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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 May 2013, 1:27 pm

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 15 May 2013, 12:30 pm

I know he had trials with NZ 7s but don't think he ever played for them. Widely reported on French sites that he will be eligible end of the summer and has already had talks with St Andre

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Post by Guest Wed 15 May 2013, 12:46 pm

No qualifies in September. Read an article on French news site

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 15 May 2013, 1:44 pm

I read he played 2 mins in a 7's game and the FRU had made a mistake. I wasn't sure 7's qualified you for a country tbh

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 15 May 2013, 2:01 pm

All Blacks have had the Junior All Blacks side as their 2nd side since 2005 so any 7s caps he had shouldn't affect him

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 15 May 2013, 2:05 pm

Scrap that since 2003 even

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 15 May 2013, 6:38 pm

Guys - do any of you take protein supplements or similar to aide fitness programmes, I have stupidly signed up to do an English Channel swim in September and then 5 days later a 50km run and need something to help with the recovery.

Any tips/suggestions would be much appreciated!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 8:54 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:France squad

http://www.ffr.fr/index.php/ffr/historique/2013/xv_france__6

Looks like the end of Harinoroquy' sInt career then. He's been pretty poor since he came back from injury tbh, dl a couple of T14 games and he's being missing tackles for fun. Still has the lineout quality but can see why he's not around French squad.

Bit of an issue at 8 for France after Pickles, pretty untested.

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Post by Guest Fri 17 May 2013, 9:38 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Steven_Sharks wrote:France squad

http://www.ffr.fr/index.php/ffr/historique/2013/xv_france__6

Looks like the end of Harinoroquy' sInt career then. He's been pretty poor since he came back from injury tbh, dl a couple of T14 games and he's being missing tackles for fun. Still has the lineout quality but can see why he's not around French squad.

Bit of an issue at 8 for France after Pickles, pretty untested.

I know you do it as a wind up like that notch chap who used to be on 606( are you him?) but that is such a dross
Comment anyone who watches t14 would massively disagree. He has been excellent as he was vs Glos in Amlin. He adds such direction and influence to all the games.

I know I often say you lack knowledge of the game from not playing and seem to only like show pony type players who are all show but I would say that's possibly your most dire post of
All time which is saying something.

Its up there with cruden is 2nd best 10 in the world!

I would not pick Hari for France as he is not the future same reason they have not picked yachvili. Both are good enough as is FTD.

French selection is crazy and anyone bar psa would pick a different French squad

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Post by Guest Fri 17 May 2013, 9:39 am

Look
Forward to
Watching Hari
Vs lions for Ba bas.
Maybe they picked him
Because he is playing so badly ?

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Post by Guest Fri 17 May 2013, 9:42 am

I know i own him and he is favourite to be AB scrum half and a player I bought for the future but I would not start perenara for the ab's. he needs to get more control of his game.

Explosive with a great pass but kicking and management need a bit of work

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Post by Fluxy Fri 17 May 2013, 9:45 am

If his passing and kicking needs work then I need my eyes checked because he has been superb this morning against the Canes, so far...

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Post by Guest Fri 17 May 2013, 9:50 am

Passing does not need work its excellent.


Only 10 minutes in to today game fluxy but he has kicked averagely most of season. Hits some pearlers and then next minute kicks it dead.

Massive fan and reckon he will be a world beater for me but he is still a bit raw and management needs work.

Exciting player r

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Post by stnick88 Fri 17 May 2013, 9:53 am

hes certainly not the player he was but he is no mug. still a decent player. not sure if he is int. quality anymore though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 10:01 am

Only somebody who hasn't seen much T14 would say Hari has been great, very much a spent force.

I like TJ, dodgy pass at times but electric

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Post by Fluxy Fri 17 May 2013, 10:17 am

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8717189,00.html

Schuster confirmed for Tigers, pushing Castro out even more

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 10:18 am

Great signing, top scrummager.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 10:19 am

Castro has left I think Flux

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Post by Fluxy Fri 17 May 2013, 10:20 am

He's leaving, but no club has really stated an interest. So in limbo at the minute from what I can gather.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 17 May 2013, 4:15 pm

pooly will love this....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/22570141

Heaslip on 5 man shortlist for European player of year award.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 4:17 pm

Came out after his one good game of season in Amlin, complete joke as he's been terrible till then.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 17 May 2013, 4:35 pm

Matt don't bite....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 4:40 pm

He has been good last 2 games though.

I read an article on the theory of his recent better form last week.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 17 May 2013, 9:06 pm

Poor Parisse having to play with these chumps

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 12:37 am

Assume heaslip was good?

In poolys mind cruden is tackling wild buffalo as an afterthought as he is such a defensive guru lol.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 8:56 am

Why assume Heaslip was good?

He was average, Parisse was better in a poor side. Sexton was very good.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 8:57 am

anonmattyt wrote:In poolys mind cruden is tackling wild buffalo as an afterthought as he is such a defensive guru lol.

Laughing at you own sh1t jokes that make no sense is the first sign of madness Matthew Wink

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 18 May 2013, 9:37 am

Who are going to be the main transfer targets for everyone this summer?

