Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

by NickisBHAFC Sun 06 Oct 2013, 8:01 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lamela is the biggest waste of money ever

by GSC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:19 pm

Howe didn't hack it at Burnley and ran home quickly I guess. I'd be worried about taking him on after that.

by compelling and rich Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:20 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"More importantly, I dont think Palace have a team that would suit Pulis' approach. Nor does their academy structure go along with it."
spot on
yeah stoke had decent defenders!
Imagine football was so sterile and everyone just was afraid to play the game, it would be a sad day.

The fact we have arsenals and even swanseas of the world trying to play an attractive style over just playing not to lose adds so much to the brand of the PL..

same arsenal fans that were calling for arsene's head because they hadn't won anything for so long. style only lasts so long. the game is about winning

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:25 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"More importantly, I dont think Palace have a team that would suit Pulis' approach. Nor does their academy structure go along with it."
spot on
yeah stoke had decent defenders!
Imagine football was so sterile and everyone just was afraid to play the game, it would be a sad day.

The fact we have arsenals and even swanseas of the world trying to play an attractive style over just playing not to lose adds so much to the brand of the PL..
same arsenal fans that were calling for arsene's head because they hadn't won anything for so long. style only lasts so long. the game is about winning

And yet those fans(not all) still keep going and still keep appreciating the style of football. And the rest of us have all appreciated the way they play

The fact is we are lucky arsenal have done what they have done.

We are all better off with them in the prem over another short term silverware hunter!

And i dont think anyone can disagree with that last statement.

Most of us fans win nothing. zip all! The thrill is do well against your main rivals, the thrill is to see the next new talents emerge from your youth, the thrill is to watch that one piece of amazing play that stays with the fans for ever(arsenals tika taka or fulhams v palace)

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:28 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
CFCNick wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Finally C&R, someone talks a little bit of sense. The concept of football is winning, as it is in any professional sport, the style of football that Stoke played was effective and it kept them in the premier league. Pretty silly to be knocking Pulis after what he did with Stoke.
The thing that annoys me most about football fans, other than the "against modern football" parade (usually lower league fans in their early to mid 20s who don't even remember "past football"), is when people go on about "playing the right way".

There is no right way. There is winning and losing.
well you wouldnt understand that would you.

Because you support chelsea over your local team!! that are so hard to beat but lack style..

What games would I want to watch in the PL between I dunno arsenal or chelsea.!!

ARSENAL- thats who!!

We watch football to support our teams or to watch great football..

the majority of people that watch these teams play watch the games for the entertainment value!

If your team entertains you but loses you are still up as a fan!

Why do you think arsenal fans have stuck so loyal, Why do you think wenger is the longest reigning manager in the prem!!!

Anyone with that state of mind needs locking up. It doesn't matter the team plays. Winning is great and losing sucks.

I'm a Chelsea fan through family. Nearly every member of my family are Chelsea fans except for 3-4 of my cousins who are United, QPR, Spurs and Luton. Plus I do support a local club. I've probably spent close to £300 on Northampton Town tickets in the last 12 months. I also went to every Bedford home game between 2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap.

Arsenal fans are loyal because it's their club. I'm bet a lot of the prawn sandwich brigade vacated their boxes at the Emirates a couple years ago.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:30 pm

GSC wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Very classy club then. A beacon of sensibility, and the very example of what every club in the world should be like.

Not.

You aren't allowed to criticise Brighton Duty, Nick gets very upset

Indeed Duty don't you know Brighton were just a shinig beacon of light in the Poyet affair

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:31 pm

"Anyone with that state of mind needs locking up. It doesn't matter his the team plays. Winning is great and losing sucks."

such a black and white world you live in dude.. You will wise up one day!

well maybe not as a chelsea fan that wins so much anyway!

most fans dont win much, we cant let it affect us in the same way it affects you. Its more about the sport too many!

by compelling and rich Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:32 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"More importantly, I dont think Palace have a team that would suit Pulis' approach. Nor does their academy structure go along with it."
spot on
yeah stoke had decent defenders!
Imagine football was so sterile and everyone just was afraid to play the game, it would be a sad day.

The fact we have arsenals and even swanseas of the world trying to play an attractive style over just playing not to lose adds so much to the brand of the PL..
same arsenal fans that were calling for arsene's head because they hadn't won anything for so long. style only lasts so long. the game is about winning
And yet those fans(not all) still keep going and still keep appreciating the style of football. And the rest of us have all appreciated the way they play

The fact is we are lucky arsenal have done what they have done.

We are all better off with them in the prem over another short term silverware hunter!

