would be funny if this fight happened, Haye won and then faced Wlad and lost...Vit would have no belts Shocked

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:06 pm

Never thought about it like that gcBlues!!

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:07 pm

Don't forget the Firtha fight probably got lower views due to the fact that the feed cut out for people watching on non-HD!

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:08 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Don't forget the Firtha fight probably got lower views due to the fact that the feed cut out for people watching on non-HD!

Good point, forgot about that.

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:13 pm

In contrast to the division, yes, in contrast to the eras gone by no.

by J.Benson II Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:17 pm

alma wrote:i know Audley is a joke etc but he did beat Sprott with one arm for the European title and has Fury actually faced anyone good enough to fight for the European title?

Isnt Chisora fighting Helenius for the Europeon title?

by Scottrf Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:19 pm

J.Benson II wrote:
alma wrote:i know Audley is a joke etc but he did beat Sprott with one arm for the European title and has Fury actually faced anyone good enough to fight for the European title?

Isnt Chisora fighting Helenius for the Europeon title?

Spoiler:

by AlexHuckerby Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:21 pm

Scottrf wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:
alma wrote:i know Audley is a joke etc but he did beat Sprott with one arm for the European title and has Fury actually faced anyone good enough to fight for the European title?

Isnt Chisora fighting Helenius for the Europeon title?
Spoiler:

Must admit that one has passed me by Scott...

by XR Tue 22 Nov 2011, 1:36 pm

checkmate

by Rowley Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:25 am

alma wrote:So is Haye v Klitschko actually happening or is it just rumours? Steve Bunce in the paper made out like it was practically signed and sealed for 3rd March in Dusseldorf

Alma one of the tabloids this morning said it was all but a done deal for 3rd March next year in Dusseldorf, but apparently the Klitschko's had set a 10th December deadline to have it signed and sealed, does look to be more than rumours. All over to Windy's in March it is then.

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:26 am

It very much seems as though it's going to happen just needs to be properly announced, with this many people around the loop talking about it, it looks like a certainty.

by All Time Great Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:37 am

Sounds like this fight is going to be happening. Adam Booth was with Haye at the O2 last night, and Haye has remained quite close to the old Hayemaker clan which is usually strong signs a "retired" fighter will be coming out to fight again.

Vitali will beat Haye with ease. Adamek had a go, and pretty much got destroyed despite Vitali showing signs of slowing down. He's too big and skilled for Haye- it will either be a wide UD for Vitali or a Mid to Late KO if Haye has a go.

Forgive my ignorance, I would still pay to watch this fight so I hope it does happen.

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:47 am

Forgiven ATG I probably would too, seem to have a soft spot for Haye in the money deartment, paid for all of his fights.

by Rowley Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:50 am

You may not have to pay for it, depends if Sky are serious in their commitment to reign in the PPV's. Would be interesting to see if they do say this will be on normall Sky Sports if Haye sticks around or moves over to Primetime. Would be very nice to think on the back of fans shelling out for non events in Harrison and Wlad Haye would agree to this being on normal Sky to give a bit back to the fans but do suspect this is wildly optimistic on my part.

by **Fists of Fury** Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:53 am

Vitali certainly isn't too skilled for Haye, he is simply just too big and too hard.

by bhb001 Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:57 am

I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 9:58 am

if its on primetime i arent paying...

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:00 am

bhb001 wrote:I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

mick hennessy called furys last fight the hagler/hearns of the heavies you may want to retract that...

by Scottrf Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:02 am

alma wrote:So is Haye v Klitschko actually happening or is it just rumours? Steve Bunce in the paper made out like it was practically signed and sealed for 3rd March in Dusseldorf

Of course it's happening, I announced it yesterday.

by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:04 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
bhb001 wrote:I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

mick hennessy called furys last fight the hagler/hearns of the heavies you may want to retract that...

Why would he want to retract it? Hennessy said that after the fight, he didn't promote it as Hagler v Hearns before hand. Big difference.

There is no way I would pay to watch David Haye anymore.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:04 am

I always thought that Foreman/Lyle was the Hagler/Hearns of the heavies, whilst Hagler/Hearns was itself the Hamed/Kelley of the middles.

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:10 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
bhb001 wrote:I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

mick hennessy called furys last fight the hagler/hearns of the heavies you may want to retract that...

Why would he want to retract it? Hennessy said that after the fight, he didn't promote it as Hagler v Hearns before hand. Big difference.

There is no way I would pay to watch David Haye anymore.

point is it was an over the top statement and with the chisora fight he was going over the top to hype the fight.

by Rowley Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:12 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
bhb001 wrote:I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

mick hennessy called furys last fight the hagler/hearns of the heavies you may want to retract that...

Why would he want to retract it? Hennessy said that after the fight, he didn't promote it as Hagler v Hearns before hand. Big difference.

There is no way I would pay to watch David Haye anymore.

point is it was an over the top statement and with the chisora fight he was going over the top to hype the fight.

It's his job.

by Scottrf Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:13 am

rowley wrote:It's his job.

But still, one of the funniest comments from someone in boxing this year.

by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:14 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
point is it was an over the top statement and with the chisora fight he was going over the top to hype the fight.

That's what he is paid to do.

by AlexHuckerby Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:15 am

rowley wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
bhb001 wrote:I still prefer to see Fury vs Audley. At least no one will try to promote it as a modern day clash of the titans!!

mick hennessy called furys last fight the hagler/hearns of the heavies you may want to retract that...

Why would he want to retract it? Hennessy said that after the fight, he didn't promote it as Hagler v Hearns before hand. Big difference.

There is no way I would pay to watch David Haye anymore.

point is it was an over the top statement and with the chisora fight he was going over the top to hype the fight.

It's his job.

thus proving my point...

by Scottrf Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:16 am

Yeah I think Alex won that one.

by Rowley Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:19 am

Scottrf wrote:Yeah I think Alex won that one.

Does illustrate the benefits of reading the whole chain of comments rather than the last one, but such is life.

by Scottrf Wed 23 Nov 2011, 10:21 am

rowley wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Yeah I think Alex won that one.

Does illustrate the benefits of reading the whole chain of comments rather than the last one, but such is life.

I read the whole chain, no need to be patronising.

Someone said it wouldn't be billed as a Clash of Titans, he cited an example of the same promoter going overboard about the same boxer. A fairly relevant example, and he wasn't criticising Hennessy or saying it wasn't his job, just that he could well do it again.

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