2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 2

by Guest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

The discussion(s) continue here guys.

Unbelievable win for the Canaries tonight which see's Man City top for the first time this season, will they hold on.

QPR - still without a win - look doomed and Aston Villa drop into the bottom 3.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 27 Dec 2012, 11:32 am

You guys will be fine. Lambert will keep you lot up, no worries

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 12:40 pm

I quite fancy us to nick a point today! Cmon you Yellows!

by Guest Sat 29 Dec 2012, 12:44 pm

Think there will be plenty of goals in your game Olly.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 12:58 pm

Might all be for Citeh Laugh

Hoping the Citeh that rocked up and demolished us last season dont turn up and the Citeh that lost to Sunderland do!

by Guest Sat 29 Dec 2012, 1:01 pm

If your boys pepper the City goal with long shots then I'm sure one or two will sneak past Joe Hart such is his form this season.

I'll go with 2-2.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 1:04 pm

Pitch inspection at OT. Must be the usual weather in Manchester!! Wouldn't mind the game being called off at all.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 1:11 pm

WBA too!! Half there first team is out lol

by CFCNick Sat 29 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

Sunderland have scored the first of 48 goals I need to win £760.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 2:15 pm

Van Persie benched Shocked

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 2:25 pm

I'll get in there first: It was neither a dive nor a penalty. There was contact but not enough to warrant a penalty.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 3:04 pm

#PrayForNorwich

by Fernando Sat 29 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

#goalfest

Seems like it could be a good day for goalscoring

by Duty281 Sat 29 Dec 2012, 4:20 pm

Despite being away, Wigan have stuck 3 past Villa already. Massive massive crisis for Villa.

by Guest Sat 29 Dec 2012, 4:52 pm

Duty281 wrote:Despite being away, Wigan have stuck 3 past Villa already. Massive massive crisis for Villa.

It's not just the batterings but the damage on their goal difference also.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 5:32 pm

That was the most inept refereeing performance I have ever seen by a referee. Mike Jones had no control over that game right from when City scored there 2nd and Kompany seemed to foul Johnson in the build up (from where I was sitting, also looked no worse than Bassong's on Nasri so either both are a foul or both are not)

Great game though! I genuinely feared at 2-0 after 4 minutes but we showed great character and grit to come back

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 6:07 pm

Watch the so called, "foul" from which our first goal is scored. Never in a million years.

Pathetic refereeing in general. Mike Jones again. Same guy who did Arsenal-West Brom and who was pathetic when we had him in the Everton-Norwich game earlier in the season.

by Ent Sat 29 Dec 2012, 6:44 pm

United match was shocking, only bit of quality was rvp at the end.

Still another 3 points done and dusted.

by Guest Sat 29 Dec 2012, 6:55 pm

Ent wrote:United match was shocking, only bit of quality was rvp at the end.

Still another 3 points done and dusted.

A clean sheet must be a positive though Ent?

by Ent Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:00 pm

Yeah of course, good to see vidic back with a string performance.

WBA got on too of us very easily in second half and overall the game was scrappy.

God arsenals defense is poor.

by Guest Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:02 pm

What is it with Newcastle and high scoring games? They must have been involved in a dozen + 4-3's over the years.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:04 pm

I think the right decision was made with regards to Van Persie starting on the bench. With the pitch cutting up he could have been injured and we all know how fragile he is. Plus with that rain he could have drowned!! Anyway, Utd played West Brom at the right time with their injuries so that was a good bit of luck.

by Ent Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:05 pm

They can't defend would be the major reason.

by GSC Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:05 pm

Anyone see Wilshere almost die in the first half?

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:06 pm

FreekShow wrote:What is it with Newcastle and high scoring games? They must have been involved in a dozen + 4-3's over the years.

I think they miss Steven Taylor. I think he's a great CB and I wonder where he is these days.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:10 pm

I see Theo's having his "one good game in 10-15" today.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:11 pm

Theo as a striker is a different animal to Theo as a winger

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:13 pm

He could fool people into thinking he's a good player at this rate.

by Ent Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:15 pm

Lazy defending all round here, just not getting into positions to defend crosses.

by Ent Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

Good tactical change by pardew anyway.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:17 pm

I've decided: Walcott reminds me of Nani. Unstoppable on his day but it comes with far too many mediocre (and some downright awful) performances for him to be a great player.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:18 pm

Anything in Arsenal looking a lot sharper in the last 20 mins than Newcastle, nothing to do with them not playing on Boxing Day I'm sure Whistle

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:43 pm

Must say Jonny Howson came on today and changed the game. Real class, I think he's gonna go all the way to the top. Gonna be much too good for us Laugh

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:49 pm

Told you!!

by Duty281 Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:54 pm

Let's get Theo Walcott upfront for En-ger-land!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 7:58 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Told you!!

