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POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Leicester Tigers	17	14	1	2	437	368	+69	48	34	0	2	60
2	Harlequins	17	12	0	5	447	409	+38	49	43	3	5	56
3	Gloucester	17	11	0	6	435	399	+36	49	41	2	4	50
4	Newcastle Falcons	17	10	1	6	427	395	+32	45	36	1	6	49
5	Sale Sharks	17	10	0	7	432	405	+27	47	41	2	7	49
6	London Welsh	17	8	3	6	401	382	+19	43	36	0	6	44
7	Northampton Saints	17	8	1	8	425	415	+10	45	43	2	7	43
8	London Irish	17	8	0	9	425	422	+3	45	42	2	8	42
9	Bath Rugby	17	8	0	9	402	410	-8	39	44	0	7	39
10	Saracens	17	4	1	12	354	430	-76	31	47	0	6	24
11	Worcester Warriors	17	3	1	13	369	415	-46	32	45	1	7	22
12	London Wasps	17	2	0	15	335	439	-104	29	50	0	11	19

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 10:37 am

Probably why Lahiff is off to Aus, has a much better chance of being an int. over there for them than here for Eng.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 10:39 am

Some cracking options, to think we had Tim Payne playing there a few years back!

Massivley impressed with LCD, he's going to be a top top player if he doesn't get messed about too much between LH/HK

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 11:17 am

I thought mako went well and then his fitness told. Great seeing him plough Castro back. Think he is a super exciting
Option.

Interesting point around playing for another nation pooly could be a real option. Half of the Wales team is English currently so they would probably be up for an English prop!!!

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 11:42 am

Made me laugh that Mako after the game said that he is looking forward to facing Adam Jones saying he is probably the best NH tighthead. I prefer Cole personally.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 11:46 am

I think Jones is the better scrummager, no contest in the loose though as Jones is pretty much a passenger

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:29 pm

Jones is a much better scrummager than cole and is the favourite to be lions test th.

Cole offers much more as a player and is young and improving. He still gives a few silly pens away but for me he is one of the best th in the world.

by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:31 pm

Lahiff off to aus flux to play for them

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:35 pm

Amesbury to Bristol, another good signing for them.

by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:39 pm

Have some serious coin bris, is tagicakibau still there?

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:45 pm

not sure, possibly. he isnt great though and is always injured!

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 12:55 pm

Driver I see that Falcons have signed Powell from Sarries - not a bad signing for you there, wont set the world alight, but a good centre to have.

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:07 pm

Savea might well be my new favourite winger!

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/03/3048/julian-savea-smashes-israel-dagg-robbie-fruean

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:08 pm

Another favourite player! You must have about 30

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:17 pm

Was pretty damn impressive Chris! Never seen Freuen tackled so hard and Dagg will have nightmares for years about those bumps. Was reminiscent of Lomu/Catt!

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:23 pm

Haven't seen that sort of thing happen for a while in rugby - like you say SJE very reminiscent of Lomu/Catt - let's hope Catt doesn't offer Ashton any advice on how to tackle him when we next play NZ!

Anyone seen if his younger brother is any good? Sure someone said he's a flanker?

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:25 pm

His younger brother is a 7 and will be playing super 15 he is banned after a big tackle in preseason.

He lifted the man and did not control him to the floor.

He has played 7s for nz at the age of 17 and by all Accounts is a monster which is why I signed him.

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:29 pm

They all try and go low but still get bumped. They look to isolate Savea against his opposite number as he will nearly always go past the first man

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:34 pm

They don't get bumped as bad as Dagg was at the weekend. 3/4 times as well. Don't expect that off an international fullback!

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:38 pm

Dagg is in really bad form at the minute, he's been shifted all over the place and looks well out of sorts.

Still best FB about though.

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:41 pm

Haven't seen Dagg get done like that before - sometimes you just get freaks like Savea though and no matter how good a tackler you are you can't do anything about him.

That's what annoys me with England, we've got our own freak in Tuilagi but we don't ever give him good forward ball to attack with, the one time we've done it in 12 months was against NZ and he tore them a new one.

Our backline needs to work around putting Tuilagi into space and then having Ashton run off his line breaks, but we don't do that at all. Should be really simple!

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:44 pm

It's easy just saying it.

Tuilagi has some responsibility also, he should look for the ball more. Sides also look to close him down now and he needs to adapt to this.

Ashton is just way way off form, really needs dropping

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:48 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Dagg is in really bad form at the minute, he's been shifted all over the place and looks well out of sorts.

Still best FB about though.

Think all crusaders have been poor so far this year. They start slowly but this takes the biscuit
. Their
Pack have been awful so far

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:52 pm

Its mainly because there is no creativity from Barritt at 12 in 99% of his games, if 36 is given more of a chance after the Wales game then that could change.

