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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat May 05, 2012 3:08 pm

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 9:07 am

I reckon yours will be battle hardened for meeting pooly pete

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 9:19 am

Haha...how dare you Pete!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 9:20 am

Battle hardened or in hospital Wink

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 9:25 am

If it wasn't for the 5 English players in the starting line up my team selection would be relatively easy!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 9:29 am

So hard rotating quality English....

Good luck anyway boys, should be a cracker. Who won HC last year?

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 am

I am looking for consecutive titles. Been in the final 3 times running. We take the Heino very seriously

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 9:38 am

Gloucester are the holders.

Don't think anyone has won back to back Heineken Cups since Tigers in about 2000 and 2001. Wink

My team is up OK
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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 9:43 am

looks like we posted at the same time pete as mine is up as well.

I have only kept one of my pack from last week starting so have really freshened it up.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 9:49 am

I've kept 4 in, one to the bench and 3 dropped from the 23 altogether. Went through to see who had played how much. Elstadt for instance has not played many games at all for me this season and would have come off after about the hour mark so have kept him in. Likewise Corbs and Bismarck have had recent rests (Corbs was injury enforced) and would have come off during the game so start as well. Jones I have benched as he's not had a rest for a bit so even though he would only have played an hour he would have been due a bench spot this week anyway.

Tough looking team you've put out there this week. Surprised you've not kept Harinordoquy in the starting line up, always see him as one of your favourites.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 9:57 am

Am always loathe to trust wikipedia, but apparently Bonnaire is retiring at the end of the season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Bonnaire

Were you aware of that Mat?
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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 10:48 am

I knew it was from internationals but not from club. Ah well it had to happen sooner or later and has definitely saved AJ or savage from being cut from my squad.

Tremendous player. Guess he will get released after the match so i still get some cash

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 10:49 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:I've kept 4 in, one to the bench and 3 dropped from the 23 altogether. Went through to see who had played how much. Elstadt for instance has not played many games at all for me this season and would have come off after about the hour mark so have kept him in. Likewise Corbs and Bismarck have had recent rests (Corbs was injury enforced) and would have come off during the game so start as well. Jones I have benched as he's not had a rest for a bit so even though he would only have played an hour he would have been due a bench spot this week anyway.

Tough looking team you've put out there this week. Surprised you've not kept Harinordoquy in the starting line up, always see him as one of your favourites.

Hari is a favourite but so is bonnaire and he gives me the lineout balance that hari does as well. Alberts is a monster so i love to play him also

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Post by dammit_chris Tue May 15, 2012 12:45 pm

IRB look like they are giving a few new rules a go for next year - 5seconds to keep the ball at the back of a maul (Sarries wont be happy) and more areas where they can use a TMO - e.g. build up for a try.

Nothing on scrums though!

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Post by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 12:52 pm

good I hate it when teams just stand at the back of a maul for ages. so boring.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue May 15, 2012 12:55 pm

sarries are the worst at it when they just stand there and seeing how many players they can line up together! Their never bound properly, so never understood why the opposition just doesnt run round and take the ball!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 12:56 pm

Lee Dickson will be screwed, he spends half the game there

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 1:47 pm

As a reminder for all...

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1m for descriptive prediction
£0.5m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


Also, foreign transfers will open on 2nd June, and squads must be under the required limits at midnight on 30th June.

Once the AP final has been completed this season and SJE has the budgets up to date I will be taking them as gospel. There will be cash injections for the teams who finished towards the bottom end of the table to improve their squads, although these will not be given until the middle of June once I have worked out what is fair.

Summer tournament will begin a the start of July (details to follow).


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Post by prop_lyd Tue May 15, 2012 2:26 pm

I'm moving into a flat week beginning 25th June, I will try to have everything set in my squad by then but may need a gentle nudge during the week as it'll be pretty hectic!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 2:29 pm

No worries bud, cheers for letting me know.

If anyone is looking for some academy aged players for next season I have these available for £1m each.

HK Harry Allen (19/12/1991)
HK Rupert Freestone (23/04/1991)
PR Jared Saunders (18/09/1990)
SH Luke Baldwin (15/09/1990)
FH Jake Sharp (07/05/1991)
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue May 15, 2012 2:49 pm

Pete are the dates right with the Senior academy thing.

It says 22 years old or under. Joe Marler will be 22 then but is born on 7/7/90 so not after the date specified.

Is he in or out?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue May 15, 2012 2:53 pm

When I say he will be 22, he will be 22 on 1 Sept 2012

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 2:58 pm

I have amended the wording mate, should have said under 22, so therefore born on or after 01/09/1990 meaning Marler is just too old.

I have the same issue with players like Lahiff and Homer who miss out by weeks.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue May 15, 2012 3:03 pm

I now have a rather serious problem. balls

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 3:06 pm

Balls Jonny may is ineligible

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Post by dammit_chris Tue May 15, 2012 3:06 pm

I'll swap him for some academy players if you like Steven? Help you out and all...

Pete is there a general rule with transfers like how much players with 0 caps etc could get accepted for?

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Post by prop_lyd Tue May 15, 2012 3:12 pm

I'll take may off your hands matt!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 3:13 pm

JOC.....so close Sad

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Post by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 3:20 pm

Think all mine are OK. Yarde, Guy, Watson, Low are all youngens still.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue May 15, 2012 3:25 pm

New list of Quins players available.

Matias Aguero
Ruardrih Murphy
Tom Donnelly
Alasdair Strokosch
Rory Clegg
Riki Flutey
Gonzalo Canale
Cedric Heymans

I am now far less confident of my chances next season. Have had to add Marler, Brookes, Gaskell, Kruis, Hooper, Burns, Clegg and Lowe into my senior squad.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue May 15, 2012 3:31 pm

Think I only lose Jackson Wray from my academy - also still get Tuilagi, Cane, and Gill in there and lost 4-5 players due to them being u18!

