England vs Italy: Match thread

by nathan Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:04 pm

First topic message reminder :

So what are peoples predictions? It's snowing in Leicester, so I presume similar weather at Twickenham?

I have a bad feeling about this game and don't think England will run away with it as many are predicting.

by nathan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:36 pm

wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

by thebluesmancometh Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:36 pm

Tuilagi clearly holding back Parisse and Lawes dives in from the side of a ruck to kill ball!!!

by **LondonTiger** Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:37 pm

What odds the draw?

by **LondonTiger** Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:37 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi clearly holding back Parisse and Lawes dives in from the side of a ruck to kill ball!!!

Obviousley not that clear, and Clancy had yelled ball out.

by Morgannwg Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:37 pm

Definitely the confident Azzuri we seen versus France. Such a pretty sight in the 6 Nations. Game of the weekend so far.
Smile

by Hood83 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 pm

This is woeful. I'm running out of negative comments! If Italy have more threatening backs then your team, you're in trouble.

by Morgannwg Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:38 pm

nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

by kingelderfield Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:39 pm

Is it me is is this not quite working?

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:40 pm

Arggg, so close for Italy

If Orquera hadn't sliped it would have been a try

by Breadvan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:40 pm

Feck me.... Shocked

by Barney McGrew did it Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:40 pm

Tbh Italy deserve this game so far

by thebluesmancometh Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:41 pm

England desperate defence!!! Well done England, killing ball effectively right on the line of illegally or not!!

England should just take this, and this defence will be just what they need!

by Scoped Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:41 pm

How the hell did Clancy not penalise England there?! Absurd. They were off their feet and not releasing all over the place

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:41 pm

If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

by LeinsterFan4life Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:41 pm

Italy deserve it by far the better team

by Hood83 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:41 pm

Italy deserve this. What does that say about us. As ever, complacent, lacklustre and utterly clueless in attack. What odds on a Welsh champ.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:42 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

by Morgannwg Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 pm

Italy won't get another chance like that. Game over.

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 pm

Awful clearance by Flood

Italy have created more, ill disipline in the first half has cost them.

Zanni down, he has had another great game

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

by Hood83 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:44 pm

wales606 wrote:If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

Yep. In fact, any of their backs probably

by 100%beefy Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:45 pm

1 England 3 3 0 0 73 37 6
2 Wales 4 3 0 1 92 63 6
3 Scotland 4 2 0 2 82 84 4
4 Ireland 4 1 1 2 57 59 3
5 Italy 3 1 0 2 42 78 2
6 France 4 0 1 3 50 75 1

18 - 11 means Eng will be 91 - 48 PD 43
Wales is 29

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:45 pm

Anther dire box kick, Brown saves some blushes

by Geordie Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 pm

We have to move Brown to full back...

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 pm

Venditti so close

Unlucky for Italy

Roll on next week

by logie28 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 pm

Game ends on typical note, england play ball on the ground and get away with it....bit sickening this....

by Taylorman Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 pm

crazy...one minute to go you dont kick the ball to the opposition. How many times does that get ignored. Dumb rugby.

by Barney McGrew did it Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:47 pm

I truly believe I will never see England play so clue-lessly again. Watch out Wales.

Italy were brilliant and deserved to sneak it. But they didn't.

by thebluesmancometh Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:47 pm

That last play mustve been sickening from an Italian POV, no Englishman on his feet yet everyones fighting over the ball on the ground...

by wales606 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:47 pm

100%beefy wrote:1 England 3 3 0 0 73 37 6
2 Wales 4 3 0 1 92 63 6
3 Scotland 4 2 0 2 82 84 4
4 Ireland 4 1 1 2 57 59 3
5 Italy 3 1 0 2 42 78 2
6 France 4 0 1 3 50 75 1

18 - 11 means Eng will be 91 - 48 PD 43
Wales is 29

Yep, so Wales have to win by 8

by glamorganalun Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

What an interesting final game coming up Wales need to win by 8, not 48 as expected.

by rainbow-warrior Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Well up for work in NZ and catching the last 30 mins. My my my, so that's the mighty England...terrifying. Italian Bulls v Gummy Bears. Bring on Cadiff, to stop the GS AND win the league....COME ON WALES Yahoo

by Morgannwg Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

wales606 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 7 points according to the commentary before this game.
It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

by Breadvan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Squeaked a win. Well done Italy. Kick up the arris for England.

by Hood83 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Garbage. I don't know where to start. Well done Italy, you deserved better.

by Casartelli Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

As a neutral, I think rugby was the winner today. Italy were fearless and played some of the most positive rugby of the 6N so far. Fantastic underdog performance but England never really looked like losing.

by bsando Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Wow. What a performance Italy! But well done England, wins a win. 8 points, Wales away in cardiff, will be a good game I think. Good luck both teams Very Happy

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:48 pm

wales606 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

Ah yeah espn havent updated their table.

Game on next week then!

by sickofwendy Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Poor performance but we won,bring on Wales!!!!!!! boxing

by nathan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Hood83 wrote:
wales606 wrote:If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

Yep. In fact, any of their backs probably

Based only on this game then yeah.

by 100%beefy Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Listen to SCW backtrack!!

by nathan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:50 pm

glamorganalun wrote:What an interesting final game coming up Wales need to win by 8, not 48 as expected.

Expected by who exactly?

by glamorganalun Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:50 pm

I can't understand how England got away with not supporting their body weight over the tackled player thoughout the game but got away with it.

by Geordie Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:50 pm

Well its another win...played badly and won...ill take that.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:51 pm

SL needs a slap for thinking he can get away with putting B teamers out rather than tinkering with the areas that have been problematic...mostly the back 3 and the requirement for a proper 8

by nathan Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:51 pm

glamorganalun wrote:I can't understand how England got away with not supporting their body weight over the tackled player thoughout the game but got away with it.

Italy were doing the exact same thing.

by thebluesmancometh Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:52 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:SL needs a slap for thinking he can get away with putting B teamers out rather than tinkering with the areas that have been problematic...mostly the back 3 and the requirement for a proper 8

by whocares Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:52 pm

A draw would have been a fair result. Reckon one half for each team and possession was 50/50 in the end. England ultimately should not have let italy back in the game but those players are still relatively inexperienced.

by nobbled Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:53 pm

England were poor - well done Italy. Wales must be rubbing their hands...

by Duty281 Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:53 pm

Rubbish from England. Decent first half, with no end product, but the second half was as poor as I've seen England in a long time. They looked a tad complacent, possibly with one eye on the game in Cardiff. Take nothing away from Italy though, they played very well. Perhaps though this was the best thing to happen to England, now there'll be a week of very high intensity training, and there will be no overconfidence/complacency in Cardiff on Saturday. I can't wait.

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