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Post by msp83 Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:52 pm

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The first of the 5 match ODI series between India and England will be played at Rajkot tomorrow at the Saurashtra Cricket Association stadium.
England will be on a high after their test series win last month. They are the top ranked ODI side in the world and had a fine 2012 in a format where they struggled in the past.
With Kevin Pietersen back after all those issues, the batting is further strengthened. Ian Bell who struggled big during the test series has found some form in the warm up matches and captain Alastair Cook is in the form of his life and has a special place in his heart for Indian bowling.
As far as the playing side goes, Cook, Bell, Pietersen and Morgan pick themselves. Craig Kieswetter should be the favorite to start the series with the gloves, but Jos Buttler's explosive batting might see him being picked. Samit Patel's handy 2nd string and the fact that he's a spinner might see him being picked at 7. In the bowling department, Steven Finn picks himself, and as Graeme Swann is rested, James Tredwell should be the first choice spinner. Jade Dernbach's experience and his decent showing in the warm ups might see him being picked over Stuart Meaker.
As far as India are concerned, they'll be going into the series under a lot of pressure having lost the home test series as well as a home ODI series against Pakistan. The process of change started with the axing of Zaheer Khan from the test side and his continued non-selection in the limited over squads. Now for this series, the underperforming opener Virender Sehwag found himself axed and Cheteshwar Pujara's selection is not just recognition of his performances, but also a notice to struggling opener gautam Gambhir. Gambhir might get to start series though, and Ajinkya Rahane should now get a run in the side. The middle order picks itself with Kohli, Yuvraj,Dhoni, Raina and Ravindra Jadeja as the all-rounder. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, R Ashwin, Ishant Sharma and the youngster Shami Ahmed should form the bowling unit.
This is the first international game at the SCA stadium. When the domestic Challenger Trophy was played, the BCCI had to ask for an explanation as to why did the batsmen had it all very easy out there on the track.
The 12 PM start should ensure the dew factor won't have too much of a say.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:04 am

Gerry SA wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:2 wickets down- england take the upper hand...

was suprised to see india favs on sky bet before the 2nd wicket!!
I guess failing to defend 290 odd vs Delhi may have influenced the odds.


well i am happy because i took england at 2.1.. at the time india were 1.67..

the odds have completly mirrored themselves now..

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:05 am

Great name too...he could set up his own show company:

"Tread well with Tredwell shoes"

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Post by Gerry SA Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:05 am

Ajinkya Rahane has got to be up there as one of the biggest hype jobs in Indian cricket.

We keep hearing he's a run machine etc but all he seems capable at international level is nice looking 20s 30s and 40s. After 14 ODIs he averages below 30, hardly the superstar we are led to believe he is.

Most incredibly someone like Pujara, has the 2nd highest List A average off all time, can't get a game...

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:14 am

Went away for 15 minutes, Gautam Gambhir scored his 50 and went on to throw it away with another poor stroke. But well bowled from Tredwell again.
Yuvraj playing his shots, but he hasn't looked entirely convincing in my view. Kohli had a poor series against Pakistan, he needs to find his touch here if India have to have any chance here.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:16 am

Yuraj and kohli are the worrying pair for me!! and there are in. This game could be a thriller.. India have stayed in touch of englands scoring.,

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:17 am

England need to give Finn a quick burst around the wicket at Yuvraj.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 am

England are very much in charge now, The runs were not coming easily, and now the big wicket of Kohli. Bresnan gets the wicket.
Hope MSD promotes himself up the order.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:29 am

India start was good but Tredwell and Root pegged them back rather well...and now Bresnan has struck a big blow with the wicket of Kohli.
I'm not assuming anything with Yuvraj in and Dhoni to come , but I'd rather have England's position right now.
Like the way Cook is manipulating his attack...wonder when (if ?) Patel will be introduced ...

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:30 am

Yuvraj top edges Bresnan for 6. What are those bloody bats made of??? Bats these days come with edges from which you can middle the ball!.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:32 am

root looks like a half decent bowl option!

great figures!!

yes its a bit early to say but do we have our new collingwood!!

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:32 am

Root has done a fabulous job for his captain here. Nothing too fancied, but keeping it on a good line and crucially he he stuck to a good length as well. The weaklink is proving to be their strength.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:33 am

Recall a few negative comments about Root saying he was working on his bowling a few weeks back...seems to be paying off ! Got him in this ODI side apparently as an all rounder , and now seven overs for just 28...
Quite impressive in all aspects , so far in his brief International career clap

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:34 am

Dernbach continues to struggle, giving away easy runs here.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:35 am

dernbach is getting smashed.. Cook dont put him back on!

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Post by VTR Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:40 am

Dernbach! Can be good but just too inconsistent for my liking. Surely he needs to be dropped for good fairly soon. The Ravi Bopara of bowling.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:41 am

so key wicket is clearly Yurvaj...

