aston villa thread

by jimmyinthewell68 Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:26 pm

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well after the terrible frustrating long ball defend defend mcleash season ,villa have now a good prospect in Paul Lambert . when Martin oNeil left i was at first gutted like many villa fans but then when u add up all the average players he bought along with high wages then u can see why learner decided enough was enough .so Martin walked out . next come along gerard houllier a few weeks late in the season . lots of villa fans didnt take to him because of the early results but i liked the way we played under him and when he bought Darren bent and the players settled in his style of play we rocketed up the league .even beating Liverpool in revenge after that 4 nil beating and his infamous badly chosen words that didnt sit well with villa fans .poor health parted another manager . then come Alex .no more needs to be said on that . so now we have Paul . a few good signings come in and i for one now feels we can compete in cup games and perhaps a eighth position in league .

by erictheblueuk Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:43 pm

It would have been the perfect weekend if Burnley hadn't turned over Man City, just didn't see that coming.

by westisbest Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:33 pm

Hopefully we can continue this form and get the win on saturday.
After Swansea, we have a tough April.

Man Utd a
QPR h
Spurs a
Man City a.

Might lose to the Manchester clubs, but hoping for a win against QPR, maybe a draw v Spurs. Sherwood back at his old club.

by jimmyinthewell68 Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:37 pm

I can only see a win at home with QPR ,possible draw with spurs .man u too good for us . never know with city

by westisbest Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:59 pm

Will be interesting to see how we get on against the Manchester clubs under Sherwood.

Not played any of the 'big guns' under him yet.

by jimmyinthewell68 Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:54 pm

Yes good point . who knows . Swansea be a good test

by westisbest Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:30 pm

Thought our good little run of game would continue against Swansea.
A win would have been huge.

Goint to be a tough run in now.
Games coming thick and fast.

Easter saturday man utd a
Then on the tuesday QPR h, must win.
on the saturday Spurs a
then the cup semi final
Then we end the month away to Man City.

Into may

Everton h
West Ham h
Saints a
Burnley h

If we can get 10 points(at least) from our final 8 games, we would finish on 38 points, hopefully that will be enough to keep us up.

We shall see.

by westisbest Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:11 am

Massive game tonight. Am getting nervous.
Must win, point does not really help.

QPR had a great result on saturday and will be confident.
Can see us losing, but think we will just win 2-1.

A win and we go 5 points clear.

C'mon Villa lets get a win, with a good performance to.

by **Galted** Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:52 pm

Didn't expect 3 points today - Villa have been hopeless against Spurs in recent years.

by westisbest Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:07 pm

I thought we might get a point.

Said 4 points this month would be good and we have got them.

Think 4 more points will be enough now.

Benteke is on fire.

Sherwood getting the best out of the players.

Hull, Sunderland losing, was another bonus.

Onwards and upwards.

by Roller_Coaster Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:59 am

Sherwood has just about done it for you, he's done the same with Benteke that he did with Adebayor. You now look better than the 5 below you and the baggies run in is horrific too.

Twists and turns to go but, you buggers, you're probably out of the reach of us hoops now.

by westisbest Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:05 am

Alright RC.

Hell of a game last tuesday.

Yeah Sherwood has been good to say the least.
Christ even Gabby looks a different player since he came in.

The plus side for us is, there are teams below us who have to play each other, so points will be dropped.

of our remaining 5 games, 3 are at home which is a bonus.

I think the 3 at this stage to go will be Hull, Sunderland and one from QPR, Leicester & Burnley

by Roller_Coaster Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:39 am

All I keep hearing (all bloody season) is that Leicester, us and Burnley just need to keep doing what we're doing and trust etc etc. None of us win enough so I think it'll be us 3 to go back down. Hull & Sunderland are terrible and the baggies run in might keep it interesting to the end though.

I think we've only got a maximum 7 points possible (might be able to draw at home with West Ham, hopeful of beating Newcastle and have to beat Leicester away last day). Nowt coming from trips to middle eastlands or Anfield even with the rose coloured gigs on!

by westisbest Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:10 pm

Well a cup final. 15 year wait.

Didn't expect that at the start of the season.

Great stuff today.
Need to make sure we stay up now.
Back to concentrate on the league.

Very tough game next saturday against City.

Feel we will stay up.

Look forward to the 30th.

Great stuff today villa.

Benteke again.

Sherwood doing a good job.

by Guest Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:09 pm

I don't want to sound negative, but do you feel having Europe next season could see you massively struggling next season, because it's likely you will again be near the bottom.

by **Galted** Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:58 pm

LiamB wrote:I don't want to sound negative, but do you feel having Europe next season could see you massively struggling next season, because it's likely you will again be near the bottom.

Not likely, Villa forays into the Europa/UEFA cup tend to end in the qualifying round. Normally against Rapid Vienna.

by westisbest Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:24 am

Ha, thats true Galted.

