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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 05 May 2012, 1:08 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 12 May 2012, 9:03 pm

I thought Sarries played well first half, Goode was coming into the line and Strettle looked dangerous. Just kind of reverted to type. Farrell just not a midfielder, adds nothing at 13.

I know your not a fan of Flood but you can see Ford has learnt a lot from him. The way he set up Tuilagi try was trademark Flood. I was reading an interview few weeks back and Flood was saying they spend a lot of time on training pitch, reckons Ford has helped with kicking from hand.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 12 May 2012, 9:24 pm

Sarries got outmuscled and I think they suffer a bit from not having any out and out stars who can win a game on their own apart from Brits - Goode had a good game, if only he was a little bit quicker though.

Ford's been doing that sort of thing since u18s England (when he was 15!) - his passing is just brilliant - a lot seems to come from the Aussie attacks coach Tigers have got themselves, is his name O'Connor or someone?

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Post by Driver Sat 12 May 2012, 10:14 pm

I don't see why Saracens don't start with Smit at TH let him feed the line out and use Brits in the midfield as the gain line breaker.
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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 10:41 am

Just watching yesterday's games as had my rugby dinner yesterday. Jj destroying tiny. Jj in immense form destroying everyone. Marler
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 10:46 am

Marler and JJ screwed Tonga and Mujati, then did the same to Waller and PDJ.

Brilliant performance from them. Will be a huge test for Marler v Cole/Castro. JJ should be fine v Ayerza who I am struggling to rate.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 10:49 am

Havent seen Smit play well recently, looks like he's put on a bit of weight too.

Guscott is saying that he wants to see Tuilagi/JJ partnership in midfield for England after this tour - want to watch more of JJ, have only seen him 3-4 times.

We could have an amazing backline by 2015 - just need to find some better second rows and a no7!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 10:51 am

Struggling to rate Ayerza? He's been the best LH in the prem imo.

Waller & PDJ did alot better than Mujati/Tonga but that could be due to fatigue. PDJ & Marler was epic

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 10:54 am

Got potential coming through.

Already got Lawes who will be in for the long run. Botha is impressive as is Parling. Coming through there is Garvey whom I'm excited for along with Attwood if he ever continues his development.

Launchbury, Kruis, Matthews, Gaskell, Myall, Robson, Day etc are all players who I think could do a job given time.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 10:57 am

I only saw the 2nd half.

First scrum after PDJ came on, Marler ruined PDJ in a big waybut then it got better for him. Mujati was doing alright but never on top. Tonga'uhia seemed to tire out badly.

I don't rate Ayerza that highly, particularly this season. He is behind Marler, Wood and Gill for sure. Perhaps others as well.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 10:58 am

Not a fan of Botha at all - he tackles and has a high work rate, but then so should any professional rugby player. He puts his body on the line all the time but is always picking up injuries in a game, never known a player who spends so much time getting treatment in a game!

Think Kitchener is one to keep an eye on - very dynamic, powerful and quick. Seems to have done well on his set piece too.

Thing that I've noticed a lot with Saints is that their scrum suffers when Lawes isnt in the second row.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 11:00 am

Waller and pdj struggling currently.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 11:03 am

Kitchener not for me. Believes his own hype far to much. Never impressed me when I've watched him. He and Attwood two huge let downs.

I am a big Christian Day fan though. Think he is very talented.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 11:19 am

Thought Attwood's come on at Bath a fair bit and when I've seen Kitchener get a chance he's done well for Tigers in latter half of the season - he was very good against Worcester last time out. Think both need big seasons next year and really push on.

Rugby Paper does a good article on the problems with the England no7 shirt -in that we have no one!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 11:58 am

just seen the Reds v Chiefs game and England need to go and try and find an English grandparent for Liam Gill! The Aussies have some serious talent coming through there - do people think that the s15 produces better no7s because of the style of game over there, quick to breakdown, fast running and more emphasis on turnovers?

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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 12:24 pm

Robshaw and steff aren't bad options at all for me! Both in great form.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 13 May 2012, 12:25 pm

Good win for reds. Sbw was a machine. Can't believe how many tries taumalolo scores! Apparently signed for Perpignan.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 1:07 pm

Pirates really pushing Bristol, good game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 1:10 pm

Cracking try Burgess!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 1:11 pm

Cracking try by Burgess - how on earth he isnt with an AP team I will never know!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 1:21 pm

Bristol are pretty dire, Pirates should be winning this one too to be fair.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 1:25 pm

Bristol are making a bloody game of this though! Defenses for both teams are truely awful. Standard between this and AP is huge

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 13 May 2012, 1:25 pm

Great game though! Pirates only get in trouble once they get turned over!

Going to be a great last few minutes!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 1:27 pm

Mad to watch, really like S15. Loads of turnovers then slipping off tackles.

Cheers Pirates!!! Just Welsh to worry about now.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 13 May 2012, 1:31 pm

Should get the awards done and out by Monday!! If anyone else wants to vote get them in by 6ish Monday please
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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 1:40 pm

I don't think the RFU will approve Welsh coming through , poor attendence in a ground like the stoop isn't going to be a great advert for the RFU.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 4:23 pm

Kahui out for season, Jesus that bloke likes getting injured whenever the Ints are coming up!