And i dont think anyone can disagree with that last statement.

Most of us fans win nothing. zip all! The thrill is do well against your main rivals, the thrill is to see the next new talents emerge from your youth, the thrill is to watch that one piece of amazing play that stays with the fans for ever(arsenals tika taka or fulhams v palace)

i was born in 85, fergie took over in 86 and we lived happily ever after. whats this not winning business you speak of? under moyes i may well have to get used to it

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:33 pm

"I also went to every Bedford home game between 2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

so you admit you care about style at the lower level where teams just cant win all the time!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:34 pm

Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:35 pm

"Arsenal fans are loyal because it's their club"

arsenal fans are loyal because there style is so attractive..

"2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

as you weren't at your local team.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm

Olly wrote:Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie

you support a team that tries to play good football, you know you will not win the prem for a long long time if ever- but you are proud of your football!

that is also all i want as an england fan!!

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:39 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"Anyone with that state of mind needs locking up. It doesn't matter his the team plays. Winning is great and losing sucks."

such a black and white world you live in dude.. You will wise up one day!

well maybe not as a chelsea fan that wins so much anyway!

most fans dont win much, we cant let it affect us in the same way it affects you. Its more about the sport too many!

Are you for real??? Don't like having to defend myself as a fan but my age probably makes me an easy target but I've been a fan since Gullit was manager. I've not experienced the downs of a Palace fan but I've experienced far more than the average Arsenal, United or Liverpool fan my age. I remember losing to average Norwegian, Greek and Slovakian sides in the UEFA Cup 1st round. When going on a cup run and taking points off United, Arsenal & Spurs were high points in the season.

I'm not advocating playing to not lose with my "black and white" attitude but I prefer a more defensively solid game with a more direct approach going forward. Not to the extreme of the Bolton's and Stoke's but a happy medium between hoofball and tika taka. Too far either way is boring to me. I've grown up with and still love the fact that you don't know which personality of the Chelsea side will turn up.

by compelling and rich Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:41 pm

dont think anybody is saying style isnt important. we all want to watch attractive football if possible. but the most important thing is getting results. the last few years under fergie our style changed and wasnt as attractive but we kept winning so nobody minded

under moyes now were playing even poorer style and not getting the results, only the extremely lucky fans can whinge about the style of football when winning. think mr abramovich is one of the few under mourinho's first spell to do this. bar that example its not style that gets managers the sack its not getting the results.

olly would you genuinely rather be a fan of blackburn where they are now or when big sam was there?

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:42 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"I also went to every Bedford home game between 2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

so you admit you care about style at the lower level where teams just cant win all the time!!

I don't care about style. But I won't pay £10 to watch something that resembles something I can watch in a park for free on a Sunday.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:44 pm

chelsea play a half decent brand anyway CFC. and you win stuff. and you are still a good team, and you can play an amazing counter attacking game to get results when needed or a good attacking game other times. Chelsea is a club that wins and knows how to. You are in a very tiny minority in the world that has that!

You also remember losing to european teams!!! Palace got 3rd once and would have got into europe if it wasn't due to the other teams fans that got us all kicked out of europe!!!!

I am 36 now, winning isn't that important to me- Its all about the game.. yes the play off game at wembley was amazing and brought it all back.. but i dont need massive games week in week out to support my team! Losing does not affect the rest of my life! I do not get depressed over it

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:45 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"Arsenal fans are loyal because it's their club"

arsenal fans are loyal because there style is so attractive..

"2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

as you weren't at your local team.

What? That bit you've quoted was about watching my local team.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:46 pm

Since when do Blackburn play attractive football now compelling haha

As far as I know Big Sam werent sacked cos of style of play more to do with Venky's being tools

At the end of the day people pay ridiculous money to go watch football, and wanna be entertained. I dont mind about results so much as long as we give it a go ala the Chelsea game

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:48 pm

CFCNick wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"Arsenal fans are loyal because it's their club"

arsenal fans are loyal because there style is so attractive..

"2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

as you weren't at your local team.
What? That bit you've quoted was about watching my local team.

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:51 pm

mystiroakey wrote:chelsea play a half decent brand anyway CFC. and you win stuff. and you are still a good team, and you can play an amazing counter attacking game to get results when needed or a good attacking game other times. Chelsea is a club that wins and knows how to. You are in a very tiny minority in the world that has that!

You are also remeber losing to european teams!!! Palace got 3rd once and would have got into europe if it wasn't due to the other teams fans that got us all kicked out of europe!!!!