Helps out a lot!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 3:33 pm

Some really on fringes, so tough. Luckily Faletau is ok......only one though!

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Post by Driver Tue May 15, 2012 3:36 pm

Sep Visser and Tom Catterick drops in my Academy
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Post by Driver Tue May 15, 2012 3:39 pm

Barbarians' squad:

Forwards - Schalk Brits (South Africa), Benoit August (France), John Smit (South Africa), Aled de Malmanche (New Zealand), John Afoa (New Zealand), Duncan Jones (Wales), B J Botha (South Africa), Neemia Tialata (New Zealand), Jerome Thion (France), Mick O'Driscoll (Ireland), Anton van Zyl (South Africa), Pelu Taele (Samoa), Raphael Lakafia (France), Antoine Burban (France), Akupusi Qera (Fiji), John Beattie (Scotland), Pedrie Wannenburg (South Africa), Juan Manuel Leguizamon (Argentine)

Backs - Isa Nacewa (Fiji), Mils Muliaina (New Zealand), Ian Balshaw (England), Cedric Heymans (France), Shane Williams (Wales), Paul Sackey (England), Sailosi Tagicakibau (Samoa), Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu (Samoa), Mike Tindall (England), Damien Traille (France), Felipe Contepomi (Argentine), Stephen Donald (New Zealand), Stephen Jones (Wales), Rory Lawson (Scotland), Jerome Fillol (France)

Fixtures:
Sunday, May 27 v England (Twickenham) 2.30pm
Tuesday, May 29 v Ireland (Kingsholm, Gloucester) 7.45pm
Saturday June 2 v Wales (Millennium Stadium) 2.00pm
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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 3:39 pm

casson will be getting released then. Jamie george is Ok as are Goosen, Charlie Walker etc so not too bad.

Need to make a few more chops to my Squad.

Daiduik, Szarseski all available for cash. As are a few others

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Post by Driver Tue May 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Casson looks a decent prospect as well
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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 3:46 pm

Add to my for sale list Tuitopu, Hanks, Fourie,, Dave Lewis and paul Diggen


AAAAGGGHHHH all my depth going walkabout.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 3:49 pm

Killer isn't it....those foreign signings I've wasted!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue May 15, 2012 3:50 pm

I'm screwed next year with the same rule - as will have to lose half my squad to keep the youngsters!

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 3:53 pm

I will still have a top side due to being lucky with my academy.

I have some great english in Certain positions. but during the 6 N i could struggle if they go well

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 4:01 pm

Modest as always lol

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Post by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 4:06 pm

totted up try scorers

Top Scorers for 2011/2012 AP Rounds 1-22

Topsy Ojo - 11
Sailosi Tagicakibau - 9
Jonathan Joseph - 9
Bjorn Basson - 8
Tim Visser - 8
David Strettle - 8
Digby Ioane - 8
Israel Dagg - 8
Keegan Daniel - 7
Ica Nacewa - 7
Ugo Monye - 7
Charlie Sharples - 7
Robbie Freuan - 7
George Pisi - 7
Chris Ashton - 7
George North - 7
Christian Wade - 6
Pierre Spies - 6
Jonny May - 6
Jamie Heaslip - 6

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 4:21 pm

Always modest pooly. you have to be!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 4:26 pm

Haha...I like it Matt

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 pm

To be fair though. The top 3 has not changed in a few years and that is due to us having the best squads.

Next year will level things and make foreigns so much more important. Form issues will hit home more also.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 4:35 pm

I take it you've been bored today nick!!! Laugh
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue May 15, 2012 4:37 pm

anonmattyt wrote:To be fair though. The top 3 has not changed in a few years and that is due to us having the best squads.

Next year will level things and make foreigns so much more important. Form issues will hit home more also.


That's the plan. The squad size decrease should make it a much more level playing field.
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Post by stnick88 Tue May 15, 2012 4:38 pm

quiet afternoon pal.

Like how its 3 Irish players at the top!
just a shame only one of them plays for me on this game

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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 4:44 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Add to my for sale list Tuitopu, Hanks, Fourie,, Dave Lewis and paul Diggen


AAAAGGGHHHH all my depth going walkabout.

Dawiduik and Casson gone.

Stephen Donald can be added to the list also but will need a good offer and Fasival would need a top offer but is available as i rarely play him

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Post by prop_lyd Tue May 15, 2012 4:55 pm

John Andress, Yann Thomas, Danie Russouw, Ben Gulliver, Richard Thorpe, Chabal, Kelleher, Pasqualin, Nicky Robinson, Rob Vickerman, Josh Drauninui and Greig Tonks

All available!! Also, I've done my academy if someone could glance at it at some point and possibly answer the few question marks next to ages!! Still after a hooker, TH, lineout lock, and outside centre!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue May 15, 2012 4:56 pm

England squad for Ba's game:

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Mouritz Botha; Alex Corbisiero; Paul Doran Jones; Phil Dowson; Carl Fearns; Jamie Gibson; Dylan Hartley; Tom Johnson; Joe Launchbury; Lee Mears; Ben Morgan; Matt Mullan; Tom Palmer; Matt Stevens
Backs (13)
Chris Ashton;Brad Barritt; Freddie Burns; Lee Dickson; Owen Farrel;l Ben Foden; Alex Goode; Charlie Hodgson; Jonathan Joseph; David Strettle; Haydn Thomas; Christian Wade; Richard Wigglesworth

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