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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 14 Oct 2012, 4:40 pm

Picamoles putting in another strong performance!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 4:45 pm

Easy being a 10 behind Toulouse pack, unreal.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 4:53 pm

Why kick away when chasing?? Crazy. Youngs had to dig for everything but bad call on tap. Toulouse always looked too good up front

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:05 pm

Think Youngs was trying to get things going and forced it a bit too much.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:09 pm

If it comes off he's magic but on hindsight should have took 3. Nasty conditions and getting beat up at breakdown he should have held back.

Toulouse are immense in these conditions, pack is huge.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:22 pm

Sky form Lions team:

1. Sturgess
2. Hibbard
3. Jones
4. AWJ
5. Lawes
6. Johnson
7. Robshaw
8. Easter

9. Marshall
10. Cipriani (?!?!)
11. Zebo
12. Beck
13. JD
14. Cuthbert
15. Halfpenny

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:26 pm

where's that come from Pooly.

Cips was excellent. He, Leota and Willis were superb.

Cuthbert wasn't great except for 3 easy finishes. Thought Mark jennings was more of a threat.

Halfpenny superb.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:28 pm

Sky pundits mark each player after every HC round and these are the top scorers. They had a bit of a chuckle about some selections (Cipriani got the biggest laugh)

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:29 pm

Be interesting to see difference in size between Tigers and Toulouse pack, reckon Tigers could have been heavier, but they missed Salvi on the deck and that;s where things started to go wrong, as Youngs got no protection.

Don't mind that Sky Sports dream team one bit for the Lions! Guessing it is just from this weekend's games? Would have had Hartley in there too, he was great today.

Player of the week for me though is Tom Johnson, he was so good yesterday - was very impressed with him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:35 pm

No where near the Lions but probably the best performance from a 10 this weekend. Easter and Zebo both looked handy

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:47 pm

Cencus Johnson - 138kg
Yohann Maestri - 119kg
Louis Picamoles - 113kg
RMC - 123kg
Steenkamp - 125kg

From Wiki but can't see Tigers getting close to that tbh

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:50 pm

Tigers were apparently 18stone a man in the starting lineup - no idea what that is in kg - though Johnson might make the difference...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 5:52 pm

18st is 114kg

Not quite sure who boosted the average up??? Toulouse front 5 was much heavier, the locks alone average at 121kg, that is mental.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 14 Oct 2012, 6:05 pm

Sky said tigers was heavier. By about 14kg. Reckon there backrow was heavier than Toulouse.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 6:13 pm

Must have been backrow Nick, I think Toulouse were 15kg heavier in engine room alone.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Oct 2012, 6:17 pm

Think Mulipola is about 125kg - he's a big old lump.




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Post by stnick88 Sun 14 Oct 2012, 6:31 pm

Mafi, waldron and crane is a heavy old unit

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:24 pm

Crane is playing really well as well.
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Post by Guest Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:41 pm

Crane for me is so average. Does not carry heavily or dynamically enough, defends ok and does everything else ok.

How he has an England cap is shocking. Good club player that has the luxury of playing behind a pack that generally goes forward

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:47 pm

He's off!!

What do you think of Banahan Matt?

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:48 pm

How amazing is that Toulon squad! It's such a great rugby town on a match day (wouldn't go there any other day as it's rough as anything!).

Hopefully Wilko will have a good run in the HC, would be great to see him get a final swan song on the Lions tour!

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:49 pm

Doesn't have a patch on the Vissmiester
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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 7:57 pm

Johnnie Beattie at 8 for Montpillier , be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Post by stnick88 Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:01 pm

I agree crane seems a bit lumbersome. Good for AP but that's it

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:08 pm

Think he's got a bit more about him than people give him credit for. Got the best hands from the English 8s.

French rugby is so physical , big hits galore.
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Post by stnick88 Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:11 pm

Can't believe no one in this game has Masoe!

