Euro 2012: Day 12 Thread

by Duty281 Mon 18 Jun 2012 - 21:57

First topic message reminder :

Sweden v France (ITV 4, 19:45)
England v Ukraine (ITV 1, 19:45)

Current Group Standings:

France - 4
England - 4
Ukraine - 3
Sweden - 0

If points are level, sorting criteria is thus:

Equality of points after the group matches
8.07 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if MORE
than two teams finish equal on points);
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
MORE than two teams finish equal on points);
d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
paragraph 1.2.2);
g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
h) drawing of lots.

And this is what each team needs to do:

France (v Sweden)
Win - Secures qualification. Top spot depends on the result between England and Ukraine. If England also win, top spot goes to the team with the superior goal difference.
Draw - Secures qualification. Will still progress as group winners if England v Ukraine ends in a draw courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Through as second-placed team if England beat Ukraine. If England and Ukraine draw, France will still qualify courtesy of their better head-to-head record against the co-hosts. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.

England (v Ukraine)
Win - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Secures qualification and they will progress as group winners if France lose to Sweden. If both final group games end in a draw, France will qualify as group winners courtesy of their superior goal difference over Roy Hodgson's men.
Lose - Out if France win or draw against Sweden. If both England and France lose the team which has the superior goal difference between the pair will qualify.

Ukraine (v England)
Win - Secures qualification. They will qualify as group winners if France fail to beat Sweden.
Draw - Out.
Lose - Out.

Sweden (v France)
Already eliminated.

Final day of the group stages, we have 6 teams through to the Quarters, 2 teams will join tomorrow. Sweden are already out courtesy of losing to the Co-Hosts and England. Ukraine need a win against England to qualify, nothing else will do and on their home patch they will be feeling confident. England only need to avoid defeat and they will make it to the quarters, whether they will make it to top spot or not depends on the French game and how many goals England can score with a certain Wayne Rooney back in the team (of course England could make it through with a defeat but that's a pretty unlikely scenario in which Sweden will need to beat France by a bigger margin than Ukraine beat England). For France, avoiding defeat will guarantee them qualification, a defeat and they will need to rely on England drawing or beating the Ukraine. And similar to England, they could make it through with a defeat.

Winners of Group D will face Italy.
Runners Up of Group D will face Spain.

Come on England!

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:12

No Ukraine have to beat England to qualify.

by azania Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:12

THEEEEEOOOOO!!!

by GG Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:12

I thought referees hated England?

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:14

Considering the Ukraine striker was offside, there shouldnt be a complaint.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:14

The goal just wasnt conclusive,however it was a gaol- but the goal was offside any way so it wasnt deserved

by Leff Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:14

Enter Walcott. There comes speed with him.

by azania Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:15

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Considering the Ukraine striker was offside, there shouldnt be a complaint.

He wasn't.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:16

Az he was

by Leff Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:16

Three time replayed that Terry defence inside the goal line. It was a goal, why was it not?

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:17

He looked offside on the replay when they stopped it. Can't really complain if the goal never should've got that far

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:17

Leff wrote:Three time replayed that Terry defence inside the goal line. It was a goal, why was it not?

Milevskiy looked offside in the buildup soooooooooooooooooooooooo....

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:17

Leff wrote:Three time replayed that Terry defence inside the goal line. It was a goal, why was it not?

why- you need to ask- it wasnt given!

but it was offside anyway so justice

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:18

I think Ukraine have to beat England to qualify and they would go through at the expense of England. France beat Ukraine 2-0 so France would be safe as far as I can tell.

If England lose 2-1 to Ukraine and Sweden beat France, then Ukraine would finish top, and France and England would both have 4 points. England and France drew 1-1 but ... France beat Ukraine so I think that means Ukraine and France would go through.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:18

Nore Staat wrote:I think Ukraine have to beat England to qualify and they would go through at the expense of England. France beat Ukraine 2-0 so France would be safe as far as I can tell.
If England lose 2-1 to Ukraine and Sweden beat France, then Ukraine would finish top, and France and England would both have 4 points. England and France drew 1-1 but ... they beat Ukraine so I think that means Ukraine and France would go through.

unless france get beat by 2

actually no its head to head first isnt it

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:19

If Ukraine draw and France lose, they'd be level on points but France beat Ukraine.

by Steffan Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:20

Ukraine have just gone to pieces now. Looks like the mighty world beaters are through. Another step towards the glory of 1966 and all that...

by Postie Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:21

We're sitting deeper again.......

