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Post by msp83 Thu 10 Jan 2013, 6:52 pm

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The first of the 5 match ODI series between India and England will be played at Rajkot tomorrow at the Saurashtra Cricket Association stadium.
England will be on a high after their test series win last month. They are the top ranked ODI side in the world and had a fine 2012 in a format where they struggled in the past.
With Kevin Pietersen back after all those issues, the batting is further strengthened. Ian Bell who struggled big during the test series has found some form in the warm up matches and captain Alastair Cook is in the form of his life and has a special place in his heart for Indian bowling.
As far as the playing side goes, Cook, Bell, Pietersen and Morgan pick themselves. Craig Kieswetter should be the favorite to start the series with the gloves, but Jos Buttler's explosive batting might see him being picked. Samit Patel's handy 2nd string and the fact that he's a spinner might see him being picked at 7. In the bowling department, Steven Finn picks himself, and as Graeme Swann is rested, James Tredwell should be the first choice spinner. Jade Dernbach's experience and his decent showing in the warm ups might see him being picked over Stuart Meaker.
As far as India are concerned, they'll be going into the series under a lot of pressure having lost the home test series as well as a home ODI series against Pakistan. The process of change started with the axing of Zaheer Khan from the test side and his continued non-selection in the limited over squads. Now for this series, the underperforming opener Virender Sehwag found himself axed and Cheteshwar Pujara's selection is not just recognition of his performances, but also a notice to struggling opener gautam Gambhir. Gambhir might get to start series though, and Ajinkya Rahane should now get a run in the side. The middle order picks itself with Kohli, Yuvraj,Dhoni, Raina and Ravindra Jadeja as the all-rounder. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, R Ashwin, Ishant Sharma and the youngster Shami Ahmed should form the bowling unit.
This is the first international game at the SCA stadium. When the domestic Challenger Trophy was played, the BCCI had to ask for an explanation as to why did the batsmen had it all very easy out there on the track.
The 12 PM start should ensure the dew factor won't have too much of a say.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:35 pm

well that was out.

bit of luck to help india home hey.

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:35 pm

Patel back ... logical move , if he can bowl say two inexpensive overs it may be enough...

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

India not getting enough momentum here, Patel doing a decent job again.

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Post by hodge Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:37 pm

msp83 wrote:A job well done technology!. Bloody BCCI, are you watching?

They only like technology when it works in their favour

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:38 pm

Good over Patel clap

Now need ten per over ...India need a big over soon.

Still too early to call this...

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:39 pm

That was out, terrible decision. This is why football is reluctant to get into the technology debate.

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:40 pm

Good fifty Raina clap

Needs to finish it off for India to prevail , I fancy...although Dhoni has joined in now ...six !

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:40 pm

Dhoni is 5 of 14. He has done it time and again, and more often than not he has been successful. But I am not too sure Raina would be able to withstand the pressure for too long. MS better get a move on, because if Raina do something stupid, there will be all the pressure, well, he's changing gears.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:40 pm

india in there element here- batting for fun .. chasing big scores..


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:41 pm

apart from getting out and saved it was. so slightly lucky 50.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:41 pm

If these two stay in, India win. If one gets out, I can see England just about holding on.

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

Raina goes, pressure is very much on India.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

hes out now not that youd know from the crowd noise

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

...and out goes Raina...softly back to the excellent Tredwell ...

Four wickets now ...if England win he'll be M.O.M


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

india always had dernbache in reserve to win it for them anyway.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:43 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:If these two stay in, India win. If one gets out, I can see England just about holding on.
*cough* it's working again *cough*

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:43 pm

Pretty humiliating for India if they lose to Patel and Tredwell!

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:44 pm

Not over yet...ten per over can still be done.

But Dhoni will have to do it.

And he starts with a big six off Patel...

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:44 pm

On the earlier catch of Raina that was not allowed, my first impression was it was out, but the replays seem to indicate it wasn't a very clean catch.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:46 pm

india all over this., dhoni is dangermouse..

msp your right from the other angle it looked clearly grounded. it wasnt out

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:46 pm

ah the dhoni has a go now. India should cruise home here.

how can they lose really?

a team that considers itself amongst the best in the world wouldn't countenance coming close to a second string.


