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Post by Guest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:26 pm

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The discussion(s) continue here guys.

Unbelievable win for the Canaries tonight which see's Man City top for the first time this season, will they hold on.

QPR - still without a win - look doomed and Aston Villa drop into the bottom 3.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:41 pm

What the hell were Newcastle doing there!?!?!

Offside trap! THEN! Oh dear
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:45 pm

I think United will romp this title and could have it won by 10+ points come May. The race for the Champions League spots will be more interesting.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:45 pm

To think Chris Powell got sent to the stands for asking the ref at half time to explain his decisions in the recent Charlton-Sheff Wednesday match
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:50 pm

Starting to seem as if Mancini was right in the summer to be demanding players, the most crucial time is to spend whilst your on top. And City haven't really done that (still lack a CB imo) and its showing this season
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:52 pm

How crap has Joe Hart been this season? Another dud.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:54 pm

Still a young GK learning his trade. These mistakes will make him a better keeper 5 years down the line
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:02 pm

Well at least Villa put on a better defensive performance today. Only half the goals conceded from the game before
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:03 pm

Olly wrote:Newcastle just far too open

Once scholes had gone off and the rest of the midfield didn't have to cover for him we mauled them, could have got 4 in the last 20 minutes.

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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:03 pm

Olly wrote:Still a young GK learning his trade. These mistakes will make him a better keeper 5 years down the line

I'm not sold on him one bit Olly. He's been given way too much praise way too early and it looks as if he's buying into his own hype.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:04 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:Still a young GK learning his trade. These mistakes will make him a better keeper 5 years down the line

I'm not sold on him one bit Olly. He's been given way too much praise way too early and it looks as if he's buying into his own hype.

That'll be the only thing that'll stop him is arrogance. Nothing wrong with a GK being confident, and he does have the ability, that's undeniable. You gotta remember in GK terms he is still young, a good 10-15 years left in him yet. Still to mature fully
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:05 pm

Mancini wanted reinforcements..... What were Rodwell, Garcia, Maicon, Sinclair and.... Richard Wright?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:07 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Mancini wanted reinforcements..... What were Rodwell, Garcia, Maicon, Sinclair and.... Richard Wright?

I still think Wright is some sort of practical joke! He got rejected by Colchester for god's sake! Laugh

The others seemed like panic buys to me
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:10 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Mancini wanted reinforcements..... What were Rodwell, Garcia, Maicon, Sinclair and.... Richard Wright?

Terrible signings?

Gareth Bale really irritates me.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:11 pm

A Paul Lambert team defending badly. Ah the nostalgia
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:12 pm

God Suarez is a diving Bar Steward isn't he.

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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:13 pm

Olly wrote:A Paul Lambert team defending badly. Ah the nostalgia

Do you miss the great man?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:14 pm

That's a penalty every time though. Shawcross pretty much had his shirt off!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:15 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:A Paul Lambert team defending badly. Ah the nostalgia

Do you miss the great man?

But Holty still plays for us? Wink

Seriously I do miss the gung ho style, but I don't miss the feeling a team is gonna score against us everytime they attack!
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:15 pm

Ent wrote:God Suarez is a diving Bar Steward isn't he.

Ent say something nice about someone or something. I'm beginning to think you belong in the miserable column Laugh


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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:20 pm

Look at him, just kicked the keeper too- he's a muppet.

It was a penalty but being pulled by the shoulder backwards doesn't make you fall forwards hands In the air screaming!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:21 pm

Liverpool just look so impotent in attack at times. Really lack some sort of cutting edge
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:21 pm

Ent wrote:Look at him, just kicked the keeper too- he's a muppet.

It was a penalty but being pulled by the shoulder backwards doesn't make you fall forwards hands In the air screaming!

Laugh True thumbsup
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:24 pm

Rob Green Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:25 pm

The one player who I have seen live this season who has impressed me most is Romelu Lukaku.

That kid is gonna be a heck of a player
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:28 pm

What was ridgewell doing?

I know his hand was there before it was headed and in front of his face and I don't think it was a penalty but I've never seen anyone jump and spin like that - was like ballet or something.


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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:30 pm

I saw lukaku live last season and he was one of
The worst players I've ever seen.

Don't think he would be playing top level if he wasnt an absolute tank, technique is poor IMO, touch lacking. Still very young mind.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:31 pm

When I saw him Ent he looked the real deal! Needs game time for sure to develop.

Worst player I've seen live this season is by far Ronnie Stam. Put in 5 crosses, all 5 went out for goal kicks. Seriously laughable
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:35 pm

He came on as a wide forward at ot last year, blunted their attack, couldn't control the ball, fell over a few times and had no pace from a standing start to beat a man.

Powerhouse and does alright through the middle but more Heskey than drogba for me.

Dear dear refs are getting a hammering today, that Wigan penalty was a cert.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:37 pm

And a handball by Kone for the goal!!

Wigan are going down this year. Can't believe Martinez didn't get out when he had the chance and to be honest I lost a little respect for him because of it. Yes loyalty and all that but showing no ambition for me for his career
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:38 pm

Olly was you at the match today?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:40 pm

FreekShow wrote:Olly was you at the match today?

