2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread

[Dr Gregory House MD]

First topic message reminder :

Now that the season has drawn to a close, I thought I'd put up a thread to discuss possible transfer business.

Rumours, Predictions, Hopes and Actualities all welcome here

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Hart
Zabaleta-Kompany-Nastasic-Clichy
Garcia
Yaya-Fernandinho
Navas-------------Silva
Aguero

Potent side

[The Special Juan]

Garcia out, Rodwell in

Neymar's a bargain!!

[Fernando]

Wayne Rooney's representative has been given permission to talk to Arsenal over a move to replace Gunnersaurus on a 5 year deal

[The Special Juan]

Have his odds fallen to 2/1? (Is it a swap deal? Gunnersaurus & Fred the Red up front...)

[Fernando]

Have his odds fallen to 2/1?    

Yeah they have

SkyBet 2/1
Paddy Power 6/4
SJ 7/4
Coral 4/1
You win 2/1

[The Special Juan]

I'll believe it when I see it. 4/1 isn't bad though!!

[Fernando]

Im just more surprised their that low i can't see it happening although it's fun reading these know it alls on twitter who reckon that we've got permission to talk to him tbf to the guy he broke the Fellaini/Arteta/Higuain news so may be something in it

[Guest]

Bookmaker trick Nando. They lower the odds, plant the rumour and sit back whilst us gullible folk back it thinking we are buying money!

I've learnt this the hard way!

[The Special Juan]

I suppose there's no smoke without fire. Until the BBC or Sky report it (or a good newspaper) though, I won't believe it.

[Guest]

I suppose there's no smoke without fire.  Until the BBC or Sky report it (or a good newspaper) though, I won't believe it.

Is there such a thing!

[The Special Juan]

I suppose there's no smoke without fire.  Until the BBC or Sky report it (or a good newspaper) though, I won't believe it.

Is there such a thing!

"A-newspaper-which-tends-to-be-more-factually-correct-than-others" then.

[Guest]

Hart
Zabaleta-Kompany-Nastasic-Clichy
Garcia
Yaya-Fernandinho
Navas-------------Silva
Aguero

Potent side

In terms of chance creation.....great. However, I don't think that side is going to score a haul of goals each game. Silva is not a finisher, Navas has an abysmal goalscoring record & Fernandinho & Yaya are not double figure EPL goal machines in my opinion in the mould of Lampard for example. Lot of pressure on Aguero to put the chances away in that line up. Agree or not? Also Garcia would not fill me with much condidence, Clichy is just plain poor and Nastasic is still learning. It's still not the great side I keep hearing City fans shouting about.

[Guest]

Agree John. They'll flake too many times to become champions. Decent looking side on paper mind.

Regarding Silva; bar a six month period in his second season has he really been all that?

[Crimey]

I think that City is XI is just as good as Chelsea's or Manchester United's right now though. All three of holes that you can pick with them. I can still see City delving further into the transfer market.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

To be fair if they get Isco they could just drop Garcia and play a 4-2-3-1, not so sure you need an amazing ball winner in their, look at Utd this year romped home with no real enforcer in CM

[Crimey]

I actually said this in my response to the podcast which I lost, they were all going on about 'steel' in the midfield or 'bite' in the midfield, but I can't think of many top sides that have that. Barcelona, Bayern and Real Madrid all don't have a dedicated defensive midfielder like that, they all use players who read the game. None of the top four in England have players like that either.

[Guest]

Maybe not Crimey but there's no denying that in this country you need a steely first XI if you are seriously going to contest a championship. Man Utd had, in my opinion, the 3rd best squad in the league last season but they had thrice as much bite as any of their rivals.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I would say Utd had thrice as much firepower, rather than bite tbh. Citeh/Chelski's strikers had poor seasons really, where as Utd had Rooney/RVP firing them in

I wouldn't say Utd had a lot of bite last season tbh

[Crimey]

When Manchester City won it the year before, where was the bite in that side that isn't there now? Who have United added to make that difference? I don't buy that at all.

[Guest]

Depends how you define bite I suppose. How many times did United turn a draw into a win and a loss into a draw? A fair few times I'd imagine. Certainly more than their direct rivals.

United are like a dog with a bone and never look beaten. Bite goes beyond having a headless chicken running around looking to win a tackle. I'd say Utd have plenty of bite and always have.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'd say that's more down to the mental attitude and general ethos of Utd under Fergie

Sort of a John Cena-esque never say die attitude, except for when they go behind against the Nodge

[Crimey]

Yeah but on the podcast the guys were all surprisingly in agreement that what a few teams, including Manchester United, lacked was a steely, defensive midfielder with a bite. I think that's ridiculous as none of the top sides in Europe right now have that other than possibly PSG and Juventus with Matuidi and Vidal, and even they have a lot more to their game than ball-winning.

I think what you're suggesting is not something that can really be bought, it's in the ethos of the club, and takes several years to get right. In England I've only ever really seen it in Manchester United, Chelsea under Mourinho and arguably Manchester City when they looked certain to have not won the title in 11-12.

