Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

[Dolphin Ziggler]

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Man City 3 Hull 0
Cardiff 1 Everton 2
Newcastle 1 Fulham 1
Norwich 1 S'oton 2
West Ham 1 Stoke 0
C Palace 1 Sunderland 2

Liverpool 1 man Utd 2
West Brom 1 Swansea 1
Arsenal 3 Spurs 2

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

Those two points are incredibly contradictory because if they had the money to buy these players with their own money then it is 100% their fault for borrowing yet more despite already having horrendous debt levels. The most comparable team to Madrid is United who despite having lower turnover are a fair bit more profitable, the most profitable club in world football cannot spend £86mil on one player yet Madrid with higher debt levels can. There really is not defending them here, their country is in dire straits yet they do nothing to help but just make it worse year on year.

[kingraf]

United have to pay back debts, which we already agreed Real dont have to...

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

Exactly, my point proven, sign, sealed and delivered.

[mystiroakey]

Aye..

Its just not cricket!


and much worse as well. It affects so many things across the board

[kingraf]

Look, Im not saying its right, Im just pointing out what I thought was a pretty obvious difference...

[mystiroakey]

the stupid thing about it though graf is that madrid could have probably paid a lot less and done it shrewdly but because they have an everlasting pool of european bail out cash! they don't even bother to try.


If Ozil was on the market earlier he could have gone for 50 plus.. No other team would have paid more than 60 for bale, but tottenham would have realistically sold him to madrid for 5 mill less than what a PL club would have bid anyway!!

They just go ott because they can rather than being shrewd because they don't have to be!

[kingraf]

True - But remember - all Perez has is extravagant spending, he lacks actual football so he generally just seduces members with sweeping acquisitions. Ive long given up on him showing footballing acumen... Now I just watch him overspend and hope for the best. After all, he once got us three Champions Leagues in five years in the first Galactico era, unfortunately, like the first galactico era, he stopped buying overpriced great players, and now just buys overpriced brands.

[mystiroakey]

To go on to your side of the fence for a minute

There is off course the fact that they wanted to pay high on purpose.. The 85 mill buy that has eclipsed ronaldo is great Media around the globe!! Everyone is going to want to watch him in the far east to the states!!


The concern is is that if he doesn't perform they will all just turn off and cancel there shirt orders! its a short term Buzz! yet if he does do well it may push ronaldo out the door, enabling another team with the next big signing!

However the truth is is that it isn't good for football. Its just pushing all players values up at the same time and hitting us fans harder and making it harder for likes of the mighty Palace to get anywhere in this game!

[kingraf]

Ive consigned myself to Ronnie leaving tbh, hopefully Bale can at least put out semi-respectable (for an 86M player) stats.

Look, it is pushing player prices up, and creating added pressure to make it into European competitions, and play rodiculous tours in horrid conditions, fatiguing players etc.

The only thing about the Bale deal, is that Real apparently get 10% off if they pay in a timely manner. So I just wonder if they take the fanfare of having broken the record again, and then try soothe Ronaldo by telling him they only paid £77.4m for Bale. Given the Ozil deal, thats only a £35M net, which looks a little better.

[Fernando]

Andy Carroll could be out with a recurrence of his injury til 2014

[GSC]

Andy Carroll injured?  

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Wow that's horrible news for the Hammers, especially when they're lacking a real backup option at the minute (has Carlton Cole signed yet?)

[GSC]

No

[GSC]

Failed medical

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

So who do they have, Maiga? Vaz Te?

Scraping the barrel a bit there, not really Carroll-esque players. Gonna need the widemen to start scoring a few

[Kay Fabe]

Shame for big Andy, I quite like him, he's a victim of the over inflated price tag associated with being an English Premier League player, just saw his stats on Sky there, might be wrong but thought he had 41 goals from 99 starts, not the wprat for his type of CF, I was interested to see how the Hammers would do this year so any loss will be a big kick in the nuts

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Andy Carroll could be out with a recurrence of his injury til 2014

To be fair, he hasnt even been for a scan yet.

Sadly, I may have to admit defeat in my argument that he isnt injury prone. 

We appear to be close to signing Mladen Petric on a free. Would be happy with that, was surprised Fulham let him go. 

All a bit worrying though, quite the focal point of the side. Will heavily affect our season and makes me look down not up.

[Kay Fabe]

We pulled the plug on a deal for Petric last Monday

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can't say I saw anything from Petric while he was at Fulham that suggested he could cut it in the Prem

[Guest]

Can't say I saw anything from Petric while he was at Fulham that suggested he could cut it in the Prem

Other than those two goals against Norwich, he did nothing of note

[mystiroakey]

I have only just found out I have Bt sport without even knowing!!

If you have Virgin TV xl you have bt sport- they must have added it in without letting me know!!

[mystiroakey]

Quite handy when I have just also found out Palace man u is on BT!!

[Guest]

Sounds like LFC may have dodged a bullet re Carroll. Lost a great deal of money on him but if he's badly injured it now seems like a half decent bit of business. Wonder if anyone at Anfield knew this before he was sold or if it's just freakish bad luck.

As above, got no gripes with Carroll and thought he put in a good shift under Kenny and it's not his fault his style of play wasn't fancied by Rodgers.