Know what you mean Liamb.

Can be a bit of a hinderance.

by Rowley Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:26 am

I thought they had changed the qualifcation for the UEFA and only cup winners went in, think the extra place reverts to the league rather than the cup runners up. Might be wrong, don't care either way, am still basking in the semi final glory.

by 1GrumpyGolfer Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:53 am

That's right Rowley, it's win or bust for Europe qualification.

by westisbest Fri May 15, 2015 3:17 pm

Really hope we get the win tomorrow, not just because it guarantee's safety, but would be 3 wins in a row, hopefully 4 against Burnley.

We started the season well, hopefully it will end well, by the end of the month.

by **Galted** Sat May 16, 2015 2:51 pm

Oh dear. At least it's been quite a few weeks since I had a Villa-related "oh for f*ck's sake!"

by Rowley Sat May 16, 2015 7:46 pm

Galted wrote:Oh dear. At least it's been quite a few weeks since I had a Villa-related "oh for f*ck's sake!"

I had about fifteen today. Particularly awkward as I don't have BT sport so had to watch the game at my parents.

by westisbest Sun May 17, 2015 6:26 pm

Just got back from Brighton so was away from it.

Very bad, shouldn't be conceding 6 to anyone.

Heard Vlaar & Okore were shocking.

Need to strengthen central defence in the summer.

by Rowley Mon May 18, 2015 9:59 am

Okore was dreadful, with Vlaar not much in front of him, played too high a line with a lack of pace between them.

by Guest Mon May 18, 2015 10:55 am

Villa been on cloud 9 for a while, needed this reality check. If anything, just shows with your owner not willing to spend, you're going to need to sell Benteke & actually allow Sherwood to build a squad, capable of not being dragged into another relegation fight next year.

by westisbest Mon May 18, 2015 11:17 am

We have a couple of buyers lined up, so i've heard.

Hopefully whoever it is, will spend.
We certainly don't need to sell Benteke and should'nt sell our best player, if the money is there to invest in new players.
Sherwood will have a few in mind no doubt. Has already said Benteke not going anywhere(although we have heard that before with players).
If the above happens, can look forward to the 2015/16 season.
Lets build on what we have got, get rid of the likes of Hutton, Senderos, Bennett, Sanchez.

by westisbest Fri May 22, 2015 12:52 pm

POTS - Delph
YPOTS - Grealish.

GOTS, between Delph's in the semi final
Benteke's v Man Utd at VP
Gil's v Bournemouth.

Will be decided after Burnley game.

From those 3 I would go with

Benteke
Gil
Delph.

Other notable mention's (for me)
Tekkers v Palace
Cleverly v Everton
Bacuna v Leicester (cup)
Benteke v QPR (3rd goal).

by westisbest Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:12 am

Well after a good start to the season, it was a bad end.

Hopefully we spend well in ther summer andf get rid of a couple of players.
Hope Benteke will stay.

Not to many highs this season, staying up, getting rid of Lambert.
Benteke's goals that kept us up.

Some good results when Sherwood came in and some bad ones, Saints away and the poor showing on saturday.

Next season may well be another relegation battle, but hope we can push on a bit.

by westisbest Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:16 pm

So onto the summer ins and out.

Looks like we might be getting Richards on a free.

What i hope is the likes of Hutton, Sylla, Weimann, Cissoko leave.

See how Bennett & Kozak do in pre season.
Am hoping Gardner stays injury free. Gets in the team, as i feel he will do very well.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:02 pm

Probably the most important thing for Villa is the takeover get done quickly enough for the new owners to inject some cash into the transfer kitty.

by westisbest Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:06 pm

Vlaar out for 4 months.

Need to get another centre back as well as another left and right back.

Also Tekkers replacement.

by westisbest Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:10 pm

So, just a few days till the start of another season.

Veretout, Amavi, Gueye, Bunn, Richards, Gestede, Ayew, Crespo.

Hopefully these guys will settle in and gel well asap.
If they do, then think we will do ok this season, may even smoke a few teams.

If they don't and find the premiership tough, as a team, we could once again find ourselves in the joys of a relegation dog fight.

Talk of Adebayor and Berbatov on the way.
Hopefully Tim can get them all playing well.

Obviously a big loss without Tekkers and Delph.

Looking forward to the new season and saturday.
Gutted that Villa will be playing less than 5 miles from where i live and i wont be able to go.

Anyway I think/hope we will be ok this season

UTV

by westisbest Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:30 pm

Good to see Grealish and Gil playing tonight.
Hopefully they may play a part saturday.

Traore played tonight as well.

Looking forward to seeing him in the first team.

by westisbest Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:55 am

So this is our worst start since the 86/87 season. We went down that year.

Wooooo.

Cmon Timmy sort it out.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:28 am

Not sure why you keep starting Agbonlahor mate - Gestede surely the better player?

by westisbest Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:17 pm

Don't think he is 100% fit.

