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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 02 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

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Breaking News: Pooly quits as Falcons boss after their first home defeat for 2 years, paving the way for a shock return to the Premiership for former Exeter Chiefs, London Welsh and Saracens head coach Driver, who takes charge at Kingston Park.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:52 pm

Certainly not going lateral

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:53 pm

He's that hard he tackles posts! No wonder Ford isn't up for the battle

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:58 pm

Haha, maybe that's why he goes lateral!

Really hit that with some speed too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:59 pm

England injury news is bleak...

Corbs - possibly out till April/May, rumours he's to convert to TH to ease troubled knee
TJ - Out of 6N
Tuilagi - light training but 50/50 if will be fit for 6N. Rumours Farrell to 13 and Flood to 10 with JJ out of form
Burns - Out min 3 weeks

On the plus.....Alex Goode likely to retain FB berth and will turn out for Sarries this weekend

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Post by Driver Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:04 pm

Anyone see the Hazard kick there? Just boots the ball boy in the ribs? Disgusting.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:05 pm

Corbs can't be older than 23/24 and has all those troubles already. Poor bloke.

I do like TJ as a player, but don't think he's physical enough for international, not sure if we will see him in a match day 23 again for England.

Especially given what Rowntree has come out and said re physicality and wanting England to scare other teams

http://play.buto.tv/BxwP5

Great coach Rowntree, really like him.

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Post by Driver Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:08 pm

So england could line up

1.Marler
2.Youngs
3.Cole
4.Launchbury
5.Parling
6.Wood
7.Robshaw
8.Morgan

9.Youngs
10.Flood
11.Ashton
12.Barritt
13.Farrell/Tomkins (Could happen if manu doesn't make it , go forbid)
14.Foden
15.Goode.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:09 pm

"I do like TJ as a player, but don't think he's physical enough for international, not sure if we will see him in a match day 23 again for England"

I was just thinking that earlier.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:11 pm

I really hope we never see a Barritt/Farrell midfield combo, it's bad enough we select Farrell at 10. Slowest 13 ever for England??

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Post by Driver Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:14 pm

I'd take a risk and play someone like May at 13 against the sweaties for the opening game. Defend with Foden at 13 though and May on the wing.
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Post by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:15 pm

That hazard thing is nonsense. The little maggot ball boy is lying on the ball he taps the lad who then acts like he has been shot. That is why I often hate football.

Why was the lad acting and why could the ref not show common sense.

That little lad should be banned from being a ball boy and Swansea fined for
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Post by Fluxy Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:16 pm

Anyone interested in Priestland?

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:19 pm

Pooly, please let us not agree on something! The world could end.

You'd imagine they would have to play an out and out outside centre at 13 at international level, Sarries get away with it in the AP and some European games and would probably be able to do that against Scotland and Italy but any other and we'd get shown up massively.

Hope Tuilagi is fit - got to keep Farrell in starting line up against the Jocks as his kicking will win us the game for sure. Think Lancaster said last week that there was only 4 points or so that have decided the last 5 England v Scotland games.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:20 pm

Apparently the ball boy had been tweeting during the game too that he was going to time waste if he could for Swansea to go through!

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Post by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:24 pm

The ball boy will probably end up a steroid abusing lad like the rest of the Swansea natives so throw the book at him

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:35 pm

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:14 am

Interestingly no May in the Saxons match day 23, don't think he is injured?

England Saxons

15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps)
14 Christian Wade (London Wasps)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
1 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton Saints)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers)
5 George Robson (Harlequins)
6 George Kruis (Saracens)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens)
8 Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers, captain)

Replacements:

16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins)
17 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
18 Shaun Knight (Gloucester Rugby)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:15 am

Hazard should of booted him harder. little mug.

JJ isnt that off form, still looking dangerous, much rather have him at 13 than farrell! Need some pace.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:21 am

ERC European Player of the Year 2013 Longlist
(Based on performances in the pool stages)



Steffon Armitage (Toulon)
Rory Best (Ulster)
Julien Bonnaire (Clermont)
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
Wesley Fofana (Clermont)
Mamuka Gorgodze (Montpellier)
Charlie Hodgson ((Saracens)
James Johnston (Harlequins)
Joe Launchbury (London Wasps)
Morgan Parra (Clermont)
Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers)
Ruan Pienaar (Ulster)
Simon Zebo (Munster)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:42 am

Tomkins aside probably the best Saxons team available.

