Argentina vs England - 8.10pm KO

I haven't seen a match thread for the game yet so thought I'd get one up and going, with the game on BBC hopefully plenty will be watching!

Argentina

M Bustos Moyano (Montpellier); M Orlando (Huirapuca), G Tiesi (unattached), F Contepomi (Stade Francais), M Montero (Club Pucara); B Urdapilleta (Oyonnax), M Landajo (CASI); P Henn (Brive), M Garcia Veiga (Buenos Aires C & CR), M Bustos (Montpellier), E Lozada, (Agen) M Galarza (University of La Plata), J Farias Cabello (unattached), B Macome (Tucuman), T Leonardi (Southern Kings).

Replacements: M Guidone (La Plata), G Roan (Cavalieri Prato), F Gomez Kodela (Biarritz), T Vallejos Cinalli (unattached), T De la Vega (CUBA), N Vergallo (Southern Kings), G Ascarate (Carcassonne), B Agulla (unattached).

England

M Brown (Harlequins); C Wade (Wasps), J Joseph (London Irish), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester), D Strettle (Saracens); F Burns (Gloucester), L Dickson (Northampton); J Marler (Harlequins), R Webber (Bath), D Wilson (Bath), J Launchbury (Wasps), D Attwood (Bath), T Wood (Northampton, capt), M Kvesic (Worcester), B Morgan (Gloucester).

Replacements: D Paice (London Irish), H Thomas (Sale Sharks), P Doran-Jones (Northampton), C Lawes (Northampton), B Vunipola (Wasps), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), K Eastmond (Bath), B Foden (Northampton).

Looking at the teams both sides are unsurprisingly putting out some new faces with Argentina fielding a very experimental side.

For those wanting to watch the BBC 2 coverage starts at 7.30pm with KO at 8.10pm. Hopefully we'll see a good game with some bruising forward battles up front and some skill from the backs in behind them - as an England fan I yet live in hope of the Burns, Twelvetrees and Wade rejuvenation of the backline!

We were waiting for you to create one

Very exciting young England side all chomping at the bit to stake their claims for places in the AIs and next year's six nations. I think it'll be a wide-open game; England to triumph 20-42.

I don't think this is going to be a stroll in the park for England.
The argies are missing a few frontline players but still boast over 100 caps more in their starting xv and they have a bit of depth to their pl aying pool.
Hopefully our pack can put us on the front foot and we get to see wade with ball in hand.

I'm glad they didn't have to perform that anthem in Hong Kong conditions, half the players wouldn't have had the fitness to reach the game.

England kicked off from the left! no one starts the game from the left.

This could be an interesting game

A strong England second team against an unknown Argenitian second team

Argentina will have to compete with their seconds if they want to build depth for the future in the rugby championship - imagine the All Black or SA second string.

Contepomi still know what he is doing - he may not have the legs or lungs anymore, but he still has the hands and the brains

I would love to see him and BOD together again, the opposition would be tackling ghosts

Those pitch painted adverts are a pain. Surprised they didn't go the whole hog and paint over the entire pitch...

GLove39 wrote:Those pitch painted adverts are a pain. Surprised they didn't go the whole hog and paint over the entire pitch...

If it helps them make some money to support their growing pro structure I'm happy

0 - 6 to England - Burn's really is a brilliant natural striker of the ball isn't he. Such an easy kicking style.

Clever play from Argentina avoiding the maul

Shanked that

Clever play by Argentina yes, but also infuriatingly idiotic from England. A perfect example of failing to adopt heads-up rugby. In this case in a very literal sense.

Really good turnover from Webber there. He really is so strong in contact!

Wade is class. Good try

Has Strettle beefed up?
Lively break from Wade.

Good finish

Poor pass from Burns though

Wade and Morgan...fantastic.

JJ's ability to pause and accelerate was invaluable there.

Imagine if Care or Youngs were playing

Tight head prop shouldn't play centre.

England missed Morgan badly in the 6N

Or any 8

Argentina will be disappointed

england offloading is good - that's the difference between these backs and the likes of Farrell and Barritt

nobbled wrote:England missed Morgan badly in the 6N

Hopefully with Billy and Ben we'll have some redundancy

36 really should be England's starting 12

Would be surprised to see Burns and Wade in the starting XV in the autumn as well

This looks a poor Argie team but very classy from England so far. Knowing when to offload and when to take contact and recycle is massive, looks like they're getting the balance right this half.

Argentina lineout is a complete shambles

That's frustrating, should have been an unassailable lead there. Commentator's right, bit of showboating

Have Argentina won a lineout yet?\

Gifting England possession

Argentina not rolling away

Seriously good play, nice try Morgan

This is a demolition

Hood83 wrote:Argentina not rolling away

But they are rolling over

Wade's passing has created 3 tries

I thought he was supposed to be scoring them?

Ball like that, the supporting forward shouldn't secure ruck ball, he should just pick it and go or pass. The ball is still alive and if Argentina had moved quicker, with Dickson's slow to that ruck, they could have stolen it. Good try though

wales606 wrote:Wade's passing has created 3 tries

I thought he was supposed to be scoring them?

He creates them at Wasps too, why do you think Varndell has so many?

0 -23 to England with some great hands for that last try. It's looking like we may just have to much power in the forwards for a close game though.

I just saw a "Hook" at a scrum!

That's a first

Actually having someone running off a strong scrum instead of just waiting for a penalty. Who'd have thought it

wales606 wrote:I just saw a "Hook" at a scrum!

That's a first

England always play fair and never feed in the scrum

I just turned it on! I thought Argentina were good?

Anyone think Gatland is watching this before Fedexing Bowe's replacement to Oz?

t1000advancedprototype wrote:I just turned it on! I thought Argentina were good?

Anyone think Gatland is watching this before Fedexing Bowe's replacement to Oz?

It's weak Argies team

t1000advancedprototype wrote:I just turned it on! I thought Argentina were good?

Anyone think Gatland is watching this before Fedexing Bowe's replacement to Oz?

It's a weakened Argentinian side. A few guys will be fringe squad players.

t1000advancedprototype wrote:I just turned it on! I thought Argentina were good?

Anyone think Gatland is watching this before Fedexing Bowe's replacement to Oz?

They're missing 20 odd players, as they're being kept back for the Rugby Championship. Fair to say their strength in depth is nowhere near that of Englands. Bit of a spanking being given out here.

Marler doing what Marler does best

ChequeredJersey wrote:

wales606 wrote:I just saw a "Hook" at a scrum!

That's a first

England always play fair and never feed in the scrum

It only happened because a clumsy second row kicked it forward and the hooker had to nick it back - the Argentinian hooker didn't have a clue what was happening

The English lads look much older than the Wales team that beat Japan earlier.

Looks like the Welsh management want to expose as much youth to international rugby as possible. Will it be a long term benefit?

Disarray in the Argentinan ranks, everyone arguing about whether to kick for goal or not.