Gabby is poor, but Sherwood likes him.

To be honest, Gestede will need time to make the step up.

Ayew looks dreadful and don't think he will cut it.

by Rowley Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:42 pm

I'd give Kosak a run. Got some goals in pre season. You know what you'll get with Gabby and it just isn't enough. Kosak is a big unit, get Traore fit and with him and Grealish on the wings we'd at least pose an aerial threat you'd think.

by westisbest Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:32 pm

Yeah Traore to come back with his pace.
Kozak looked good pre season.

Guzan

Hutton Richards lescott amavi
Westwood. Gueye
Gil grealish Sinclair
Gestede.

Subs

Bunn. Clarke. Traore. Veretout. Gabby. Kozak. Bacuna.

If everyone fit, would be my team.

by Rowley Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:57 am

Would not argue too much with that, would probably have Traore in for Gil, am also intrigued to see how the kid we signed from Liverpool looks at the back. He can apparently play anywhere across the back line so may be an alternative to Hutton. Pity we do not have stronger options in the net. Guzan has started this season quite poorly.

by westisbest Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:18 pm

Forgot about him Rowley.
He may play tonight, if he is fit.

Yeah, Guzan is looking a concern.

by westisbest Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:54 pm

Least Gestede is scoring.

Think we have the players to do well, they need to gel together, then i think we will be ok.

Sooner they get it sorted the better.

Stoke home saturday. 3 points hopefully.

by westisbest Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:06 pm

With Sherwood walking a tight rope, a few games to save his job.

Next 6 games (till end of november).

Chelsea a
Swansea h
Spurs a
Man City h
Everton a
Watford h

Tough games ahead.
Probably lose to Chelsea, despite their poor form.
Then he may just have Swansea game to save his job.

Rogers is being touted around.

Who would Villa fans want if he does get the chop?

Not to sure who else is out there. Available at the moment.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Brendan Rodgers would be a pretty good hire for Villa tbf.

Not sure who else is really out there, unless you go poach someone like Howe from a lesser club

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:15 pm

Harsh to sack him. Lambert got about 2 years of being pretty poor.

by westisbest Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 pm

Personally I would like to see him stay and turn the club around.

Don't actually mind the guy.
Just felt he's making a few poor decisions, player wise.

Just feel he may not have much time left.

Such is the way football is nowadays.

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:20 am

Sell your two best players that helped you avoid relegation in the previous season then sack the manager that turned around Villa's fortune to keep them up. Perfect recipe for relegation. But I suppose the players wanted out & it was difficult to stop them. Randy Lerner generally a good bloke put the club up for sale in May 2014 & hasn't found an appropriate buyer. In the meantime what is happening to Villa?

by westisbest Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:50 am

I certainly think we have the players to keep us up.

Some are just under performing.

Rudy is doing well considering he is not totally fit.
Veretout is looking decent last few games.
Gueye has done well so far.

I think our best player is Gil.
Played him on the bench, dont think he is fully fit either, same with young Jack.

Word is that Guzan will be off in january, or at least dropped for a new keeper(Lorris from Mainz), something like that, never heard of him, but the scouts have been looking at him.

As i said would like to see Tim stay and do well.

As Dolph says Lambert had a couple of years.

Players have to go out onto the pitch, play for the shirt and give it the 100.

by Guest Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:41 pm

It must be unsettling for all those at the club in knowing that the chairman has been trying to sell the club for 16 months now. Aston Villa over the past few years have been there and there abouts with regard to relegation. Losing your two best team players ... well without knowing much else I had Aston Villa as strong favorites for relegation. Would it be disastrous if Villa were relegated? Certainly Lerner would have to drop the asking price.

I thought this year Southampton would finally flounder - they keep selling key players each year - but somehow they have a system that starts from the top (the owners) that allows them to keep doing well (pushing above their weight in my opinion).

by westisbest Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:55 pm

Would certainly be disastrous for me.

Ok so we are just hovering around the bottom 3, struggling.

It seems very difficult to come back up from the championship.
Probably the most competative league out of the top 4.

I dont think we would come back up in a hurry.

Relagation would be something new for me.

Been following Villa since the late 80's
Since we were promoted to the old first division at the end of the 87/88 season, we have remained in the top flight of english football.

I would like it to stay that way.

Its been tough being a Villa fan since MON left.

Some poor football on show, bad signings.

Signing Benteke was a big highlight.

Am quite happy with the signings we have made in the summer, but as i keep banging on, they need to step up.

Lets start tomorrow.

The days of finishing in the top 6/8 are sadly only a distant memory.

Will be some time before that happens again.

by Fernando Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:19 pm

Joe Cole joins Coventry on loan Laugh

by westisbest Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:36 pm

Least he will get game time.

Thought he could have gone to a championship club though.

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