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,15991_7754064,00.html

AB 11 jersey up for grabs then

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Post by Driver Sun 13 May 2012, 5:35 pm

Guys i have a crazy crazy idea which could help solve the issues of draws and make the league a bit tighter.

First and foremost a big thing a lot of us emphasis during predictions is HOME ADVANTAGE and we tend to award the home side 2 or 3 points at the most in our prediction for it. What i purpose is we do a vote on the most intimidating places to play on the game and give these grounds extra points in predictions.

Just a thought thumbsup
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 5:44 pm

Think this gives an undeserved advantage though Driver.

For me a team needs to deserve their home advantage through good form and tactics etc.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 6:06 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Kahui out for season, Jesus that bloke likes getting injured whenever the Ints are coming up!

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,15991_7754064,00.html

AB 11 jersey up for grabs then

Looked a lot more serious on tv glad its just a dislocation about 3-4 months out. Good time to get injured on here with season almost over

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 13 May 2012, 6:08 pm

Not sure I get your idea Driver?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 6:10 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Kahui out for season, Jesus that bloke likes getting injured whenever the Ints are coming up!

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,15991_7754064,00.html

AB 11 jersey up for grabs then

Looked a lot more serious on tv glad its just a dislocation about 3-4 months out. Good time to get injured on here with season almost over

Shame for the lad as playing well, not had much luck with injuries over the years. Should have 40+ caps instead of 17.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 6:15 pm

It's the same with all these physical players like kahui ferris etc. always going to pick up injuries. I have dislocated a shoulder before. Painful but pretty straight forward recovery. It's always back and neck injuries that are the killers

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 6:21 pm

Always like Kahui, think first seem him against Jocks

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 6:27 pm

How does that make the league closer?? No one would win at Leicester or Gloucester.

It is a way of ending draws. Just a very unfair one.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 6:31 pm

Falcons win at Gloucester Very Happy

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 6:36 pm

Be a lot harder if Matt was given 3 points just because he has Gloucester

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 13 May 2012, 6:52 pm

To be fair I think the 10 point rule is the best way to go with draws in the playoffs. I didnt like the idea of picking penalties etc as I'd feel as if I was cheating one of you out of the game backing x to score, y to miss etc. With the 10 point rule its completly subjective and if two sides are that evenly matched think it is best to take the seasons record into account to split them

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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 6:54 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Falcons win at Gloucester Very Happy

Not in the league !! Whistle

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 13 May 2012, 6:56 pm

Draws in the regular season are no issue, only in knockout matches is it a problem. I am uncomfortable with the current resolution that has been used the last two occasions as at least two of the deciders (tries scored/conceded) are in part randomly decided.

Nominated kickers is an option, but it also leaves it open to abuse as to what 15 teams would have had on the pitch at the final whistle.
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Post by Guest Sun 13 May 2012, 6:57 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:To be fair I think the 10 point rule is the best way to go with draws in the playoffs. I didnt like the idea of picking penalties etc as I'd feel as if I was cheating one of you out of the game backing x to score, y to miss etc. With the 10 point rule its completly subjective and if two sides are that evenly matched think it is best to take the seasons record into account to split them




100% agree I was happy to lose to the ten point rule

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 6:58 pm

Haha...no we draw in this league Sad

Perhaps the only time real life Falcons have outdone me! That's really quite a sad fact for a Falcons fan...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 7:11 pm

All Blacks squad for Ireland tests

Charlie Faumuina, Ma'a Nonu, Keven Mealamu, Piri Weepu, Ali Williams, Tony Woodcock, Sam Cane, Aaron Cruden, Richard Kahui, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Brodie Retallick, Ben Tameifuna, Sonny Bill Williams, Beauden Barrett, Cory Jane, Julian Savea, Brad Shields, Conrad Smith, Victor Vito, Daniel Carter, Wyatt Crockett, Israel Dagg, Andy Ellis, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Richie McCaw, Kieran Read, Luke Romano, Luke Whitelock, Samuel Whitelock., Tamati Ellison, Andrew Hore, Aaron Smith, Ben Smith, Adam Thomson.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 7:15 pm

Sweeping changes! Have my eyes on a few of those

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 13 May 2012, 7:17 pm

Does anyonehad Luke Whitelock or Tamati Ellison?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 7:18 pm

Looking for a new 9 with Kerr-Barlow and Aaron Smith. Surprised not to see Andre Taylor and Freaun.

No Guildford or Gear either

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 7:18 pm

Don't think so Luke.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 13 May 2012, 7:20 pm

Guildford, Gear, Cowan, Hoeata and Fruean big omissions.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 13 May 2012, 7:21 pm

Cowan not so big with his impending move north.

Guildford not surprising but wrong in my eyes along with Gear.

Freaun a shock as he is in form

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 13 May 2012, 7:22 pm

Cowan is moving to Gloucester Luke, was never in the running

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 13 May 2012, 7:26 pm

Forgot bout that, still think it's a great signing for Gloucester.

Maybe Fruean will replace Kahui,

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