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Post by GSC Wed 19 Dec 2012, 10:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

To fill the void of NFL chatter between Tuesday and Sunday.

BLACK MONDAY
Andy Reid, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, Pat Shurmur, Chan Gailey, Romeo Crennel and Ken Whisenhunt all fired as HCs
Mike Tannenbaum, Gene Smith, Tom Heckert, Rod Graves and A.J Smith fired as GMs

Kansas City hire Andy Reid
Buffalo hire Doug Marrone
Cleveland hire Rob Chudzinski
San Diego hire Mike McCoy
Chicago hire Marc Trestman
Philadelphia hire Chip Kelly
Jacksonville hire Gus Bradley
Arizona hire Bruce Arians


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Post by GSC Tue 15 Jan 2013, 5:03 pm

Sounds like Philly and Chicago HC announcements aren't miles away.

Leaves Jacksonville.
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Post by Derbyblue Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:32 pm

Cleveland Browns have officially sold naming rights to the stadium, so goodbye Cleveland Browns Stadium and hello First Energy Stadium.

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Post by GSC Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:37 pm

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First Energy. Fourth place. RT @MaryKayCabot: It's officially First Energy Stadium, Home of the Cleveland Browns.

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Post by Number-25 Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:41 pm

First Energy Stadium...... dear oh dear. I love many things about the NFL but the stadium naming rights thing and the naff names it leads to is something I struggle to get on board with. I include the Redskins own FedEx Field in that. Where's the mistique in being named after a parcel delivery company??? Banks, phone companies, energy companies, food companies etc are all just as bad.

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Post by Derbyblue Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:36 pm

I'm sure they will come up with many "inventive" headlines now for how the Browns play along the lines of "Electric performance at First Energy Stadium". Not a great name for a stadium but they'll all take money over a name, Haslam has also said they've notified the League that they may want to change uniforms but that can't happen until 2014, and won't change helmets.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:38 pm

Will the uniforms be in the style of the duracell buny?
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Post by GSC Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:39 pm

Theyve also said no cheerleaders
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Post by GSC Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:43 pm

John Fox and Mike McCarthy will coach the pro bowl I think
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Post by Derbyblue Tue 15 Jan 2013, 10:49 pm

Not sure if anyone cares too much but:
@AlbertBreer
And here are the tenders for RFAs ... High tender is $2.879M (1st-Rd comp); Next is $2.023M (2nd-Rd comp); Then $1.323M (original draft rd).

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 15 Jan 2013, 11:23 pm

Anyone remember some of the old madden stadium names after a few years of franchise?
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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 8:12 am

Bears have hired Marc Trestman as HC
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Post by Skyforger Wed 16 Jan 2013, 2:26 pm

GSC wrote:Theyve also said no cheerleaders

Are they mad?! Headscratch


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Post by sodhat Wed 16 Jan 2013, 2:52 pm

cherriesfna wrote:Anyone remember some of the old madden stadium names after a few years of franchise?

I swear there was a Preparation H Arena.

It was either Madden or BASEketball, I can't remember...

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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

Chip Kelly is coming to the NFL after all, as HC of the Eagles.

Lmao Joe Banner
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Post by Number-25 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:24 pm

GSC wrote:Chip Kelly is coming to the NFL after all, as HC of the Eagles.

Lmao Joe Banner

Uh oh, just saw this on NFL.com. You won't be too happy with that news?

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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:30 pm

I liked Bradley and Lovie. But I can deal with Chip over Billick or Whis.

Important he gets a good staff around him. He'll also adapt his offense to his personnel.
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Post by Number-25 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

Talking of personnel, Will be fascinated to see what he does at QB.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

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Perhaps Gus Bradley and Darrell Bevell will now compete for the Jags' HC job. Winner returns to Seattle.

Laugh
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Post by Number-25 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:49 pm

Laugh

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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:58 pm

The Patriots had the fastest time per play in the NFL this season at 24.9 seconds. Under Chip Kelly- Oregon was 20.9. That's fast.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:27 pm

Does Vick now have a future with the Eagles?
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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:28 pm

No. He earns 15m, and Chip Kelly isn't going to run the exact same offense as he did in college. He knows it wont fly in the NFL.
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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:29 pm

How do you like the no huddle offense the Pats ran this year Olly?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:31 pm

GSC wrote:How do you like the no huddle offense the Pats ran this year Olly?

