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Euro 2012: Day 12 Thread
First topic message reminder :
Sweden v France (ITV 4, 19:45)
England v Ukraine (ITV 1, 19:45)
Current Group Standings:
France - 4
England - 4
Ukraine - 3
Sweden - 0
If points are level, sorting criteria is thus:
Equality of points after the group matches
8.07 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if MORE
than two teams finish equal on points);
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
MORE than two teams finish equal on points);
d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
paragraph 1.2.2);
g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
h) drawing of lots.
And this is what each team needs to do:
France (v Sweden)
Win - Secures qualification. Top spot depends on the result between England and Ukraine. If England also win, top spot goes to the team with the superior goal difference.
Draw - Secures qualification. Will still progress as group winners if England v Ukraine ends in a draw courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Through as second-placed team if England beat Ukraine. If England and Ukraine draw, France will still qualify courtesy of their better head-to-head record against the co-hosts. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.
England (v Ukraine)
Win - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France lose to Sweden. If both final group games end in a draw, France will qualify as group winners courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Out if France win or draw against Sweden. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.
Ukraine (v England)
Win - Secures qualification. They will qualify as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Out.
Lose - Out.
Sweden (v France)
Already eliminated.
Final day of the group stages, we have 6 teams through to the Quarters, 2 teams will join tomorrow. Sweden are already out courtesy of losing to the Co-Hosts and England. Ukraine need a win against England to qualify, nothing else will do and on their home patch they will be feeling confident. England only need to avoid defeat and they will make it to the quarters, whether they will make it to top spot or not depends on the French game and how many goals England can score with a certain Wayne Rooney back in the team (of course England could make it through with a defeat but that's a pretty unlikely scenario in which Sweden will need to beat France by a bigger margin than Ukraine beat England). For France, avoiding defeat will guarantee them qualification, a defeat and they will need to rely on England drawing or beating the Ukraine. And similar to England, they could make it through with a defeat.
Winners of Group D will face Italy.
Runners Up of Group D will face Spain.
Come on England!
Sweden v France (ITV 4, 19:45)
England v Ukraine (ITV 1, 19:45)
Current Group Standings:
France - 4
England - 4
Ukraine - 3
Sweden - 0
If points are level, sorting criteria is thus:
Equality of points after the group matches
8.07 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if MORE
than two teams finish equal on points);
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
MORE than two teams finish equal on points);
d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
paragraph 1.2.2);
g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
h) drawing of lots.
And this is what each team needs to do:
France (v Sweden)
Win - Secures qualification. Top spot depends on the result between England and Ukraine. If England also win, top spot goes to the team with the superior goal difference.
Draw - Secures qualification. Will still progress as group winners if England v Ukraine ends in a draw courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Through as second-placed team if England beat Ukraine. If England and Ukraine draw, France will still qualify courtesy of their better head-to-head record against the co-hosts. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.
England (v Ukraine)
Win - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France lose to Sweden. If both final group games end in a draw, France will qualify as group winners courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Out if France win or draw against Sweden. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.
Ukraine (v England)
Win - Secures qualification. They will qualify as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Out.
Lose - Out.
Sweden (v France)
Already eliminated.
Final day of the group stages, we have 6 teams through to the Quarters, 2 teams will join tomorrow. Sweden are already out courtesy of losing to the Co-Hosts and England. Ukraine need a win against England to qualify, nothing else will do and on their home patch they will be feeling confident. England only need to avoid defeat and they will make it to the quarters, whether they will make it to top spot or not depends on the French game and how many goals England can score with a certain Wayne Rooney back in the team (of course England could make it through with a defeat but that's a pretty unlikely scenario in which Sweden will need to beat France by a bigger margin than Ukraine beat England). For France, avoiding defeat will guarantee them qualification, a defeat and they will need to rely on England drawing or beating the Ukraine. And similar to England, they could make it through with a defeat.
Winners of Group D will face Italy.
Runners Up of Group D will face Spain.
Come on England!
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walcott on
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rooneys fine- people are over analyzing him- the rest of the midfield and attack have been as bad if not worse. He needs this run out today
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Carroll should have started and Rooney should have started on the bench, maybe.Postie wrote:Am thinking Carroll on for Rooney sometime in 2nd half, if it stays the same ? Just to give us more of an outlet, as it's obviously not working very well so far ?
