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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:33 pm

No you can't as you have marked the position. Can't see vid as on a train. If a player is next to lineout you can't take quick one.

Ref standard in league is poor. Rose today awful
As always at glos. if he was white he would not
Be a prem ref. Rfu fast tracked him as they stated years ago. They have done the same with a female ref and did
It with Wayne Barnes when he was 13.

Jp Doyle rose small and rowden terrible even at local level

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:34 pm

It was an ironic post relating to how people are constantly bigging up their own players. My comedy wasted here clearly...

I think both Sheridan and Wilko are top three form wise in their respective positions. I would take both comfortably.

Think your assessments were accurate matt, although Parlings carrying has improved over the last 12 months.

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:37 pm

Sorry Luke irony escaped me after today's performance. It read weird for you which was why I commented.

Agree with you re them players and form.

I may big up Donald and saull later just for pooly. He can then extol the virtues of Lowe and Benjamin as top starters !!!

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:39 pm

I am big Sheridan fan and would love to see him back. Side lacks experience and he is proven and in form. Living 40 minutes away in France should not exclude him

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Post by Driver Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:41 pm

Played 12 today first 80 mins since november 2011 due to injuries.

Body in bits
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:57 pm

Chris...no you wouldn't.

Matt, I'd knock you current England starters but can see you don't have any lol Wink

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:07 pm

Sorry if it comes across that I big up my players from time to time, really only speaking as an England rugby fan and what I'd like to see for England.

Cheers for the rule clarity Mat, we had the worst official going today, made so many howlers, but he did used to play for the club we were playing against. Pretty much explains it!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:10 pm

Time and again!!! Lol

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:31 pm

Think it's only my English though... it would never really be a forward that I big up, am certain of that (apart from Billy V, Lawes and Launchbury, and Hartley and Mako - but all English so that is ok). Oh and Leigh Halfpenny as a non-English, but he's great.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:33 pm

Haha...we all do it in some way

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:52 pm

Just won our local derby and are now clear at the top by 6 points!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:30 pm

Not good for Corbs:

http://www.sarugby.com/news.cfm?newsid=21863

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:30 pm

Do you get promoted to an English league Prop Wink

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Corbs massively missed.Lahiff bullied knight first 3 scrums today then knight realised Lahiff has no technique then butchered him.

Scrums such a problem. 10 pens at least today and umpteen restarts due to rose. Irish th was all over gaff more so when Paice come off for lawson who is poor.

They then bought havelatu on and via random penalty lottery at scrum got one in front of posts.

Shingler was great at 12 today played a controlling kicking distribution role. Proper player

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:35 pm

Feck off pooly, any welsh side would beat you up
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:40 pm

To be fair we used to go on tour to northeast as it would be an easy game when playing lashed even if you played one of better teams. It's not rugby country,

Mates who play football say its the opposite and even pub teams in northeast are as good as decent teams down here. Northeast proper football daft !

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:53 pm

Haha....lad from Swansea at work got beat by 3 Geordie lasses man!!!

Soft you welsh lot Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:11 pm

Come down to us then pooly
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:32 pm

It can be a backwards off!!'

Geordies and Wales have more women who fight then anywhere else.

Prop will back me up about Cardiff on a Saturday night when the valleys come down to party.

Tough women with looks to match !!!

They have good technique lol

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Post by prop_lyd Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:35 am

Aye, although Swansea's a lot worse!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:40 am

Down wine st in Swansea you see some properly predatory trolls

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:50 am

George Ford to Bath

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2257742/George-Ford-leave-Leicester-join-Bath.html

That's his career down the pan then

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:52 am

article says Bath have already signed JJ.

Think it would be a good move, unsure why you see that move as his career down the pan to be honest pooly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:55 am

Who develops at Bath??

They just seem to be constantly poor no matter who they bring in. Must be the leagues biggest spenders??

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Can't build a team over night gold is a top coach and will sort bath out.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:44 pm

Hate to keep running refs down but it is the same offenders time and again. Andrew small has no idea about breakdown and let's everything become a mess.

You don't get it with Owens Barnes and other decent refs

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Post by Driver Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:46 pm

Ashley Johnson's hands are shocking. Wasps play some lovely phases mind.
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Post by Driver Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:48 pm

Great finish from Wade.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:51 pm

very concerning

http://www.lawrencejones.eu/search-marketing/2012/12/16/swimming-with-sharks/

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:36 pm

Worrying times for sale. A few other club may be in same position

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Could still play at Heywood road if relegated so would have a season to find a suitable ground.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:41 pm

presuming we bounded straight back up

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:13 pm

I love Haywood road. Used to be a great away day and then out in Manchester

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Post by Driver Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:22 pm

Is Heywood where Sale FC play there games? Sure i'v seen them in the same sentence.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:36 pm

League table updated. Bit of a bun fight developing in the middle with 4 teams separated by a point!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:39 pm

I am on the move up!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:58 pm

Just got back from the Wasps game - Andrew Small what on earth! He was trying to do his best impression of JP Doyle. Really good game to watch, amazed at how good Louw is for Bath, was killing so much quick ball.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:28 am

So much for Ford joining Bath

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9784379/Bath-coach-Toby-Booth-denies-that-Leicester-fly-half-George-Ford-will-be-joining-the-club.html

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Post by stnick88 Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:41 am

when does a coach ever admit to signing a player until the deal is done though.

Gold has denied JJ is joining them but I bet it is announced soon.

I thought Bath were pretty dreadful yday, especially 2nd half. seem to have no game plan or creativity, apart from the odd Abendanon break.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:45 am

Yea Ford must be about done for a big story like that to come out.

Poor team Bath, Gold plays a very forward based type of game and goes from there. Problem is the Bath pack never rarely get control of a game.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:59 am

Their pack isnt good enough to have forward dominance. Its probably one of the weakest in the AP thinking about it. Apart from Louw who is immense.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:43 am

Louw is such a great player - have never seen him live before and his workrate is exceptional and does so much around the pitch.

Bath are an odd team as they obviously have a lot of financial backing behind them, but the team just doesnt click, Wasps really should have got 4 tries yesterday and won by a lot more with that second half performance.

Wonder if Wade will get the England call up.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:50 am

Wade should be there or there abouts. I'd love to see May but he seems a bit injury prone.

See Wasps have had some money issues again Chris.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:12 am

Yeah its only £2million this time...

The club made a massive balls up after we won the Heineken Cup and all those leagues when we had Dallagio, Lewsey and everyone. We failed to do any marketing as we could have become a massive club, but the move to Wycombe really cost us.

We do well with the St George's Day game now and we've got a lot better in the last 12months at getting people to Adam's Park, but thats most likely due to actually playing decent rugby now and winning games.

Sarries must be losing a whole lot more than us, but they've got massive backers - is it only Saints, Exeter and Tigers that make a profit?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:23 am

Think Glos did too

Anyone else read about Fourie probably having to go back to S.A after not getting a visa?
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Post by stnick88 Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:28 am

Yeh poor bloke. Being deported!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:33 am

Heineken Cup opposition teams are done.

For the new guys, it's 7 EQ starters in European games and if you have anyone in your squad who plays for your opponent in real life, you cannot include them in your team.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:12 pm

Amlin opponents teams are up now as well.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:08 pm

Foden's opening for England?

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3823_8384686,00.html

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:30 pm

Be nice to have a strike runner at 15. For all the undoubted qualities of brown and Goode you get the feeling the only potential top international in the bunch is foden.

Offers such pace dynamism and Is a good defender

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