I like it a lot. I think Brady is very clever when he uses it though. If he doesn't like the matchups he sees he'll go into the huddle, but if he sees matchups he can take advantages of (ie. not enough DB's on the field he'll throw, too many DB's he'll run it) he'll use it a lot. The quick snap count is also a big factor.

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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:32 pm

Cool, since Belichick got it from Kelly. And I don't think Brady runs the zone read very often. The guys adapts his offense, they Eagles hired him because of his leadership and ability to build a program, not because he had a gimmicky offensive system
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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:34 pm

And we're going to a 3-4 apparently, so Star makes a ton of sense since we don't have a NT
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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 7:38 pm

Got to say also, after the beating in the media Howie Roseman took, from an anonymous source that may or may not have been Joe Banner, he landed the guy Banner couldn't. This might feel a little bit sweeter to him.
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Post by BamBam Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:16 pm

GSC wrote:And we're going to a 3-4 apparently, so Star makes a ton of sense since we don't have a NT

You also don't have any obvious 3-4 pass rushers do you? Cole is definitely a DE, doesn't seem a great fit for the 3-4 roster wise

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Post by GSC Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:18 pm

Cole was drafted as a linebacker. Graham was touted as a 3-4 convert prospect tbf. Few conversions to be made, but its been done
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Post by BamBam Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:25 pm

Had forgotten about Graham, he was quite highly touted during draft build up that year. Didn't know about Cole, so will take your word for it

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Post by BamBam Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:29 pm

That is unbelievable if true Olly, what the hell is wrong with the world

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Post by Derbyblue Thu 17 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm

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Filed to ESPN: Former Seahawks DC Gus Bradley has accepted the head coaching job with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jan 2013, 12:51 pm

All aboard the Gus Bus!
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 17 Jan 2013, 1:03 pm

didnt want him anyways raspberry
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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 1:21 pm

Good hire
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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 7:10 pm

Means little in the long run, but impressive opening from Kelly in his press conference.

Offense will be personnel driven rather than just a spread option.

Hasnt decided on 3-4 4-3 yet.
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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 7:10 pm

Reid sold him on the Eagles job and texted him congrats last night
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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 7:37 pm

Ken Whisenhunt the new OC in SD
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Post by twelve283 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 8:49 pm

GSC wrote:Means little in the long run, but impressive opening from Kelly in his press conference.

Offense will be personnel driven rather than just a spread option.

Hasnt decided on 3-4 4-3 yet.
Makes a nice change - a new coach going into a job without having things set in stone e.g. 34 over 43. At least that's what he says. In any case teams run in sub like 60% of the time.

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 8:50 pm

All things considered I think its probably a 3-4. Would depend on the coordinator he could get I imagine.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:09 pm

GSC wrote:Bears have hired Marc Trestman as HC

I'm not a fan of this appointment.
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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:10 pm

No I'm not either. Smacks of Emery trying to be the smartest guy in the room, and get that outside the box guy.

Hasn't coached in the NFL for over 10 years. Couldn't even get a college HC job so went to Canada.
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Post by Bull Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:11 pm

yeah agree really hope this risk pays off

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:17 pm

Rumor has it he wants to take Tebow to Chicago.

Meant to be a QB guru, coached Osweiler, Weeden, Clausen, Campbell, and Tebow himself. Nice stuff
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Post by Bull Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:18 pm

You cant drop Jay!

though i do like tebow(would make a good back up)

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Post by Thomond Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:54 pm

Tebow is shoite and always will be as a QB, a transition to another position probably wonuldn't be too easy either, it's hard to be a read option QB as Tebow was for a good bit down last season's strtch if you can't throw the ball.

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Post by mikeygnfl Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:13 pm

I think at the moment, if you take Tebow as a QB, he has to start otherwise the circus will just undermine the starting QB like Sanchez. The Bears would just turn into this years Jets.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:16 pm

Mikey... go draft someone on the other part of the forum... then I can Smile

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Post by BamBam Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:18 pm

Yeah Mikey, you'll be doing Bull a great service by preventing him from wetting himself

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:20 pm

I saw NFLN with a segment where Casserley endorsed Tebow to Philly

Made me sad Sad

His style only really works if he plays the whole game and wears down a D.
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