[Guest]

I'd say that's more down to the mental attitude and general ethos of Utd under Fergie

Sort of a John Cena-esque never say die attitude, except for when they go behind against the Nodge

Won me a few quid that afternoon Olly!

And to think I was laughed at for backing you to get something against them and a win against Arsenal.

Can't wait for your tips next season kidda.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yeah but on the podcast the guys were all surprisingly in agreement that what a few teams, including Manchester United, lacked was a steely, defensive midfielder with a bite. I think that's ridiculous as none of the top sides in Europe right now have that other than possibly PSG and Juventus with Matuidi and Vidal, and even they have a lot more to their game than ball-winning.

I think what you're suggesting is not something that can really be bought, it's in the ethos of the club, and takes several years to get right. In England I've only ever really seen it in Manchester United, Chelsea under Mourinho and arguably Manchester City when they looked certain to have not won the title in 11-12.

You never saw the 10-11 edition of the Nodge in the Championship then Crimes

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'd say that's more down to the mental attitude and general ethos of Utd under Fergie

Sort of a John Cena-esque never say die attitude, except for when they go behind against the Nodge

Won me a few quid that afternoon Olly!

And to think I was laughed at for backing you to get something against them and a win against Arsenal.

Can't wait for your tips next season kidda.

I'll be old enough to back em myself as well!

Be rolling in the cash

[Guest]

Yeah but on the podcast the guys were all surprisingly in agreement that what a few teams, including Manchester United, lacked was a steely, defensive midfielder with a bite. I think that's ridiculous as none of the top sides in Europe right now have that other than possibly PSG and Juventus with Matuidi and Vidal, and even they have a lot more to their game than ball-winning.

I think what you're suggesting is not something that can really be bought, it's in the ethos of the club, and takes several years to get right. In England I've only ever really seen it in Manchester United, Chelsea under Mourinho and arguably Manchester City when they looked certain to have not won the title in 11-12.

And Arsenal 1998-2006.

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I'd say that's more down to the mental attitude and general ethos of Utd under Fergie

Sort of a John Cena-esque never say die attitude, except for when they go behind against the Nodge

Won me a few quid that afternoon Olly!

And to think I was laughed at for backing you to get something against them and a win against Arsenal.

Can't wait for your tips next season kidda.

I'll be old enough to back em myself as well!

Be rolling in the cash

Theres no secret to Ollys tips, its just bet on Norwich every week.

[Guest]

I'm sure I read that if you put a pound on Nodge to win every week last season you'd have been slightly up. Olly may have been onto something G..

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It'd probably make following Norwich 10x better to boot.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That's cos we won the games we should've lost, and lost the ones we should've won

I'll do some pre-season predos again. My Steve Clarke to be sacked 1st and Swansea to be relegated were particularly good last year

[Guest]

That's cos we won the games we should've lost, and lost the ones we should've won

I'll do some pre-season predos again. My Steve Clarke to be sacked 1st and Swansea to be relegated were particularly good last year

I predicted the exact same thing and stuck a ton on Swansea to finish rock bottom. Not so great minds.

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Arsenal have offered 25m (or 30m euros) to RM for Higuain.

Wenger isn't messing around.

[Holymiky]

I think Higuain will be a great signing, he is a brilliant striker in my opinion.

[Ent]

Arsenal have offered 25m (or 30m euros) to RM for Higuain.

Wenger isn't messing around.

It's 5 years to late, enjoy battling for fourth arsene.

Re the dm debate, it's nonsense- everyone should work hard and tackle if you need a talentless clogger to sit and boot people you've a terribly balanced side.

[Guest]

Arsenal have offered 25m (or 30m euros) to RM for Higuain.

Wenger isn't messing around.

It's 5 years to late, enjoy battling for fourth arsene.

Re the dm debate, it's nonsense- everyone should work hard and tackle if you need a talentless clogger to sit and boot people you've a terribly balanced side.

Just what I've been saying Ent. I've longed for the day we agree with each other.

I'll go upstairs happy now!

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Is it really 5 years too late? Rather Arsenal are now in a stronger position to handle FFP than any of the rest of the top 4.

[Guest]

Like FFP really means anything anyway.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

When I'm sober I will explain bite of the good teams. Its different by relative teams, some teams need it in fmetoant areas more TNA. Others

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Oh Frak that sentence

[NickisBHAFC]

 Seems i wasn't the only one to have one to many last night Chris!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I am now too hungover to explain

[NickisBHAFC]

hahaha im on my way to KFC to cure mine!

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Joe Kinnear to become Newcastles DoF

[The Special Juan]

I thought he was dead!!  Apparently not.

[Guest]

They might as well go the whole hog and bring Dennis Wise back too.

[The Special Juan]

Keegan?  What's he up to these days?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'd rather they took Alan Shearer off our TV sets

[Guest]

Keegan?  What's he up to these days?

He was polluting the analysis on ESPN but now they've lost the football nothing!

[NickisBHAFC]

SunSport Now ‏[ltr]@SunSportNow[/ltr]1m
Joe Kinnear confirms he has been offered director of football role at Newcastle #nufc

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Lee Camp says Hull signed Lewis McGugan.

Enjoy his 5 games a season where he looks quality

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