Ashton is an odd one, his workrate is ridiculously high the amount of work off the ball he does is amazing, but there were 3 times in the game against Italy when he could have been put in for a score, worst one was when Brown made his break and didnt pass, and I think Barritt butchered a simple one too (could have been for Croft).

We just need a creative 10 or 12 to put players into space, also got to give Brown a go at 15 and bring in another out and out wing, as our attack is pretty much limited to Tuilagi making a break these days!

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:01 pm

"Ashton is an odd one, his workrate is ridiculously high the amount of work off the ball he does is amazing"

That should be a given. His work rate may be high but hs defence has been awful and he's offered nothing in attack. I pressume in work rate you mean he runs a lot?

by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:01 pm

Powell is a clever signing, can't see him getting ahead of Crockett but plenty of depth

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:07 pm

Is that Crockett who is ex of bath and bristol ?
If so he has struggled when in the prem where Powell is a proven performer
.

Who are newcastles best players ?

by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:17 pm

Welch, Hodgson, Tui'Polatu, Fielden

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

Tui'Polatu

Who's this guy??? lol

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:28 pm

Driver wrote:Welch, Hodgson, Tui'Polatu, Fielden

Jeez they will have to spend a lot
Of money to get new players if they are your best ones/

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:34 pm

We've got a good squad but needs tweaks.

We have a lot of younger lads like Wilson, Welch, Hodgson, York etc who are a year older and better than most on here will have seen.

Hogg has been great too.

We have Lawson who should be one of our better players but isn't.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:40 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tui'Polatu

Who's this guy??? lol

Ahhh Tane Tu'ipulotu

Yea he's a class act, we really miss him when he's out. Thats a decent prem midfield actually Tu'ipulotu/Powell

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm

Has lawson struggled
For you ? Surprised as he is a class act

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:02 pm

His defence is great but doesn't offer enough in attack, especially with the platform. He's a bit like the SH version of Gopperth.

Pilgrim looked better and was preferred before injury

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:07 pm

Surprised by that as he is great at getting the backs going. Does not offer enough threat by sniping but service and kicking excellent

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:08 pm

His service isn't great tbh, never really rated him

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:22 pm

How do you think your current squad rates in comparison to this years AP?

Better than Welsh?

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:37 pm

Rumours that parling launch and lawes could miss Saturday

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:38 pm

I'd say so Nick, it's a bit more the way were playing too. It's been good for us.

I think we'd have been safe by now, probably around Worcester level.

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:38 pm

who would play 2nd row??

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:41 pm

Del Fava who's a real class act and probably Macleod.

Not massive names but good players, 80 caps between them

by Driver Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:46 pm

Botha and Croft probs Nick which isn't good at all.

Deano seems pretty sure we'll make some shocks in the transfer window if we come back up.

Forgot about Del Fava at 4 aswell , he's a tank and brute in the loose.

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:47 pm

I meant for England on Saturday if Parling, Lawes and Launch out!

I think next season we could see Irish, Sale, Worcester and Newcastle fighting relegation.

I don't think Irish and Sale will start as badly as they did this season though.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:48 pm

Ah you meant England lol

by Guest Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:48 pm

Imagine they would go Botha and maybe Robson who has had involvement with the squad ?

Hope its just paper talk. Read It on espn

by LukeLovesLuka Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:48 pm

As long as Palmer isn't back....
Reckon they'll all be fit.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:49 pm

Irish need some good signings.

I think we'll be bottom 4 above Sale, Irish, Worcester

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:51 pm

we do, but we will have O'Leary and Ansbro back and Sa will have had a a full pre-season so that is almost like 3 new signings.

Blair Cowan from Worcester is a decent enough signing.

We really need some more forwards though to replace Corbs, Lahiff and Garvey (assuming they both leave).

Worcester will need to make some good signings, Goode, Mullan, Kvesic and Cowan all leaving is a big blow.

by dammit_chris Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:56 pm

Have you got Cowan then Nick? Think he's a good player who does well for Worcester, good ball carrier and seems to have the knack of staying on the pitch longer than most of other backrow players!

Worcester could well be favourites for relegation next season - Deano very good for Newcastle, but they will need to sign some big players to stay up as wouldnt say their squad was as strong as either Quins or Saints when they went down.

by stnick88 Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:59 pm

Its pretty much a done deal I think Chris.

I can't say I have seen a lot of him but he was excellent v Wasps the other day and Worcester fans seem pretty annoyed to be losing him saying he has been one of their best players recently. He will replace Gibson who is off to Tigers.

Supposedly we are in for Lewington from Tigers (no idea who he is) and Fenby from Scarlets.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:00 pm

Well we're unbeaten in all comps, must be a half decent squad.

I think we tend to be underestimated by people which is fine by me.

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