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Post by Diggers Tue 02 Oct 2012, 5:53 pm

First topic message reminder :

Of course there are shades of grey but ultimately nobody can be sent to jail for saying they would like to kiddy fiddle but won't as it's illegal and cannot include consent by definition.
They go to jail when they break the law by looking at images or worse acts. So what do you do, change the laws ? Having an open debate won't change the laws, it will still come down to the same thing.
So whether they are deemed evil by society or not is ultimately fairly irrelevant as far as I can see. The end game remains the same.

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 2:48 pm

I prefer bands Oakey that don't have the commercial success. Much more interesting. Once they get to the mainstream they tend to go downhill.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu 08 Nov 2012, 2:52 pm

I'm going to assume you mean Bloc Party.

The trouble with almost any band is that to some extent they build on what went before. Generally I find that if a band is called "innovative", all it means is that their influences were more obscure.
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Post by JAS Thu 08 Nov 2012, 2:52 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Can't think of a single artist that's relatively new who I would pay good money to watch right now, regardless of where they come from, whether British, American or even Iceland.
Edgy stuff that might be innovative doesn't seem to get played on radio here, sad truth that most music in the wider public domain is from artists who are in their thirties, forties or worse.

I think our generation saturated the edgy stuff market Kwini. There's nothing left to innovate and or shock in music now...it's all been done.

Of current artists I'd pay money to see Amy MacDonald, might even pay to see one of her gigs as well. Wink

I'm trying to think of the last "current" artiste I went to see live that hasn't been around for at least 15 years and...I can't.

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Post by Skydriver Thu 08 Nov 2012, 2:58 pm

Odd discussion. The question seems to have morphed as answers have been suggested and rejected.

x doesn't count because it's not recent enough [are we now saying 15 years?], y doesn't count because in someone's subjective view the music is not good enough despite commercial global success [which is what I thought the q was originally asking?], z doesn't count because non-Brits don't actually associate with UK...

Spice Girls perhaps? Presumably falls into the y category above.


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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 08 Nov 2012, 2:58 pm

Right now I'd say Mumford are the most popular new-ish British band to be successful here, but they've been around for quite a while now. Different but you wouldn't want to endure a steady diet of them.

JAS, Can't think of Amy McDonald without smiling at "The Lovely Aimi MacDonald" from At Last The 1948 Show, but now I'm really showing my age.

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:00 pm

X And Y for The Spice Girls Sky.

We can probably add another in that no one would want to be associated with it.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:01 pm

yeah nice folky feel to her..

I think the problem is these days is saturation tbh and so many avenues to get the music out there..which is great but where do you start!! i go through spotify all the time listening to music i have no idea what it is!! but then i like all genres

there are loads more good musicians out there today, its really hard to be defined as one of the best. I really dont think there is any less quality today- just a better field strength- like golf i suppose!!

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:04 pm

sky thanks thanks for that comment i thought i was going mad- SR you love a twist

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:06 pm

Ive just this minute spent a lot of money for some Michael Buble tickets for next year.......the missus loves him. Thats her xmas present sorted.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:08 pm

oh gawdd- i am going to that and all diggs(at the o2)- my mums birthday- she loves him

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Post by Shotrock Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:10 pm

Diggers - I saw him with my wife -- you won't be disappointed! Love that genre.

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Post by JAS Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:10 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Right now I'd say Mumford are the most popular new-ish British band to be successful here, but they've been around for quite a while now. Different but you wouldn't want to endure a steady diet of them.

JAS, Can't think of Amy McDonald without smiling at "The Lovely Aimi MacDonald" from At Last The 1948 Show, but now I'm really showing my age.

Yeah that's way before my time Kwini Wink
Check Amy out on YouTube, she does a couple of acoustic covers of Springsteen classics.

On a slightly different tack it never ceases to amaze me how some artists transcend borders but others just don't. I suppose it must be down to marketing but even so. E.g. Has anyone in the UK heard of Collective Soul?