Indeed. Not one to live long in the memory, only bit of class won the game. Defences on top

And I got soaked to the bone
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:45 pm

A little observation was that clapping for Di Matteo the Chelski fans do wasn't as loud and as forthcoming today as I have seen it on TV.

Very impressed with the way Chelsea defended. Solid
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:45 pm

To be fair he only had an offer from Liverpool who aren't that enticing at the minute, not like he turned down an amazing job.

I like him, since he took over Wigan they've lost:
Kirkland
Heskey
Valencia
Palacios
Rodallega
Diame
Moses
N zogbia

And more, think he's done well though they'll likely go down this year despite him getting kone in.

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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:46 pm

I read a great piece in the Express a couple of weeks back regarding Shearer and his lack of objectivity on MOTD and it's nice to see he's taken no notice whatsoever. Awful punditry week after week.

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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:51 pm

Yeah it's a bit sad on the nations flagship football show there isn't any decent analysis - just well I'm a forward so im siding with the forward etc.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:52 pm

Ent wrote:To be fair he only had an offer from Liverpool who aren't that enticing at the minute, not like he turned down an amazing job.

I like him, since he took over Wigan they've lost:
Kirkland
Heskey
Valencia
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Moses
N zogbia

And more, think he's done well though they'll likely go down this year despite him getting kone in.

I do like him and admire the job he has done but I like to see ambition and two summers in a row he's turned down jobs for a relegation battle. As much as I was disappointed Lambert left I do admire his opportunism and ambition, same with Rodgers (cant stand him though, head is so far up his own arse it comes out his neck again)
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:54 pm

Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:57 pm

Ent wrote:Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

Turned down Villa the summer of 2011 and Liverpool last season. Both much more appealing than Wigan, who he has taken as far as they'll go
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Post by Guest Wed 26 Dec 2012, 11:59 pm

I agree with Ent on Brenda. I bet he pinches himself every night over the fact that he has somehow managed to bag th LFC hot set, no matter what current state the club is in.


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Post by Guest Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:02 am

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

Turned down Villa the summer of 2011 and Liverpool last season. Both much more appealing than Wigan, who he has taken as far as they'll go

Olly I have been with the same company for 18 years. Please don't tell me you think any less of me, it'll break me Crying or Very sad

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:03 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

Turned down Villa the summer of 2011 and Liverpool last season. Both much more appealing than Wigan, who he has taken as far as they'll go

Olly I have been with the same company for 18 years. Please don't tell me you think any less of me, it'll break me Crying or Very sad

It depends. Have you had opportunities to move to bigger companies with bigger upsides for more money?
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Post by Ent Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:04 am

I honestly don't think either of those jobs are that appealing.

No cash to turn the squads round not much talent in the squads either.

Had he knocked back spurs or equivalent I'd have agreed.

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Post by Guest Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:06 am

Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

Turned down Villa the summer of 2011 and Liverpool last season. Both much more appealing than Wigan, who he has taken as far as they'll go

Olly I have been with the same company for 18 years. Please don't tell me you think any less of me, it'll break me Crying or Very sad

It depends. Have you had opportunities to move to bigger companies with bigger upsides for more money?

The grass isn't always greener though my friend. I've done alright over the years kidda, ain't run out of pants yet...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:09 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Well Rodgers is a con man/blagger so he will always move on before he's found out.

What genuinely appealing job has he turned down though?

Liverpool have one good player under 30 and no money.

Turned down Villa the summer of 2011 and Liverpool last season. Both much more appealing than Wigan, who he has taken as far as they'll go

Olly I have been with the same company for 18 years. Please don't tell me you think any less of me, it'll break me Crying or Very sad

It depends. Have you had opportunities to move to bigger companies with bigger upsides for more money?

The grass isn't always greener though my friend. I've done alright over the years kidda, ain't run out of pants yet...

I do agree grass isn't always greener but I like a risk taker. Get outside that comfort zone, push yourself, be the best you can be.
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Post by Ent Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:19 am

Can't be taking risks when you've a mortgage to pay laddie Wink

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:39 am

Ent wrote:Can't be taking risks when you've a mortgage to pay laddie Wink

I'm young. Don't burden me with financial issues yet Laugh
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Post by Ent Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:59 am

Such is life, when you don't have anything you think you'd take risks but when you have something decent you tend to try and hold onto it.

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Post by westisbest Thu 27 Dec 2012, 8:12 am

Olly wrote:Well at least Villa put on a better defensive performance today. Only half the goals conceded from the game before

I think we put the same amount past you recently. Whistle

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 11:03 am

westisbest wrote:
Olly wrote:Well at least Villa put on a better defensive performance today. Only half the goals conceded from the game before

I think we put the same amount past you recently. Whistle

It's ok, don't hurt your neck looking up the table at us Whistle
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Post by westisbest Thu 27 Dec 2012, 11:29 am

I'm more interested in looking down at this stage, seeing who is below us.

Big game sat. Off up to Villa Park saturday morning.

Got to beat Wigan. 6 points ahead if we do.

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