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Rav,

I hope ye do go to Sarries or elsewhere. You can take most of them handily enough. I love ya and all, but we dont need ye lot down here(in Landsdowne), in an Inter-pro HC knockout. Id be up to 90. Lets all progress together. Pray we avoid each other. Then, see what gives in the SF's.

I think Munster are in for a beating here. They finished Saints season.

Gibson wrote:Rav,

I hope ye do go to Sarries or elsewhere. You can take most of them handily enough. I love ya and all, but we dont need ye lot down here(in Landsdowne), in an Inter-pro HC knockout. Id be up to 90. Lets all progress together. Pray we avoid each other. Then, see what gives in the SF's.

That's my thinking mate. I want three Irish clubs in the Semi-Finals.

If we face Sarries, do we play it in Cape Town?

clivemcl wrote:I know Notch, but you get citings for all sorts of things, surely Hines should/can be cited for this? Its totally cynical, and ruins the game. Can you imagine if this was a game that could have put us out and a cheat takes it upon himself to do that? Absolute disgrace. And I would hope hope no Ulster player would ever do that. Hate seeing that kind of thing regardless of which player or team.

I need a

Clive - Hines won't be cited. All successful teams have a cynical aspect to their play when its needed. I don't believe that things like this should be a citing issue - citings should be only for issues related to dangerous play, if cynical fouls are to be cited then we will regularly see 3-4 guys getting suspended after each game.

I do think that such incidents should be looked at to see if there is an arguement for such incidents to brought under the scope of the TMO. Would worry that every single try would then go upstairs though.

This was a good performance from Ulster and I hope they go away and look at the things within their control that they could have done better. This was a game that they could have won -but they are on the up and things are really looking good for Ulster. As I said in a previous post - I would fancy Ulster to win anywhere bar maybe Leinster. As a Munster fan.....I would prefer anyone else but Ulster if we get a home draw.

righty, not often I say this but: Ymlaen Munster!

And Ymlaen Scarlets even more so

Dave wrote:If we face Sarries, do we play it in Cape Town?

Yes!

Red Right wrote:

Dave wrote:If we face Sarries, do we play it in Cape Town?

Yes!

Nice 1 home QF!

Come on Munster!

Red Right wrote:
This was a good performance from Ulster and I hope they go away and look at the things within their control that they could have done better. This was a game that they could have won -but they are on the up and things are really looking good for Ulster. As I said in a previous post - I would fancy Ulster to win anywhere bar maybe Leinster. As a Munster fan.....I would prefer anyone else but Ulster if we get a home draw.

Good points Red.

Cite Hindes?

It was illegal but it probably was a penalty at most. In that part of the pitch it wasn't even a yellow.

No way should he be cited for that.

You may need a wee lie down clivem. And a wee

Teams out on the pitch! Stevo captain

Ymlaen! Tis wet out there, makes our task even harder, forwards need to have a stormer, but I believe

Pugh is starting, I've missed waht's happened to Jedwards!

Gowan Scarlets!

MrsP wrote:Cite Hindes?

It was illegal but it probably was a penalty at most. In that part of the pitch it wasn't even a yellow.

No way should he be cited for that.

You may need a wee lie down clivem. And a wee

Thing is, had Pearson spotted the penalty it may well have been a yellow (unlikely I know), but it would have been two penalties for cynical play in the space of 5 minutes.

Oh dear lord I've jsut seen we've bought Myhill (a hooker) on the the bench as replacement for Jedwards. Looks like Phillips (another hooker) may be moved to flanker if necessary when/if he comes on. Nightmare.

Great start from Munster!

Promising start though, some great breaks by Foxy and Sanjay so far. Forwards laying the ball back well, but Rhordi a bit slow in getting to it at the moment.

what did Munster do, rodders? my laptop won't let me put both matches on, it gets really slow

roddersm wrote:

WillyGilly wrote:Controversial but Clermont don't really deserve to top our group. We should have won yes but let's be honest how often do we travel to a European powerhouse and come home saying we could have won? Let's be proud of that.

Controversial but true willy. Devastated. Totally blew it man, too many errors. Poor restarts, missed tackles, missed place kicks, crooked throws in the lineouts, knock on by muller.

That simply wasn't good enough, Clermont were there for the taking. The margins are so small at this level and when opportunity knocks you have to walk through the door.

No knock on by muller. replay showed that he gathered it an inch from the ground and directed it between his legs. One of the many things the ref didnt see today along with Hines taking out a defender on the line (gifting a try) and holding back two forwards from getting to a ruck, along with Fofana's late challenge on iHumph preventing him from collecting his chip.

There were errors, but those errors wouldn't have cost us the game if Hines and Clermont had played within the rules.

Love this O'Mahoney kid!

Sorry, we've moved on I see!

Dreamer 3-0 to Saints.....yea sorry clive...

MrsP wrote:Cite Hindes?

It was illegal but it probably was a penalty at most. In that part of the pitch it wasn't even a yellow.

No way should he be cited for that.

You may need a wee lie down clivem. And a wee

Thats so much class girl. The attitude of a Ulster fan, who knows they've arrived, takes the knocks, slings & arrows of HC adversity and can afford to be magnanimous.

Not quite sure I like it mind.

to Saints?! how's that a great start for Munster??

3-0 to Scarlets, Rhys P taking the kicks at goal. He's taking the restarts too.

Great run by Gilbert - but has he scored?!!

We have clivem.

I hope the players will be thinking about what they can do better rather than what the ref could have done better.

It's frustrating but ultimately a blind alley.

It's not..... it was a great start until they conceded the 3 points!

