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Post by msp83 Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:52 pm

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The first of the 5 match ODI series between India and England will be played at Rajkot tomorrow at the Saurashtra Cricket Association stadium.
England will be on a high after their test series win last month. They are the top ranked ODI side in the world and had a fine 2012 in a format where they struggled in the past.
With Kevin Pietersen back after all those issues, the batting is further strengthened. Ian Bell who struggled big during the test series has found some form in the warm up matches and captain Alastair Cook is in the form of his life and has a special place in his heart for Indian bowling.
As far as the playing side goes, Cook, Bell, Pietersen and Morgan pick themselves. Craig Kieswetter should be the favorite to start the series with the gloves, but Jos Buttler's explosive batting might see him being picked. Samit Patel's handy 2nd string and the fact that he's a spinner might see him being picked at 7. In the bowling department, Steven Finn picks himself, and as Graeme Swann is rested, James Tredwell should be the first choice spinner. Jade Dernbach's experience and his decent showing in the warm ups might see him being picked over Stuart Meaker.
As far as India are concerned, they'll be going into the series under a lot of pressure having lost the home test series as well as a home ODI series against Pakistan. The process of change started with the axing of Zaheer Khan from the test side and his continued non-selection in the limited over squads. Now for this series, the underperforming opener Virender Sehwag found himself axed and Cheteshwar Pujara's selection is not just recognition of his performances, but also a notice to struggling opener gautam Gambhir. Gambhir might get to start series though, and Ajinkya Rahane should now get a run in the side. The middle order picks itself with Kohli, Yuvraj,Dhoni, Raina and Ravindra Jadeja as the all-rounder. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, R Ashwin, Ishant Sharma and the youngster Shami Ahmed should form the bowling unit.
This is the first international game at the SCA stadium. When the domestic Challenger Trophy was played, the BCCI had to ask for an explanation as to why did the batsmen had it all very easy out there on the track.
The 12 PM start should ensure the dew factor won't have too much of a say.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:09 pm

ermmm i am not sure about this at all.. india have a chance

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:10 pm

poor start again from Bres then a tough catch chance.

india should have this. ashwin is taking them on. if they could bowl him they'd pressure them but he looks too good.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:10 pm

Rahane gave it away, Gambhir as usual did the same. The rest of them had to play the shots and it was fair enough, but the way the openers gave it away after getting a start was criminal and that is coming back to haunt India.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:10 pm

cheering every single and dot...

come on england

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:12 pm

Good to see India still fighting. But they lost too many wickets to make a comeback here.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:12 pm

Did you see what that guy on BBC said?

From Greg, TMS inbox: "I bet all of them Jade D haters wish they could Dernbach time right now and take back what they said."

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:12 pm

mystiroakey wrote:ermmm i am not sure about this at all.. india have a chance

India way ahead.. sky seem to be leaning toward them here.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:13 pm

yeah they have this. horrible feeling eng won't get many chances to get close in the series so a shame if they let it slip.

wicket there. so close but india still winning.


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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:13 pm

[quote="msp83"]Good to see India still fighting. But they lost too many wickets to make a comeback here. [/quote

Its a lottery with only 3 overs to go this is 50/50



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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:13 pm

Aswin edges finn...surely over

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:14 pm

Ashwin and Kumar haven't given up ...but inevitably Finn gets Ashwin. Just the rabbits left...

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:14 pm

Ashwin fought a bit and now its over.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:14 pm

"could Dernbach time right now and take back what they said"

HEHE. yeah true in my case

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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:15 pm

Dinda can try and do a bit of good old slogging.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:15 pm

I see Trebell is taking no chances ...jinxing to the end Smile

Don't know what we'd do without you mate ...

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:15 pm

Finn with the late reprieve then...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:16 pm

well.. if ever it were needed.

India are still winning!!! Sky keep pointing it out, they seem pretty sure India have it with a 12 run lead if they don't get this right.

and a 4.. India have this.


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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:16 pm

That knock from the much maligned Samit Patel is making all the difference here.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:18 pm

oh god Bresnan is a mess again today.

Indias game surely. Ahead and dominant.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:19 pm

Twenty seven needed from two ,which is closer than I expected to be honest.

So Bresnan and Dernbach just have to keep nine.ten.jack under 14 each over...

Bresnan not starting well with an edged four and a high no ball...he does need to just keep his nerve.