Got my eye on a couple of 10s, another lineout lock and probably a no9 too. Its hard working out a team that will be good for the whole season - I struggle during AIs and 6Nations - don't think I won a league game during either!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 10:02 am

Whitelocks lineout play is getting better and better, taking Blues to the cleaners here, Read too.

Crusaders scrum is immense, Franks looking back to top form

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 10:19 am

Leutua is my target great player. 6 or 8 and will get even better


Whitelock is the best 5 of there. Immense player. In with a shout of being best player on the planet.

Blues scrum is garbage most weeks. Franks in middle of a shocking season and will lose his place to afeaki. Most kiwi pundits are not fans at all. Afeaki looks a top operator to be fair and anyone looking for a th should consider him.

Amazing how crusaders start slow and always come strong in the end


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 10:38 am

Obviously not seen game today. Franks was immense, Fitzy said AB selectors would be licking lips after performances of Franks, Whitelock & Read.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 12:43 pm

Watching last nights game.
Sexton looking super sharp. Good news for lions. Please let him stay injury free

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 12:46 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Obviously not seen game today. Franks was immense, Fitzy said AB selectors would be licking lips after performances of Franks, Whitelock & Read.

To be fair having a good game when your against Tim perry is expected.

Think AB's
Front row could be interesting this year. Mealamu is not what he was so could see new Hooker and tight head.

As its New Zealand I am sure whoever they pick will be awesome. They are generally great in most positions.

Put in for my tickets for nz game in November yesterday amazing how you have to buy them 6 months in advance

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 12:51 pm

I doubt Franks will be replaced, he's a proven world class TH. As you say, form is temporary.......

Mas had a real poor year the season before last but came back strong, Franks is still young too.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 1:02 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I doubt Franks will be replaced, he's a proven world class TH. As you say, form is temporary.......

Mas had a real poor year the season before last but came back strong, Franks is still young too.

He is young and will probably come back. He is 25 so should be entering Into his best years. He has taken some cuffings in the scrum this year and lots of pundits saying it showed how much thorn helped him out.
To be fair thorns scrummaging helps any front row out. Him and Bakkies give so much shunt.

Did you see stormers lose yesterday ? Etzbeth and Bekker were top in a misfiring stormers set up. Coetzee the coach is dreadful he has a top side and yet cannot get them to play well.

On paper probably best side in competition

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 1:04 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8719540,00.html

Sexton can't escape him !

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 1:22 pm

George smith and TPN rumoured to be out of lions due to injury today

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 2:41 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/10064585/Heineken-Cup-final-2013-Clermont-Auvergne-v-Toulon-sorry-Jonny-but-your-side-will-lose-power-struggle.html

Great article. Spot on re giteau being a hard runner these days. I agree with him re bardy a top player however I imagine Vosloo will start the game.

Could be a cracking game of 2 different styles. Wish I had a ticket to go like Steven.

Needs an early score to open up a bit.

Toulon bench better but clermont starting 15 will have too much I reckon

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 6:26 pm

Giteau not looking like much of a hard runner against Rougerie, he's getting schooled

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 6:29 pm

I know you don't rate bonnaire but for me he is one of the great
Players of the last decade. Outstanding

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 6:30 pm

Great player but Delon is a t w a t.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 6:33 pm

Masoe so good at breakdown can see he was A 7 most of his life

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 6:35 pm

Michalak is garbage. Worst player in a pressure situation. That was
As bad as i have seen.

Terrible

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 6:51 pm

Great final. Johnny Is a legend. So happy for him. Basteraud was brilliant

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Post by stnick88 Sat 18 May 2013, 7:27 pm

Glad Toulon won. Cant believe the fuss people make of the armitage wave.
Happens a lot and no one cares because it's him people start crying about it. Bast and lobbe fantastic.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 7:34 pm

Agree nick but armitage as an individual is a pleb. Waving is not common and for me is not on. Can you name a player this season that's waved?

I think Delon is best England fb always have. He has it all. His attitude and discipline lets him down.

Never heard any player have time for him as a man.

Kicks like a mule, cracking under high ball and no weaknesses playing wise. Seriously quick also.

Maybe his demeanour gives him the edge which makes him so good. As a player I would want him in my team.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 18 May 2013, 7:57 pm

Big shock that, fair play to Toulon they never gave in.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 8:49 pm

Toulon defence great Bakkies Delon masoe bast all wonderful. Great final

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Post by Guest Sat 18 May 2013, 11:54 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/lions/story/0,25883,3819_8720045,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 19 May 2013, 9:32 am

Aus squad for Lions.....no Cooper:

Ben Alexander, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Berrick Barnes, Nick Cummins, Dave Dennis, Saia Faingaa, Israel Folau, Will Genia, Liam Gill, Scott Higginbotham, Michael Hooper, Rob Horne, James Horwill, Digby Ioane, Sekope Kepu, Christian Lealiifano, Stephen Moore, Ben Mowen, James O'Connor, Wycliff Palu, Benn Robinson, Rob Simmons, James Slipper, Sitaleki Timani, Joe Tomane.

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Post by Guest Sun 19 May 2013, 9:47 am

Apparently there are 6 spots open so he may have a chance. They will probably play Barnes although I prefer him at 12

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