Ach, Clive. Riding the swings and roundabouts of fate is part of this tournament. We got a lucky break with Quins and Toulouse slipping up and an unlucky break for the try decision. That's rugby.

I know it's tough though, I'm as gutted as you are mate

clivemcl wrote:

roddersm wrote:

WillyGilly wrote:Controversial but Clermont don't really deserve to top our group. We should have won yes but let's be honest how often do we travel to a European powerhouse and come home saying we could have won? Let's be proud of that.

Controversial but true willy. Devastated. Totally blew it man, too many errors. Poor restarts, missed tackles, missed place kicks, crooked throws in the lineouts, knock on by muller.

That simply wasn't good enough, Clermont were there for the taking. The margins are so small at this level and when opportunity knocks you have to walk through the door.

No knock on by muller. replay showed that he gathered it an inch from the ground and directed it between his legs. One of the many things the ref didnt see today along with Hines taking out a defender on the line (gifting a try) and holding back two forwards from getting to a ruck, along with Fofana's late challenge on iHumph preventing him from collecting his chip.

There were errors, but those errors wouldn't have cost us the game if Hines and Clermont had played within the rules.

Clive,

NO great team plays within the rules - at key times. IF they can get away with it. Something Ulster will find out to their cost - if they dont use it.

Leinster cheat like phhok. But smartly. Just ask de Chef.

Munster getting smashed in the scrum...

awww bless the ref, his earphone isn't working, so he now has to race across the width of the pitch to award the Try!

Da iawn Matt Gilbert!

Foxy is playing a blinder so far, this is the best out backs have looked for ages.

Hah, no fear of that Gibbo. Did you see Chris Henry last week?

It was a consummate display of classic openside skullduggery. My heart welled up with pride

missed the conversion 8-0 to Scarlets.


I don't like hearing that about Munster, we so need them to win!

ROG. Saints must HATE ROG.

Gibson wrote:

MrsP wrote:Cite Hindes?

It was illegal but it probably was a penalty at most. In that part of the pitch it wasn't even a yellow.

No way should he be cited for that.

You may need a wee lie down clivem. And a wee

Thats so much class girl. The attitude of a Ulster fan, who knows they've arrived, takes the knocks, slings & arrows of HC adversity and can afford to be magnanimous.

Not quite sure I like it mind.

Like I say, If that was a result that might have seen us knocked out, I doubt you'd be so magnanimous. It shouldnt happen, not by anyone, or to anyone. If the powers at be look at that and think it's a nothing matter, it doesnt say much for what we can expect if the time comes when an incident like that leads to your 'beloved' team gettin knocked out in the quraters, semis, heck even the world cup final...

actually no, your right, lets try and get away with as much as we can. Is that the message? If we can beat you by doing something illegal we will? should we practice illegal play on the training grounds then? I havn't had that yet...

Munster getting mullered in the scrum.

ah no Castres may have scored back, quick ball off the back of a fierce driving maul or has Georgie got him in touch?

Bless the ref, still got earphone problems.


phew, no try!

clivemcl wrote:actually no, your right, lets try and get away with as much as we can. Is that the message? If we can beat you by doing something illegal we will? should we practice illegal play on the training grounds then? I havn't had that yet...

It most certainly is the message. Playing in the forwards is practically the art of bending the rules. And all teams do it, every week. Including us. A bit of cunning goes a long way and has been part of rugby since year dot.

I think it really is time for that cuppa clive

Clive I agree with what you are saying but you don't get the descisions away from home...you have to take your chances and we didn't...unfortunately you don't win trophies with moral victories.

Hugely disappointed because the senior players...Best, Muller, Pienaar, Ferris let us down at key times. A great effort but that isn't enough.

Munster getting pasted here.....

I didn't say that clive. But refs miss stuff every game. They are human.

Our players made more mistakes than Pearson today.

Don't get me wrong, I am very dissappointed but so proud too. We can't do anything about what the ref misses we can only change what we do to make sure it's not our mistakes that stop us winning next time.

So many times in the past a daft decision from the ref has totally thrown Ulster. that doesn't happen any more (well except for Muller tonight) and we are a better team for it.

but are they getting pasted on the scoreboard rodders? that's all that matters! or is it still 6-3?

Notch wrote:Hah, no fear of that Gibbo. Did you see Chris Henry last week?

It was a consummate display of classic openside skullduggery. My heart welled up with pride

Ha! He knows it well. Yep. Somehow, it all evens out over numerous campaigns. I have beeen raging and sulking at so many key moments over the last 15 years, that cost Leinster games. But, we got it all back. The cliche is so true, you DO make your own luck. Mostly based on hard-earned and bitter experience.
Penalty TRY Saints.

Munster stepping it up now.

oh curses, line out on their 5m line after a superb touch finder from Rhys and we're done for truck and trail, balls, need to be taking those chances!

13-3 dreamer...scrum being smashed...O'Gara pen....13-6....this is heating up!

eeeep c'mon Munster! keept he pens ticking over please.

Sorry, is there any chance someone can send me a link for the Munster game?

MrsP wrote:Our players made more mistakes than Pearson today.

Aye, thats why I just can't get annoyed about it at all. Feel we are a bit unlucky not to win the group and that game but thats the way it goes.

aaargh great passage of play, lovely supporting runs by the Scarlets! (finally! where has that been last 4 games?!) great try savign tackle on Pugh though, 5m out and he's done for holding on

meh... I'll let it go, but I don't like dodgy play even if its Ulster doing it. Surely if citing did happen for some things (like incident leading to tries) it would discourage it and make the game more about skill. But whatever.

Call me honourable, or a liar, but if Ulster were to win the Heineken Cup, I wouldnt be happy if it was through a cheats try like that one...