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Post by Skydriver Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:11 pm

super_realist wrote:X And Y for The Spice Girls Sky.

Really? Blimey, I was sure they were around in the late 90's.

Or are you now saying that the artist needs to have STARTED in the last 15 years...?

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:11 pm

Who the hell is Michael Buble?
And what was he doing with Shotrock's wife??

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Post by pedro Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Who the hell is Michael Buble?
And what was he doing with Shotrock's wife??
Bubleing her

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:15 pm

Perhaps he's a West Ham supporter?

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:16 pm

Recent for heavens sake.
If you were talking about a golf shot you'd "recently" played and someone asked "when was that then?" and you replied 1998 you'd get laughed at.

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:16 pm

mystiroakey wrote:oh gawdd- i am going to that and all diggs(at the o2)- my mums birthday- she loves him

Sunday the 30 the we are going. I llike him as well to be honest, certainly in the easy to listen to category.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:16 pm

but my best shot was in 98!

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Post by Shotrock Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:17 pm

Kwin - Smile He's one guy that could afford my wife!

Buble - Guilty pleasure - Canadian Crooner ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYe6tmrFxbw

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:18 pm

Diggers wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:oh gawdd- i am going to that and all diggs(at the o2)- my mums birthday- she loves him

Sunday the 30 the we are going. I llike him as well to be honest, certainly in the easy to listen to category.

Isn't he in the Crooning C**t/Housewives Favourite/Pant Wetting Granny genre?
I remember a newspaper headline which was Michael Mooble because he had big Shane Lowry jubblies on the beach.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:22 pm

Good stuff diggs- i am sure i will enjoy him an all- I got dragged to jack Jonhson once which i wasnt looking forward to- ended up loving it!

I used to be a festival goer- used to just love seeing so many bands at once! I think if i went these days- It would kill me!

SR yep thats him- however....... He is a pretty decent singer

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:22 pm

super_realist wrote:
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mystiroakey wrote:oh gawdd- i am going to that and all diggs(at the o2)- my mums birthday- she loves him

Sunday the 30 the we are going. I llike him as well to be honest, certainly in the easy to listen to category.

Isn't he in the Crooning C**t/Housewives Favourite/Pant Wetting Granny genre?
I remember a newspaper headline which was Michael Mooble because he had big Shane Lowry jubblies on the beach.

Sounds like him.
He isnt a Goth so you wouldnt like him. Its pretty clear you wouldnt like anything that a large amount of people enjoy as that wouldnt allow you too feel special and superior.

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:25 pm

I'm not a fan of goth either. I've never heard Buble, but I'm not against a bit of easy listening crooning like Matt Munro, Frank Sinatra or even Harry Connick Jr.

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:26 pm

Worst gig I ever went to was taking my parents to see Daniel O'Donnell, knew I was in trouble when coach loads of pensioners kept turning up in wheelchairs.
Mind you Cliff Richard came on as an unexpected guest star halfway through, Ive never seen a bunch of geriatrics go mental like that, quite scary. Some of them rushed the stage, think my Mum would of as well if we werent on the top tier.

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

super_realist wrote:I'm not a fan of goth either. I've never heard Buble, but I'm not against a bit of easy listening crooning like Matt Munro, Frank Sinatra or even Harry Connick Jr.

Same sort of thing but Id say he's got a better voice than any of those three.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

well then Buble is your man- he sings all that kinda stuff! and well

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

They have to put a load of mattress covers on the ground for Daniel O Donnel concerts.

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:29 pm

Have you got a criminal record madam....
Well I do have a Daniel O'donnell album at home officer.....boom boom

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:29 pm

btw - I love abit of emo(gothy stuff) cough cough as well as loads of other stuff!

anyone want to admit to there guilty pleasure?

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Post by Skydriver Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:34 pm

Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:I'm not a fan of goth either. I've never heard Buble, but I'm not against a bit of easy listening crooning like Matt Munro, Frank Sinatra or even Harry Connick Jr.

