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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 May 2013, 4:26 pm

And a pen machine. I really don't see it

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Post by Guest Sun 12 May 2013, 4:30 pm

Mujati given Vunipola a torrid time

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 12 May 2013, 4:52 pm

Hartley been everywhere. Saints pack great. Hope they turn up for the final!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 May 2013, 4:54 pm

I think when I see Hartley I just see everything bad. I dislike him so much as a player I just pick up on his negatives.

Bit like you and Banahan Matt, although he is dross lol

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Post by Guest Sun 12 May 2013, 4:58 pm

Tom wood good at 7. Farrell behaved like an idiot all match

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 May 2013, 5:09 pm

Farrell was terrible, distribution and attitude all game. I bet Gatland is praying Sexton doesn't take a knock

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 12 May 2013, 8:44 pm

Hartley back to his best there, so influential to Saints - been playing that well for the last month or so. Seems to lift the whole of the Saints team up a level.

Lawes as well - for those saying he's not an international class lock I'd watch his performance there! Myler had a cracking game too.

Farrell has to control his temper as he can get too caught up in games - always said if you can take Sarries on in terms of physicality and kick your goals you'll beat them.

Mako and Stevens got owned in the scrum too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 12 May 2013, 10:15 pm

Lawes was good actually, best display I've seen him have. Saints front 5 were great. Thought Hartley grew into it and was ok, I'm just not a fan.

Neil Backs backrow...

6. Croft
7. Warburton
8. Faletau

With Heaslip on bench

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Post by Fluxy Mon 13 May 2013, 9:28 am

Joe ford has signed for Sale next year. He's looked very good against the falcons, could be a great signing for you Steve.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 13 May 2013, 9:29 am

Nice signings. We needed a 10.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/beale-to-take-indefinite-break-from-rugby-20130513-2ji73.html

Beale surely out of Lions series now.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 13 May 2013, 9:32 am

Shame really. Is it alcoholism?
Good news for Lions, but would rather we played a full strength oz side.
JoC injury doesn't look as bad as feared.

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Post by Guest Mon 13 May 2013, 11:31 am

JOC injury is fine apparently.

His pride will be hurt more from his defending. Got ran through a few times quite badly. Aussies should really help him out and let him play one position.

He is not half the player he was due to it. They risk ruining one of the brightest talents I have ever seen.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 13 May 2013, 6:11 pm

Watching blues v rebels.

Ranger to Saili for the 2nd try is pass of the year. Saili's take poss a knock on though.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 13 May 2013, 6:18 pm

Ranger on JOC hahahahahahaha

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Post by Guest Mon 13 May 2013, 7:17 pm

Ranger was great in attack and shaky in defence. If he sorts that part he is a world beater. Really dynamic. That offload was top class

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 13 May 2013, 8:28 pm

This is what happened when Ranger ran into Cooper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZfHOEzMh9c

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 13 May 2013, 8:45 pm

Who have been the standouts in s15 this year?

Can't understand why the Aussies dont just keep JOC in one position and then stick with him there. Seems to be being messed about a lot over there with that and its stopping him being the best player in the world.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 8:48 pm

Injuries & a really poor team are holding him back.

He'll be a top 10/12 once he settles, should move really

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 13 May 2013, 9:02 pm

Rebels are stupid with their recruitment, got all the talent in the world in their backline but their pack (with the exception of 3 good second rows) are pretty awful.

I dont think he's a 10, would say he's too good to waste on the wings as you want him on the ball as much as possible and attacking so maybe 12 would be his best long-term position.

Hard to judge his defence as Rebels pack is constantly going backwards so places more pressure on him there.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 9:54 pm

His one on one defence is top draw, he's not had an issue. Remember him taking Spies on front on and carrying him off the pitch. Positionally in the 10/12 he needs work.

Rebels are dreadful in the pack bar Higginbottom, their front 5 gets smashed every game. No platform for a good backline but JOC & Beale should have known this. Poor career choices.

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Post by Guest Mon 13 May 2013, 9:56 pm

His defence is dreadful at 12 and 10. Think play him
Back 3 but get him involved often.