Rooney looks rusty, no doubt about it.
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I missed the first half. Just managed to get in my lounge to catch the second half.
Friends, What happened in the first half? Who played well or not? What should be done differently for England to score goal(s) in the second?
Friends, What happened in the first half? Who played well or not? What should be done differently for England to score goal(s) in the second?
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how to get rid of rust=playing
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Nore Staat wrote:
I am only listening to this on the radio
Consider yourself lucky then.
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sweet rooney!!!!
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FreekShow wrote:Nore Staat wrote:
I am only listening to this on the radio
Consider yourself lucky then.
EDIT: I spoke too soon!
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Rooney scores - what idiot said he should have started on the bench
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gerrard has been producing some sweet balls to be fair to the lad
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Breadvan wrote:Barry and Lampard are really being missed in the midfield. Milner n Parker are woeful...
Must be desperate times.
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Amazing goal by Rooney. Great skill and poise to smash that header in.
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Stevie Wonder could have scored Rooney's goal, the Euro's are such a poor tournament if this England "team" can top their group!
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we are missing wilshire and yes barry is certainly better than milner..
its lampard or gerrard for me- not both! i think we got lucky that one was injured
its lampard or gerrard for me- not both! i think we got lucky that one was injured
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azania wrote:Amazing goal by Rooney. Great skill and poise to smash that header in.
NAUGHTY WUM
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azania wrote:Amazing goal by Rooney. Great skill and poise to smash that header in.
what an odd comment lol, every negative hey
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azania wrote:Breadvan wrote:Barry and Lampard are really being missed in the midfield. Milner n Parker are woeful...
Must be desperate times.
I know..
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azania wrote:Amazing goal by Rooney. Great skill and poise to smash that header in.
I thought it was a simple tap with head that my grandma would have done just as well. It was as easy as the one by Navas for Spain yesterday. Ukraine gollie fumbled in collecting the ball coming in from the corner.
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If that was Walcott, England would be 2-0 now. Just sayin'
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Can we just turn this thread into a Milner article?
Milner you play like your legs are amputated!
Milner you play like your legs are amputated!
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mystiroakey wrote:we are missing wilshire and yes barry is certainly better than milner..
its lampard or gerrard for me- not both! i think we got lucky that one was injured
True dat.
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God Bless their pony tailed donkey
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azania wrote:Amazing goal by Rooney. Great skill and poise to smash that header in.
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lols- knew sweeden would do em or get da draw
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Nore Staat wrote:
It sounds like Ukraine are tiring?
yeah it was obvious- they commited way to much first 30 mins
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As it stands England will top the group and play Italy in kiev on sunday.
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JT LEGEEEND
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LOLS THAT WAS A GOAL
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Thought that was over
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Goal line technology needed!
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If that was England we wouldn't hear the last of it.
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If we were playing Germany its 1-1
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Disgraceful that goal not being given. That could cost Ukraine a QF place
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John Terry - apart from lacking in pace is a very solid defender. However Ukraine did actually score. What are those officials doing on the line?
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Nore Staat wrote:
Ashley Young is a right footer playing on the left wing?
He's always done that.
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Sepp Blatter is right, goal line technology IS NOT needed.Clearly a great decision by the officials.
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If Ukraine draw 1-1 against England and France lose against Sweden - would Ukraine go through in second place?Steffan wrote:Disgraceful that goal not being given. That could cost Ukraine a QF place
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They havent shown the replay on the big screen.
Somebody has common sense.
Somebody has common sense.
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Nore Staat wrote:
John Terry - apart from lacking in pace is a very solid defender. However Ukraine did actually score. What are those officials doing on the line?
it was a great clearance- and thats why it isnt 1-1- just wasnt conclusive- we need gola line tech.
the odd thing is tho as it stands that non goal hasnt really helped england get through- but it has very much helped france
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Well it would be 1-1 if the officials did their jobNore Staat wrote:If Ukraine draw 1-1 against England and France lose against Sweden - would Ukraine go through in second place?Steffan wrote:Disgraceful that goal not being given. That could cost Ukraine a QF place
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Is Wellbeck on the pitch. The Anglo Ghanaian has gone MIA.
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