Good luck to him though.

[mystiroakey]

If Liverpool wanted rid of carroll due to this injury possibility. You can only blame west hams medical team tbh

[Fernando]

Andy Carroll could be out with a recurrence of his injury til 2014

To be fair, he hasnt even been for a scan yet.

Sadly, I may have to admit defeat in my argument that he isnt injury prone. 

We appear to be close to signing Mladen Petric on a free. Would be happy with that, was surprised Fulham let him go. 

All a bit worrying though, quite the focal point of the side. Will heavily affect our season and makes me look down not up.

It's why i put the word could

[Hero]

I have only just found out I have Bt sport without even knowing!!

If you have Virgin TV xl you have bt sport- they must have added it in without letting me know!!

It was about 3 weeks ago and yes it was slipped under the radar, can't recall Virgin ever mentioning it, I only found out through a mate on Facebook.

[CFCNick]

I'd been keeping tabs on the BT and Virgin deal as I wanted to know whether or not we'd still have the US sports coverage, mainly college football & baseball. BT was on air for a week until the deal was announced on the Virgin TV forums and within days it was plastered all over the Virgin website.

[mystiroakey]

It is good. However I have missed games without realising. Glad I found out before this saturday!

[Liam]

For my house in uni next year, we've gone with BT broadband so i get bt sport, plus i got sky go. Don't think i'll leave the house!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can't say I saw anything from Petric while he was at Fulham that suggested he could cut it in the Prem

Other than those two goals against Norwich, he did nothing of note

And one of them was a deflection

[GSC]

Not really going to get the cream of the crop on a free in september tbf

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Not really going to get the cream of the crop on a free in september tbf

Indeed. Me and a couple of my mates always fancied him as quite the player, underused at Fulham a bit, so I'm quite happy. Free transfer and filling a gap, not to be sniffed at. I mean, we're gonna be fighting lower down now rather than upper parts of midtable, but thats the sad truth of major injuries.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The last time we lost at White Hart Lane, Nathan Redmond was only 13 months old.

Lets hope the unbeaten streak continues, 3,000 canaries including me shall be there on Saturday!

[Guest]

Back to the good stuff today fellas. My predos:

Man Utd 4 C Palace 1
A Villa 1 Newcastle 1
Fulham 2 West Brom 0
Hull 1 Cardiff 1
Stoke 1 Man City 2
Sunderland 1 Arsenal 3
Spurs 3 Norwich 1 (sorry Olly)
Everton 0 Chelsea 1

[Guest]

FreekShow, hope your right with the amount of goals. Be interesting to see if we get some action this weekend, unlike two weeks ago. I think the draw at Villa & Hull is spot on.

[Duty281]

LINE-UPS - Man Utd v Crystal Palace (1245 BST)
Man Utd: De Gea, Fabio Da Silva, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Anderson, Valencia, Rooney, Young, van Persie. Subs: Evans, Hernandez, Cleverley, Zaha, Fellaini, Amos, Januzaj.

Crystal Palace: Speroni, Mariappa, Gabbidon, Delaney, Moxey, Dikgacoi, Jedinak, Campana, Puncheon, Chamakh, Gayle. Subs: Phillips, O'Keefe, Kebe, Alexander, Jerome, Bannan, Guedioura.

Referee: Jon Moss (W Yorkshire)

No Smalling, Jones, Kagawa or Welbeck for United. Over-priced Fellaini on the bench.

[Bull]

FFS MOYES YOU Frak IDIOT!

[GSC]

Kagawa has the flu btw

[Guest]

Wow, we suck

Can somebody tell Moyes that Young is not good enough to be a United player

[Guest]

Despite whats just happened I still stand by my previous comment

[GSC]

Never really threatened to be a contest this.

[Duty281]

Pity about the penalty from Palace's point of view, as they appeared to be visibly growing in confidence for me as the half wore on. Game pretty much over now. I do think it was a penalty, and the red card was spot on. Equally, I thought Evra was unlucky not to get a pen earlier on.

[JamesLincs]

ashley young is an absolute cheat. why cant he just play honestly instead of looking for penalties all the time

[Guest]

yeah, game over. up to that point united looked pretty average as ever. expect united to bang two or three more in this half because of the red. harsh on palace.

[Guest]

yeah, game over. up to that point united looked pretty average as ever. expect united to bang two or three more in this half because of the red. harsh on palace.

Or maybe not......EPL's slim pickings on goals continues.

[Duty281]

ashley young is an absolute cheat. why cant he just play honestly instead of looking for penalties all the time

Very true. Wish the referee could have given him a straight red, and then the FA ban the pr!ck for 10 games.

[Guest]

rooney......two set-piece goals from united. not impressive.

[mystiroakey]

Well played palace... Gutted though..

But the performance again is pleasing

[Guest]

No disrespect to Palace but having to rely on two set piece goals against a newly prmoted team down to 10 men??

Not brilliant at all. Ashley Young shouldn't be allowed anywhere near our first team, he's no where near good enough said it when we played Liverpool and that hasn't changed since. There's nothing to get excited about when he collects the ball, absolute waste of space

[GSC]

So so performance from United but good enough.

Games like these wont decide Palaces fate.

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