No reason he can't pop up at 1st receiver. Glos do this
Well with Jsd Sharples and may to break game up

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Post by Guest Mon 13 May 2013, 9:57 pm

2 great second rows the rebels.
Pack has been better this year.
JOC great one on one tackles on Wing or fb. Looks lost at 10/12

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Post by Guest Mon 13 May 2013, 9:58 pm

Better but still not great the pack

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 9:58 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:This is what happened when Ranger ran into Cooper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZfHOEzMh9c

I think Cooper is trying to get out the way! Lol....like how after the initial hit he still manages to fluff the tackle.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 10:00 pm

I've not seen these great 2nd rows for the Rebels, please don't say Pyle as he's terrible!

All about learning the role for JOC, he'll be ok if they keep him in position.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 13 May 2013, 10:01 pm

It is a great hit. Stopping Ranger at that pace isn't easy as JOC found out. If Cooper is as 'scared' of tackling as you suggest, then Ranger goes through without issue.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 10:04 pm

It was a canny tackle Steve, shows you what he can do when hiding at FB

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 13 May 2013, 10:10 pm

His defence is good at 15. It works for the reds as he is good on the counter. Especially with Lance defending at 10 who is a beast.

At 10 it is dire. If he doesn't know exactly who he has to tackle then he is useless. Too many people running at him and has no time to position himself.

Maybe it will improve one day, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 13 May 2013, 10:16 pm

I've seen Cipriani dump tackle Alesana Tuilagi before, doesn't mean he's great defensively.

I do like JOC, great player but the way they move him around so often makes it impossible for him to learn how to play one position perfectly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 May 2013, 10:27 pm

A dump tackle certainly wouldn't suggest you were strong defensively.

Cips is dreadful, he's a pretty solid lad too. Pretty sure Burns had the worst defensive stats in the prem though which is worrying for the summer

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:43 am

Nz training squad

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8712032,00.html

Reckon everyone will be after leutua he has been a sensation.

Cornell du Preez of the kings is another I imagine will attract a few bids

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 May 2013, 8:21 am

Priestland injured his Achilles again, doubt we'll see him for a while:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/22516288

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 10:12 am

Seems he will be back for next season

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Post by Fluxy Tue 14 May 2013, 10:36 am

Four scrumhalves is a bit odd

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 May 2013, 2:19 pm

Launchbury, Parling and T.Youngs up for England player of the year.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 14 May 2013, 2:31 pm

lads am after a blindside, anyone have any available?

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Post by Fluxy Tue 14 May 2013, 2:43 pm

I have a few mate.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 14 May 2013, 2:44 pm

I'm also looking for a very good 13 if anyone is willing to do a biggy for one.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 14 May 2013, 3:54 pm

France squad

http://www.ffr.fr/index.php/ffr/historique/2013/xv_france__6

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 14 May 2013, 4:00 pm

Some interesting inclusions and omissions there Steve.
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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 4:52 pm

He picks weird squads that's for sure pete. You could pick a better squad but to be fair I don't know what injuries there are and who needs a rest. Their domestic competition kills them

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 May 2013, 5:53 pm

Nakaitaci is qualified for France??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 14 May 2013, 7:50 pm

Must be.

Surprised there is no Gunther or Martin. Presume Pape is injured? FTD an obvious omission. Be interesting at least and would be surprised if they won.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 14 May 2013, 9:06 pm

France pushing the nationalised players at the moment aren't they. See Tulou turned down Samoa on advice from St Andre. He qualifies July/August some time.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 May 2013, 10:35 pm

Pape been out for a few months. Missed all of 6N.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 14 May 2013, 10:37 pm

Is Maka French? Back row including Maka and Tolou could be quite a sight.

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Post by Guest Wed 15 May 2013, 9:08 am

Maka will probably become French i imagine.

Think you can only ever get away with one type of player like a maka, pickles or tuloh in a Backrow.

You need some people to hit rucks and do the nitty gritty.

Love watching all of those play ball in hand. Tremendous carriers

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Post by stnick88 Wed 15 May 2013, 9:43 am

such a shame about Ansbro retiring.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 15 May 2013, 9:46 am

After an eq LH and a new 2nd row if anyone has any going around, also a fb
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 May 2013, 12:26 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:France pushing the nationalised players at the moment aren't they. See Tulou turned down Samoa on advice from St Andre. He qualifies July/August some time.

Pretty sure he's played 7's for NZ or Samoa, does that tie him in?

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