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Post by Driver Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:29 pm

Plenty of quality out there

1.Wicus Blaauw
2.Tiaan Lindenberg
3.Charlie Faumuina
4.Brodie Retalick
5.Craig Clarke
6.CJ Stander/Josh Strauss
7.Nick Fenton-Wells
8.Chris Masoe

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10.Ian Keatley
11.Fionn Carr
12.Ben Atiga
13.Marcel Bosh
14.Simon Zebo
15.Robbie Robinson
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:31 pm

Driver wrote:Plenty of quality out there

1.Wicus Blaauw
2.Tiaan Lindenberg
3.Charlie Faumuina
4.Brodie Retalick
5.Craig Clarke
6.CJ Stander/Josh Strauss
7.Nick Fenton-Wells (I released him)
8.Chris Masoe

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10.Ian Keatley
11.Fionn Carr
12.Ben Atiga
13.Marcel Bosh
14.Simon Zebo
15.Robbie Robinson

Already in the game mate lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:34 pm

Bakkies with the show and go lol

D Armitage playing really well, probably still the best English FB when he fancies it.

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Post by stnick88 Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:37 pm

Always been his problem pooly, when he fancies it! But yes I would take him on top form over foden or brown.

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

Marcelo Bosch is a Great 13. Between him Strauss and Masoe in the foreigns for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 14 Oct 2012, 10:05 pm

Loving Homeland, Brodie is a right scum bag

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm

Wishful thinking

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,9817_8139933,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:18 pm

The way he played on Saturday they'd be lucky to beat the woman's side

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:22 pm

I like ford but he is a bit underpowered in the set piece

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:29 pm

There tonight Matt? I've got a free ticket to get rid of!!
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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:30 pm

I am in London until thursday prop. thanks for the offer mate

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 15 Oct 2012, 12:33 pm

I think his scrummaging is pretty good but his lineout throwing is very up and down. I prefer him to Hartley but he's form is patchy

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 15 Oct 2012, 1:17 pm

No worries fella!! If you know of anyone let me know!!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 15 Oct 2012, 2:41 pm

Quick question for Pete. Will we be losing players to internationals played outside the IRB window?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 15 Oct 2012, 3:00 pm

Molenaar vs Burrell tonight at 12........the earth is gonna shake I think!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 15 Oct 2012, 3:41 pm

HC team of the week

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8166580,00.html

Still cant get over how bigger win that was for Sarries. I really fancied edinburgh to get the win and get out of that group.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 15 Oct 2012, 3:43 pm

Very pleased with Borthwicks form as well. he and Botha in great form is good news for me. Easter also doing better than I thought he would.

Fofana made over 100m!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 15 Oct 2012, 3:46 pm

Hayman made 16 tackles! Glad to see him back on form, struggled for his first 18 months for Toulon.

Can't believe Manoa made close to 85metres

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 3:52 pm

Hayman carried quite well also. Looked back on form as did domingo who is a top prop.

great watching steenkamp vs Cole. Steenkamp had the edge but cole did well enough. Cole will develop out of sight over the next few years. he will be a massive asset to england.


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 15 Oct 2012, 4:05 pm

Mat a lot of Leicester fans now put Cole ahead of Castro, not quite sure about that just yet, but it's amazing how much his work in the loose has come on and how good he is at the breakdown.

We've got some great form players coming into the AI's - Cole, Hartley, Lawes, Robshaw, Care, Tuilagi and Ashton! Think we might beat the Aussies and SA this time round!

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 4:09 pm

Castro has lost it a bit, ,mainly in the loose. still quality though. Cole may give a few pens away but he is fantastic in the loose

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 15 Oct 2012, 4:10 pm

Domingo was great on Sat, his best game of season. Scarlets not great in scrum but he was all over the park.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 15 Oct 2012, 4:26 pm

Think this is the first season where quite a few of my players have started on form! Normally at this point half of my players are crocked or suspended! Hopefully Lydiate wont be the first of many this time round!

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

You have some cracking players chris. Mulipola looked out of his depth sunday but lots of the others absolutely firing.

Cant wait to get Gear, Carter and Dagg back

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