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Post by liverbnz Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:19 pm

Bresnan doing his best to end his England career here...

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

full and straight and thats it a wicket!!


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Post by JDizzle Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Finally Bresnan has stopped bowling length to a slogging tail ender. Woakes has to play in the next game.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Glad of that flying Patel finish I must admit...Bresnan bowls Dinda so it appears they will win by only ten to fifteen.

I'll take it Smile

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:23 pm

liverbnz wrote:Bresnan doing his best to end his England career here...

and again. keep 'em coming lads.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

great bowl from dernbach... but jeas a 4!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

dernbache.. needs to be tidy.. so he gives 4 first ball.

India still way ahead. looks easy with messy bowling.


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Post by seanmichaels Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

india still ahead on the worm?

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Post by JDizzle Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

Ishant edges it for four. 14 off 5 is easy.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm

A win's a win, I think we can take heart from the batting display. Bowling was poor on the whole, I think we're still the underdogs.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

urgghhhh close but surely these are proper tail enders ...just bowl at the stumps

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Post by JDizzle Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:25 pm

Good stop that from Kieswetter.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:26 pm

sweet we have won!!


great game


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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:27 pm

All the England seamers have gone for sixty odd. But none got hit for 86 like poor Sharma...

These pitches are tough on fast bowlers. Fun for batsmen though Smile

Dernbach finishes it off with a modest over for seven

England 1-nil Ale

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:27 pm

Dernbach is capable of bowlers 11 wides


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:27 pm

Credit where it is due for Dernbache. Much tidier.

eng have lost their last 13 against india in india apparently.

so a second string end it.

weird.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:28 pm

My man of the match would be Tredwell ...what do you all think ?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:28 pm

Christ India must be in real crisis now. England missing Trott, Swann, Broad and Anderson still manage to go 1-0 up

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:29 pm

gotta fancy india to win the rest but at least this selection won't be nilled.

another gen where constant comparisons will probably show their isn't much between them in practice probably.


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Post by msp83 Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:29 pm

So having lost the lastt couple of series 0-5, England have started the process of turning the tables here, they have won the first ODI of the 5 match series by 9 runs.
This is their best chance in a long time to win an ODI series in India, India played a lot better than expected, but not good enough at the end.

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Post by Liam Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:29 pm

Get in there. For once has to be said, the batters have won the game for England today for a change. Fantastic knocks from all of them and that last partnership between Patel and Kieswetter was crucial. Special mention to Tredwell who bowled magnificently.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:31 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
eng have lost their last 13 against india in india apparently.


They tied the world cup one, and many of the previous games were also a second string

Basic point stands though. As with the test series this is a big turn around for england in india

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:32 pm

oh it is for sure. I just would have liked to see us go out there in strength after the last odi series thrashing out there.

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Post by alfie Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:34 pm

A pretty good match as ODIs go...high scoring but close , swung back and forth...

I feel for the bowlers though , really is set up for them to be used as punching bags...would like just a little help in the pitch for them.

Good start for Cook/Giles .

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Post by dummy_half Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:38 pm

Great game, with the result still really in doubt until the last but one over.

England generally batted well, but were maybe a little slow scoring through the middle of the innings. Good think Patel and Kies added about 20 more than par in the last two overs.

India's chase - well, about 4 or 5 times it looked like they were establishing a lead, but each time a wicket fell just to halt their progress.

Not a great bowling performance by England other than Tredwell (although Root and Patel did OK between them with the '5th bowler' overs). OK, Dernbach came back well at the end to take a couple of important wickets, but he gives too many runs away in the rest of his overs and so releases pressure to easily.

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Post by VTR Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:42 pm

That's a good win but the bowling does look weak and will no doubt cost us a match or two. Still make India favourites for the series to be honest, but good if we can at least add another win to this.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:45 pm

England should have a strong squad for NZ hopefully.

Recent form and the raving I hear about Aussies seamers would probably make them favourites to win the Ashes this year wouldn't it btw?


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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:47 pm

the aussies will certainly not be favs- but england wont be favs by much..

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:18 pm

mystiroakey wrote:the aussies will certainly not be favs- but england wont be favs by much..
from the bits I've seen, Aussie look to be getting back to a one of the best squads in the world. Going to fancy it with this form and team I'd fear.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm

england are at home first(Is that right?).. we will be bookies favs i am sure..

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