Same sort of thing but Id say he's got a better voice than any of those three.

Connick is (or at least used to be) an unbelievable pianist [PIANIST, I said] and also wrote a few of his own songs, so has (or at least had) a bit more to him than crooning. And then he went into acting, and that's pretty much when I lost track of him.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:41 pm

Way to kill a conversation mysti!

come on SR admit you like something lame!!

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:44 pm

Off to see the great Leonard Cohen in his Montreal hometown in a couple of weeks - forty years since I last saw him at the Albert Hall. Hope he survives that long.

JAS,
Collective Soul a bit of a small repertoire for moi, couple of great songs though.

Best show I saw so far this year was Grace Potter opening for a Barack Obama speech. They both rocked the place . . . . . .

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:49 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Way to kill a conversation mysti!

come on SR admit you like something lame!!

He hates himself for liking Radiohead as they are so mainstream.....

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:53 pm

Not a fan of them either Diggers, well a couple of songs. I've actually paid to see them, a bit drab though.


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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:55 pm

super_realist wrote:Not a fan of them either Diggers, well a couple of songs. I've actually paid to see them, a bit drab though.


Too upbeat for you ?

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 3:57 pm

I forgot I'd seen them. So it can't have been that interesting. Interesting golf fact. Thom Yorke grew up in Lundin Links. Former Open qualifying venue.

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Post by Shotrock Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:00 pm

You know who else had a great set of pipes? The lead singer for the Housemartins. I think he/they evolved into the Beautiful South. Another guilty pleasure -- not brown bag guilty mind you.

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:02 pm

Housemartins were much better than TBS.

The Beautiful South played when I was at Uni once, same night my mate was having a party which got a bit out of control. He went into the kitchen to find Paul Heaton (said lead singer of Housemartins/TBS doing the dishes.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:10 pm

yeah the housemartins and beautifull south- love em!

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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:11 pm

Just listened to Old Red Eyes is Back on Youtube. Class

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:14 pm

Im not that big a fan of gigs, would usually rather just listen to the music.
In fact my first gig was probably my best, The Smiths back in about 1983, mental.
Most disapointing probably Elvis Costello, whose music I love, very dull live.
Would have loved to have seen Simon and Garfunkel live, Queen at their peak...before all the I want to break free rubbish...and Nina Simone who apparently was either awful of brilliant depending on how the mood took her.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:17 pm

Yep - Housemartins were good. Thought XTC who overlapped with them a bit and had a similar eclectic and irreverent style, were just that little bit better.
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Post by super_realist Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:18 pm

Making plans for Nigel?

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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:20 pm

Bob, first single I bought was Senses Working Overtime by XTC, as was Sgt Rock.
Couldnt stand TBS but Housemartins did a couple of decent tunes.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:23 pm

super_realist wrote:Making plans for Nigel?

Indeed - my big sister was going out with a Nigel at the time. Oh what fun we had at her expense.
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Post by Diggers Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:26 pm

Bob_the_Job wrote:
super_realist wrote:Making plans for Nigel?

Indeed - my big sister was going out with a Nigel at the time. Oh what fun we had at her expense.

As no doubt Nigel did to..... Whistle


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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:28 pm

Diggers wrote:Bob, first single I bought was Senses Working Overtime by XTC, as was Sgt Rock.
Couldnt stand TBS but Housemartins did a couple of decent tunes.

Two first singles? Smile

I don't think I ever bought a single - couldn't see the point. I was more an album man.

The album version of TBS's Don't Marry Her is quite entertaining.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:28 pm

Diggers wrote:
Bob_the_Job wrote:
super_realist wrote:Making plans for Nigel?

Indeed - my big sister was going out with a Nigel at the time. Oh what fun we had at her expense.

As so doubt Nigel did to..... Whistle

No doubt. Big mistake he made was marrying her.
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Post by mystiroakey Thu 08 Nov 2012, 4:29 pm

the first album i bought was disco pet shop boys- suburbia and west end girls- classic

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