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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by prop_lyd Thu 20 Dec 2012, 9:55 am

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I think you're pretty safe there Matt, I imagine I'll be capped by the AB's before Percival is capped by Wales Wink

If Howley has any say Percival could have 50 caps by the end of the season!! Glad McBryde is taking us to Japan instead!! There's a couple of lad's down at the Osprey's who are looking pretty handy too.
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Post by Guest Thu 20 Dec 2012, 10:29 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:"Likewise with Percival, until he is actually capped by Wales, he remains qualified to play for England, and so in this game counts as an EQ player."

I think you're pretty safe there Matt, I imagine I'll be capped by the AB's before Percival is capped by Wales Wink

If he continues way he is playing he will be capped. Had huge injury problems but been best second row in prem this year.

Glos rumoured to be after him,Gaskell and parling.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 20 Dec 2012, 10:31 am

His stats are good but most of the best locks have been injured or tied up with Ints.

He's a steady option but not Int class.

Parling will be quality for Gloucester, I think he's class.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Dec 2012, 11:13 am

Any games on tv tonight?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 11:14 am

Ulster v Leinster is on BBC2 NI I think, and possibly Worcester v Welsh is on ESPN.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Dec 2012, 11:20 am

Just found Ulster Leinster, should be a good game.

Worcester v Welsh.....I might avoid

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 11:27 am

I shall be watching the Ulster v Leinster game whilst the wife wraps the kids presents. If she is noce to me I may assist occasionally by pointing out where she is doing it wrong!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Dec 2012, 11:36 am

Haha...nice work, you should text her what she's doing wrong

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Post by stnick88 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 12:28 pm

U reckon this mitchell story is true steve? Leaving in feb?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 1:06 pm

dont think worcester v welsh is on.

Ulster v Leinster should be decent. Both pretty good.

Xmas derby's is when the Rabo gets really interesting!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 1:07 pm

Haven't seen the story nick. What is it?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 1:09 pm

Mitchell has a contract with SuperSport as rugby analyst for their Super Rugby coverage and the contract starts in February, so he could be departing Salford then.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 1:15 pm

ahh right fair enough.

To be honest I haven't got a clue what's happening. It is a shambles. Relegation look likely at the moment unfortunately. Might be best to bounce back a la Quins and Saints. Get our youngsters playing together.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 1:18 pm

To be honest Steve, watching your mob and our mob, it's like they are having a competition to see who can get themselves relegated as opposed to competing to stay up!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:32 pm

Jackson would really want to start working on the old kicking!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:32 pm

Paddy Jackson having a shocker with the boot. Ulster need to get Pienaar kicking before it costs them the game.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:37 pm

Leinster getting done at the scrum big time at the moment

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:37 pm

Afoa just mangled Healy in that scrum!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:38 pm

Pienaar with the 3 points. 6-6

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:38 pm

just simmering nicely this game. Fine scrum from Ulster there. Jackson just an average player all round for me.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:39 pm

Healy does take his share of beatings. Ross missing from the scrum not helping him I don't think.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:44 pm

Bad decision to kick through there from Jackson. He got lucky that the Leinster player carried the ball over.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:46 pm

he did. Avoidable try there for Leinster.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 7:46 pm

Ulster lucky to get that penalty try. Should have been a penalty against Diack who came unbound and dived into Healy.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:15 pm

Leinster really missing Ross, poor Healy is having to take on way too much. Can see the pressure coming through his side.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:46 pm

Tekkers from Pienaar. Take a bow son. SUFTUM!
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Post by Fluxy Fri 21 Dec 2012, 8:57 pm

Damn having work at the last minute. Sounds like a decent game to watch!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Dec 2012, 9:02 pm

Great kick from Pienaar. Henderson & Henry played well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 11:22 am

Are predictions shut at 12?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:30 pm

Do England play full tests in Argentina in the summer?

Been thinking about the young players who should go on the tour.

I'd like to see a side similar to the Saxons myself. See what these players can do. Some senior players will be with the Lions. I expect Corbs, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Wood, Care, Tuilagi, Ashton and Foden to go with the Lions.

1. Marler (Corbs being with Lions)
2. Youngs (Hartley with Lions)
3. Wilson (Cole with Lions)
4. Lawes (Launchbury with Lions)
5. Parling
6. Croft
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan
9. Youngs
10. Burns
11. Wade
12. Twelvetrees
13. Joseph
14. Brown
15. Goode

with young players like Mako, Kruis, Fraser, Kvesic, Garvey etc all touring to see what we have in reserve. Don't want to see the likes of Barritt, Johnson etc to tour.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:37 pm

I imagine a few more of those may be with the Lions too.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:39 pm

Can't see it myself. Forgot Flood who might go along with Sexton and whoever is 10 for Wales during the 6N.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:41 pm

What a bit of work by Hodgson that is. Still the best English 10 for my money.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:43 pm

Youngs will definitely go, I'm 100% on that (barring injury) most on main board have him or Care starting with Phillips also traveling.

Robshaw and Morgan in with big shouts too.

A lot can change though.

Hodgson great at AP level, just has never really transferred it across which is a shame.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:49 pm

I just have this feeling with Robshaw. I think playing at 7 for England will count against him as he isn't a great 7 but he is a fine back rower. I think Gatland will take Warburton, Armitage and SOB as his 7's.

No scrum half is 100% to go. I'd take Phillips, Care and Blair if the tour left tomorrow. Three different types of players and I'm a big Mike Blair fan.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:54 pm

Not even a debate imo, Youngs, Care & Phillips are so far ahead at the minute. Youngs is nailed on.

I'll be very surprised if Armitage goes over Robshaw, Robshaw or neither will go.

Warburton needs to really up his game to be in with a shot. 6N will be massive.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:55 pm

Lads unfortunately I'm gonna resign from the game. Struggling for time these days and I feel I have taken Irish as far as I can! Will still stick around on the homepage for bit of banter and chat. Best of luck to u all for rest of season.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:58 pm

We'll see, but very hard for me to see any of the 9's as nailed on.

Farrell shapes to kick the ball everytime he gets the ball. It is very worrying. Bath's lineout struggling at the Rec. Decent enough game to watch actually.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:06 pm

Sarries whole back 5 are good jumpers, Bath just go to Hooper really. Sarries just putting 2 on Hooper it seems.

Nick....don't go!!!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:18 pm

How do people feel about tactics??

It's not seeming to make a whole lot of diffence in my game with Matt, how do people feel about just sacking them off?

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:42 pm

Think tactics are important Pooly - with Mat he has been playing the same tactics week in week out, so you know exactly how he is going to play. It's similar to you, so if there was one week where you didn't put out your tactics I wouldn't want to mark you down by it at all, as you always make good points etc and I'd imagine most people would know how you'd go out and play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:44 pm

I'm not having a go or anything, It's just shown they arnt that important to some people.

I think I might just sack off reading them and just base predo's on teams, will save some time anyway.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:48 pm

Don't leave nick. Would be a great shame to see you go!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:50 pm

Agree ^^

Bath are rubbish!!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:51 pm

Donald having a stinker!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:52 pm

Agree with Steve there! Be a shame if you left Nick.

And agree with Pooly about Bath - but Sarries are a very good team, got to be best coached team in the AP.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:52 pm

As per norm, such a poor player. Worst AB ever?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:54 pm

Sarries def come into their own in the winter months.

Bath must play well between July & August

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:57 pm

Mitchell on Cips:

"Danny must learn to defend"

Ouch

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