I'd still like Carroll on, to give us a target and hold the ball up a bit.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:21

england going top at present its looking nice though.. come on england- just one more

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:22

It'll be Rooney for Henderson.

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:23

Andy Carroll played really well against Sweden. By not playing him today I fear that he has lost the momentum he built up in the Sweden match. I suspect he would have scored against Ukraine (Gerrard to Carroll header etc).

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:24

teams have got to realise that england have a decent goalie and stop shooting from 40 yards i think

by Postie Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:25

That's it Roy, listen to me. Very Happy

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:25

Italy are looking good. I am not sure England will be able to beat them in the quarter finals.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:27

that hurt1!!!!

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:27

yeah italy are decent- better them than spain for me- better to top the group as well. good for confidence

by Leff Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:29

France vs Italy would have more drama material, given their head-smooching history. Not happening here. Maybe Rooney will provide some body rubs vs Italy.

by **Crimey** Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:30

Ibrahimovic's goal has to be goal of the tournament so far. Followed by Balotelli's and Welbeck's.

England to top a group many thought they'd crash out of it seems. Not that bad to be honest.

by **Crimey** Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:31

Gerrard has assisted 3 out of the 5 goals England have scored.

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:32

Crimey wrote:Gerrard has assisted 3 out of the 5 goals England have scored.

Very Beckham-esque.

by Leff Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:33

France has played this as though they prefer to play Spain.

by azania Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:33

I wonder what the possession stats are.

"The assault". "Trenches are dug". FFS its a game not bloomin war.

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:33

Crimey, how have France played?

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:34

England will look at Ireland vs Italy as a blueprint. Italy aren't exactly the most potent team in this tournament.

by azania Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:34

Terrible game.

At least England will have one more match before returning home as glorious losers.

Nice one lads.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:34

Leff wrote:France has played this as though they prefer to play Spain.

i very much doubt they would have had that much faith in england in fairness- and noone would rather meet spain than italy Euro 2012: Day 12 Thread - Page 4 732107

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by **Crimey** Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:34

FreekShow wrote:Crimey, how have France played?

Not very well, worse than England.

Created a lot of half-chances, Giroud missed a free header, but Sweden have been the better side on balance. I've been concentrating more on the England game though.

France seem very happy to shoot from distance to be honest, saw it in the England game as well.

by Postie Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:34

Sweden 2 - 0

by GSC Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:35

2-0 Sweden.

England will top the group

by **Crimey** Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:35

Sweden have scored a second as well which shows how poorly France have played.

by Leff Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:35

Second goal for Sweden. clap

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:36

swedens a good team- ibraham is a handfull

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:36

The Radio 5 live commentators are saying that Englands performance has been poor - that they have played the poorest of the group - but have been effective. This suggests poor attacking players but a great manager?

Sweden 2 France 0.

by Postie Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:36

woohoooo ! England top the group, well done lads.

by **Crimey** Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:37

To finish top of the group isn't bad.

Bring on Italy! I think we can give them a good go. Might not win, but I fancy our chances to snatch a goal from somewhere.

by azania Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:37

Nore Staat wrote:The Radio 5 live commentators are saying that Englands performance has been poor - that they have played the poorest of the group - but have been effective. This suggests poor attacking players but a great manager?

Sweden 2 France 0.

Nah. Just lucky.

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:38

Nore Staat wrote:The Radio 5 live commentators are saying that Englands performance has been poor - that they have played the poorest of the group - but have been effective. This suggests poor attacking players but a great manager?

Sweden 2 France 0.

it suggests people dont have a scooby and they are over critical. we grind it out- we are hard to beat- better than the rest in the group thats for sure

by Guest Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:38

Well Hodgson has got the results. What will he have up his sleave against Italy?

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:38

azania wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:The Radio 5 live commentators are saying that Englands performance has been poor - that they have played the poorest of the group - but have been effective. This suggests poor attacking players but a great manager?

Sweden 2 France 0.

Nah. Just lucky.

lucky how az??

by GG Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:39

azania wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:The Radio 5 live commentators are saying that Englands performance has been poor - that they have played the poorest of the group - but have been effective. This suggests poor attacking players but a great manager?

Sweden 2 France 0.

Nah. Just lucky.

Steffan, time to change your details to Italian Very Happy

by mystiroakey Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:39

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