Playing fine stuff..

Come on England...



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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:45 am

50 for Yuvraj Singh.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:47 am

Yuvraj got things moving again there ... Smile Hard to keep him quiet for long .

Tredwell back. Good.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:52 am

ThinkCook iv overbowling Root here, at the end of the day he's a parttimer, and for a parttimer he did a fabulous job. Now the inconsistencies are coming in perhaps he should think of Samit, or bring Finn back on for an over or 2.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:58 am

Samit Patel on now. A bit of a chance against 2 lefties, but if he can keep it quiet for a couple of overs, that would be a job well done.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:58 am

msp83 wrote:ThinkCook iv overbowling Root here, at the end of the day he's a parttimer, and for a parttimer he did a fabulous job. Now the inconsistencies are coming in perhaps he should think of Samit, or bring Finn back on for an over or 2.

Tend to agree. Would have been no harm in keeping his remaining overs up the sleeve and at least trying Patel - rather looks as if he isn't going to bowl at all now...oh no , here he is Smile

This flurry of runs has put India in front , but a wicket would change that.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:03 am

...and here is the wicket ! Tredwell takes his third , the danger man gone for a fine 61...

Well played Yuvraj , but that puts pressure back on India...Dhoni now the key.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:03 am

There is the big wicket for England, Yuvraj Gone, Tredwell with the wicket, 198-4. Think India's chances have taken a huge hit although Dhoni is the next man in.

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Post by liverbnz Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:05 am

Wicket for Tredwell. Danger man Yuvraj gone sweeping. Should be game, set now.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:06 am

Yuvraj in that batting powerplay could have been very distructive. Dhoni these days is a slow starter. A very timely wicket indeed for England.

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Post by VTR Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:07 am

liverbnz wrote:Wicket for Tredwell. Danger man Yuvraj gone sweeping. Should be game, set now.

Dhoni the master finisher is coming in next. Far from over!

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:07 am

Man of the match is going to be difficult. No performance really stands out at the moment particularly if England go on to win.

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Post by dummy_half Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:11 am

Big last 3 or 4 overs from England to turn the momentum of the match - looked to be running away from us until Tredwell and Patel slowed the runs and then Tredders got his wicket. Definitely back in the hunt now, although Dhoni can change that very quickly if he gets going.


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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:11 am

This powerplay is a huge moment in this game. If India have a good powerplay they'll be in front. Powerplays usually brings wickets as well, if England get one more soon, they would be very much in charge.
Finn hasn't starded off well for England.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:14 am

Patel really has to prove he has what it takes with the ball. It's past time son.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:16 am

None of the seamers have been able to keep the lid on today. Just hope for a wicket in this power play and then get the spinners back on...

...nearly a wicket then , though Morgan did well just to stop that !

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:20 am

required rate is pushing toward 9 ....dhoni struggling to get going..very much in the balance but India have plenty of firepower left

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 am

The Indian captain is struggling to get going. The RRR is going up all the while. England in charge.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:23 am

Jadeja is not the best option for firepower at 7, Dhoni and Raina will have to do much of the job. A wicket here, that will be game over for India.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:23 am

Yes , nine per over can very well be done , especially with a pair like this at the crease...but if one or two wickets fall it gets a bit tricky...

Much better last over from Finn.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:24 am

Ooh, Raina very nearly gives it away. Just short of captain Cook.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:25 am

India really need to make more of the PP...another near chance there

On this pitch though its well doable, if Patel can score at 13 an over Dhoni can too. England only have one proper spinner over left, and the seamers have all struggled in this game

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:26 am

Much needed boundary there.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:27 am

And another, the last 2 balls messing up what was turning out to be a good over.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:27 am

This power play has swung back England's way after an explosive start...

...but as I type two successive boundaries ...bad finish from Dernbach.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 am

Indias only 1 run behind where england were at this point

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Post by dummy_half Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 am

So 98 needed in the last 11 overs - just swinging back India's way again.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 am

Brenan makes Finns figures look a lot better with a Collingwood there

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:31 am

Dernback has been pants
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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:32 am

That looks like a clean catch, Raina, last ball of the powerplay, Bresnan, think he has taken it, will be a huge setback for India.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:33 am

argg thats a drop.. ul bresn

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:33 am

No, Raina gets away with it, Bresnan seems to have grounded it. Huge moment in the game!.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:33 am

Going to need nine plus from the last ten...

Close , I think. Dernbach will need to tighten up

What a great catch by Bresnan ! ...or is it ? Did it touch the ground as he rolled ? Doubt to the batsman , Raina stays...

Bresnan not happy Smile

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:34 am

Jesus that sucks

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:34 am

A job well done technology!. Bloody BCCI, are you watching?

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