Telling me he scores screamers for you on FIFA doesn't count Laugh

Only thing about him though is what his best position is. Is it behind the striker, the most attacking of a midfield 3 or part of a midfield 2

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 8:17 pm

Olly wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Told you!!

Telling me he scores screamers for you on FIFA doesn't count

Only thing about him though is what his best position is. Is it behind the striker, the most attacking of a midfield 3 or part of a midfield 2

Either or; probably just behind the striker as I think AM is his best position. And he does score screamers!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 8:30 pm

To be fair our second came from a corner which he forced with a long range drive!!

I would tend to agree but I think he would probably be best being the most attacking of a midfield 3 in the system Liverpool play/Swansea last season.

by The Special Juan Sat 29 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm

More a 4-2-3-1 guy than a 4-4-1-1?

by Lumbering_Jack Sat 29 Dec 2012, 9:36 pm

Absolutely shameful dive again from Bale today. What is worse is the sky pundits saying it is a foul.

Does having the slightest if contact make your leg stiffen up and fall over.

The guy is a blatant cheat and the ref got it spot on.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 29 Dec 2012, 9:41 pm

The Special Juan wrote:More a 4-2-3-1 guy than a 4-4-1-1?

I would say so yes. Maybe more of a 4-5-1/4-3-3 guy imo. Not sure he is suited to the 4-4-1-1 tbh

by Ent Sun 30 Dec 2012, 1:07 am

I know none of us know what it's like to be clipped running at that pace but surely Bale should just stay on his feet?

He has been booked 5 times for diving in 2012 that is damning as players don't get booked 9/10 for dives.

Just seen his interview saying about the contact and whilst it was very slight it was on his thigh - why does that make his foot turn 90 degrees and slide along the ground as he falls forward?

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 30 Dec 2012, 10:49 am

It makes him do that because he is a disgraceful cheat. Running, even at that pace, does not make you fall over when you get the slightest contact.

by Duty281 Sun 30 Dec 2012, 10:58 am

How long before we get a diving committee? Very simple idea, any dive that gets seen via video evidence is an instant 3 match ban.

by Guest Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:02 pm

Well Lampard ain't going out without a fight. Ever the talisman.

by Guest Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:07 pm

still cant believe we lost to reading yesterday picard

by **hampo17** Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:10 pm

Duty281 wrote:How long before we get a diving committee? Very simple idea, any dive that gets seen via video evidence is an instant 3 match ban.

How do you class a dive? Going down with no contact? Or going down when in your opinion a player shouldn't have?

Pundits often make the points that players like Bale, Suarez, Ronaldo can see that a defender is about to tackle them and attempt to ride the tackle before it happens forcing themselves off balance, so when the tackle does arrive any contact just emphasises the lack of balance and stops them being able to regain their feet.

Not saying this was the case yesterday but there is definate contact, I can't say for 100% if you run as fast as those guys how much contact it takes to knock you off balance. Bales problem is he makes his fall look more theatric than needed.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

CF how on earth did Vaz Te miss that header yesterday?!?! Extrordinary!

by Ent Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:19 pm

At the end of the day it is a contact sport, being brushed and going down in a completely unnatural manner is diving.

by **hampo17** Sun 30 Dec 2012, 3:36 pm

Ent wrote:At the end of the day it is a contact sport, being brushed and going down in a completely unnatural manner is diving.

Being quicker than the defender and trying to avoid the tackle, going off balance and then going over from a small amount of contact? Do you consider that diving?

To me that's clever play because if he gets passed the defender he could have a scoring chance if he doesn't and the defender makes contact it's a freekick.

by hodge Sun 30 Dec 2012, 4:16 pm

My view on the Bale incident yesterday, yes there was contact but what Bale says about if theres contact you're not diving is ridiculous, think Bale could have easily stayed on his feet yesterday and thats why it was a dive, if you can stay on your feet and choose to hit the floor, simple.

MOTD highlighted Aguero, chose to stay on his feet to have a shot yesterday when he could have dived, but also his premier league winning goal last season, he was clipped just before he took the shot but stayed on his feet. Exactly how players should be.

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