Throw May in for Biggs & Lowe in for Tomkins and it's a serious side.

Unsure of Ford at FH but he needs game time I guess, certainly not there on merit.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:54 am

Ok, so for London Irish in this game, I am looking at their squad and thinking they need to ship out an outside centre and a full back and bring in an inside centre and a winger (preferably English). Also looking for a utility back row.
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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:11 am

Hill has confirmed Mullan is set to leave Warriors. Wonder where he will go?

Tigers surely favourites. Like to think we are looking at him as a replacement for Corbs but doubt it very much.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:15 am

Would be a great signing for us, but I suspect that most of Brian Smith's scouting will be abroad.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:27 am

Tigers have been after Mullen for a long time. Him and Kvesic going there are big rumours.

Pete, if you want to bid on Irish players I don't mind negotiating.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:37 am

That would be two huge losses for Worcester.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:39 am

I think Goode may be off too

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm

Wonder where he will go.

Saints announce signing of Fotuali'i. Very good signing. They still need a good fly half though.

Corbs and Kahn must take up a huge chunk of their budget.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:55 pm

I imagine Mujati & Tiny were on hefty wages, they'll get a chunk of the RFU for Corbs too.

Where does Lee Dickson go from here then??

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm

To Bath...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 12:58 pm

Would make sense, he can't warm the bench if he wants to stay in touch of EPS

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:01 pm

True pooly

Don't know if Dickson is out of contract, but Bath seemed to be link to every single player who is.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:27 pm

Rumours we're chasing Zach Guildford!

Great player but.........take a lad with a party/drinking issue and plump him near one of the biggest drinking cities in the UK RedWine

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Post by Driver Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:30 pm

Honestly think Deano would let him get away with going to Riverside every weekend lol?

I knew they where after a big signing.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10861137&ref=rss
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Post by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:31 pm

Wonder if nz Rfu will lose patience with Guildford and make him seek a contract abroad.

Can't see him signing for Falcons. Merits a bigger club. He would be murder down big market

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Post by Driver Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:32 pm

Peter Russell is his top mate , the Falcons backs coach.

And Kurdi (Falcons Owner) has pockets lined with cash.
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Post by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

Depends if he is devoid of ambition or not really. It would be a backward step that's for sure

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Post by Driver Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:43 pm

I'd say he's pretty ambitious and Falcons are a pretty ambitious club now.

Target is the premiership title in the next 5 years.
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Post by Driver Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10861203

Sonny Bill!

Yahoo
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 24 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

Screws O's over with him leaving, rhys webb has been struggling, maybe line up for a Phillips return?

Think Dickson will do well @ Bath, seeing as claasen's is going they'll need someone like him to come in.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 2:25 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Depends if he is devoid of ambition or not really. It would be a backward step that's for sure

At the minute yea as we're nowhere. Next few season could be interesting though. We've always had the odd big player Burke, Hayman etc. Its no different to that really, both Burke & Hayman were bigger names.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 2:39 pm

Russell has publicly came out and said we'd be interested.

It's a pretty wild rumour as on form he's a top top winger but we have cash he's a bit of a problem child. Russell has great links back in NZ and if he can sell the club it could be a go'er.

Be very happy with a back 3 of:

11. Guildford
15. Gopperth
14. Fielden

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Post by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 2:41 pm

Hayman was an unbelievable signing as he was at peak. Burke was on the wain but excellent.

Hope Guildford does not go as he has more to offern internationally and is only 23

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 2:46 pm

I doubt he will but we can all dream

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

still think Joseph fits in at 13 if Manu is injured.

9. Care/Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Brown
12. Barritt
13. JJ
14. Ashton
15. Foden

to me has an excellent balance to it. Slight lack of kicking perhaps

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:43 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Foden
12. Barritt
13. JJ
14. Ashton
15. Goode


That'll will be the lineup if JJ starts

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:44 pm

Is Brown injured?

or has everyone on here just forgotten his performances in the AI's?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:21 pm

He was good but I think Foden is the better player on the wing, I'm not sure SL fancies Brown but maybe wrong.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:25 pm

Reckon he does myself. Happy to shift Foden out of his best position to play him in SA.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:30 pm

Was that because Monye was injured?

That's why I think he likes Foden better on the wing. Goode likely to keep FB and Foden the more comfortable wing. Brown to bench.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:33 pm

Perhaps. Brown without doubt our most dangerous back in the AI's so very tough to drop him. His consistency deserves it.

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