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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:47 pm

...and another !

Cook may have gambled too much with this over ... .6.611. So 14. , not too awful.

Still England's game if the seamers can hold their nerve , I think.

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:48 pm

Jadeja is good enough with the singles and he can run like hell, the job has to be done by the captain though.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:50 pm

How many overs does Dernbach have left? (he says hoping the answer is 0)
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Post by mystiroakey Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:50 pm

we are getting mashed up here..


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

I mean dhoni is pretty good but this is showing just how poor Bresnan is.

this'll be over with a few overs to spare.

I take it flower and the selectors wants a 5-0 loss and English cricket to slump further and lose more confidence before the kiwi series? because at this rate it will happen. farce selections.

In fact I suspect they did not want this joke of a series at all and this is their protest selection. far too many games and yet another visit to their. they already had a pointless visit of there for a one day series then all the other series. why back again?

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

If Dhoni stays in and hits a six each over , India win.

Otherwise...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:54 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:I mean dhoni is pretty good but this is showing just how poor Bresnan is.

this'll be over with a few overs to spare.

I take it flower and the selectors wants a 5-0 loss and English cricket to slump further and lose more confidence before the kiwi series? because at this rate it will happen. farce selections.

In fact I suspect they did not want this joke of a series at all and this is their protest selection.

Didn't realise winning a Test series in India for the first time in 20 odd years made you lose confidence
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:55 pm

Dhoni will still have to ride his luck here but if theres one guy that can steer this home its him

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

Olly wrote:How many overs does Dernbach have left? (he says hoping the answer is 0)

he just got Dhoni OK

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

sweet..

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

it's not exactly been great consistently though has it and another mickey mouse selection and thrashing hurts them.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

eat humble pie, all of you! brilliant from Dernbach, Dhoni gone!!

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Dernbach rather happy as Joe Root takes the catch Smile

Dhoni gone ...game over , I think , though Jadeja and Ashwin won't surrender.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

just as the bbc were talking him up.

well he had rather thrashed them for a couple of overs.

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

Well well well!. , that has to be the game!. Dernbach the man for England. MS unable to finish it off this time, like Pietersen earlier, threatned a lot more than the eventuall damage inflicted.
R Ashwin had a poor game with the ball, will he redeem himself with the bat?

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:59 pm

well done cook for keeping on with dernbach i suppose- he has allways been a decent death bolwer

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 1:59 pm

If Dernbache could tidy up and bowl that sort of line he would be a good bowler.

He's too expensive by far but he does seem to get late wickets.

looks a fantastic pitch, very different to the one in the Pakistan game the other day. reckon they will all be flat like this as they want to bat big?


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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

And now Jadeja ...third best figures of any bowler in the match....but still the internet hates him

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

come on you Dernbach critics, let's hear it now Very Happy

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Post by msp83 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

That's Jadeja done for the day, and the game is pretty much over.

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Post by alfie Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

And after bowling mostly rubbish all night , Dernbach is ending up on a high as he bowls Jadeja , and it really isGame Over now...

Well jinxed , trebell clap

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Post by hodge Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

soooooo hands up people who here was unhappy to see Dernbach being thrown the ball at the start of the over? i'll hold my hand up to say I wasn't happy, more than happy now Very Happy

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:01 pm

India 12 runs ahead of where England were.....shows just how incredible the finish from Keiswetter and Patel was

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:02 pm

well if India were still say 4 down I'd be backing them, but with just the tail in England are favourites surely?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:04 pm

my hands up hodge. I want him to prove me wrong, tighten up and get consistent.

he can win or lose matches and we are very light in bowling with Bres as he is at the moment. With no Broad or Jimmy he must do that.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

hitting 8 and seeing the rate climb.

India are ahead of where England were. they were 266-4.

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Post by JDizzle Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:07 pm

Oh Tim Bresnan. picard

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:08 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:hitting 8 and seeing the rate climb.

India are ahead of where England were. they were 266-4.

that's pretty irrelevant though, right now. What's relevant is RRR at 11, and just three wickets left.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:08 pm

Ashwin seems to think hes Samit Patel

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