I am 36 now, winning its that important to me- Its all about the game.. yes the play off game at wembley was amazing and brought it all back.. but i dont need massive games week in week out to support my team! Losing does not affect the rest of my life! I do not get depressed over it

I've never mentioned getting depressed. Just that it sucks. And why the attitude against Chelsea? There's fans of clubs my age that haven't seen lows like losing UEFA Cup games to Midtjylland and Hapoel Tel Aviv. That's why made that point. I've never experience relegation or the threat of it but I've had harder times than a lot of others my age.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:52 pm

CFCNick wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:chelsea play a half decent brand anyway CFC. and you win stuff. and you are still a good team, and you can play an amazing counter attacking game to get results when needed or a good attacking game other times. Chelsea is a club that wins and knows how to. You are in a very tiny minority in the world that has that!

You are also remeber losing to european teams!!! Palace got 3rd once and would have got into europe if it wasn't due to the other teams fans that got us all kicked out of europe!!!!

I am 36 now, winning its that important to me- Its all about the game.. yes the play off game at wembley was amazing and brought it all back.. but i dont need massive games week in week out to support my team! Losing does not affect the rest of my life! I do not get depressed over it
I've never mentioned getting depressed. Just that it sucks. And why the attitude against Chelsea? There's fans of clubs my age that haven't seen lows like losing UEFA Cup games to Midtjylland and Hapoel Tel Aviv. That's why made that point. I've never experience relegation or the threat of it but I've had harder times than a lot of others my age.

no attitude , i support you in europe all the time(and been to games) and have complemented your team above.

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:57 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
CFCNick wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"Arsenal fans are loyal because it's their club"

arsenal fans are loyal because there style is so attractive..

"2000 - 2008 but their style has changed so bad that now it's far too expensive to watch something so crap."

as you weren't at your local team.
What? That bit you've quoted was about watching my local team.

You need to re-read my post. I was at my local team. I went to Bedford Town games during the time. I'm from Bedford.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 7:59 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Finally C&R, someone talks a little bit of sense. The concept of football is winning, as it is in any professional sport, the style of football that Stoke played was effective and it kept them in the premier league. Pretty silly to be knocking Pulis after what he did with Stoke.
But the Stoke fans tired of it. More importantly, I dont think Palace have a team that would suit Pulis' approach. Nor does their academy structure go along with it. Strikes me as a job Curbishley might take, well its in the South, but god knows what he is after these days. Stuart Pearce could be interested. Personally, Karl Robinson, Uwe Rosler or maybe Rene Meulensteen would all look good shouts.
Stuart pearce!!! ask any city fan what type of football he brings! worse than pullis because he doesnt win.

ive got a city fan mate who was a season ticket holder, that season under pearce he missed a game where they scored 3 at home. the rest of the season at home he only saw city score twice

That was a different City and he was still a fairly new manager. And he didnt do horrendously really. Pearce is lambasted as an easy target for fans of English football, so England u21s didnt sparkle at tournaments, its always been a team depleted by Premier League managers and the senior team. Their qualification was always brilliant, and he helped a lot of players coming in now into the transition of the full squad

by GSC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:19 pm

Olly wrote:Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie

0-0 is better than the standard Hughton away game

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:23 pm

""It's a completely different challenge for Ian and a completely different challenge for us at the club.
"Ian's been very noble and he's come forward and said: 'I can't do it.' I've spent three days trying to get Ian in the frame of mind that he can do it.""

""I have to hold my hand up and say we didn't keep the spirit that got us up.
"We changed too much too quickly."
He added: "This club needs an impetus of energy - but I just feel tired to be honest. I'm worn out.""

It sounds very honest and no hard feelings but clear Holloway has left and not been sacked

by **Mat** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:40 pm

Olly wrote:Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie

You'd be guaranteed one away a season, Pulis won 5 on the trot at the Hawthorns!

by **Mat** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:41 pm

Mat wrote:
Olly wrote:Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie
You'd be guaranteed one away win a season, Pulis won 5 on the trot at the Hawthorns!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:43 pm

GSC wrote:
Olly wrote:Sorry but I don't care what results it bought, I wouldn't want a Pulis managing my club. It's just dour dour football, getting excited over throw ins and kicking opponents, sorry I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory.

Imagine going to an away game under Pulis, best result you could hope for would be 0-0. It's just Poopie
0-0 is better than the standard Hughton away game

Haha tell me about it

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:44 pm

And at least Holloway's realised he's completely out of his depth at this level

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 8:48 pm

I believe that he believes what he believes, but its a loser mentality to not stick it out.

Its sounds as though the owners have been trying nonstop to get him to stay.

Holloway is a great character, and should have kept going.

He got sprung by two wonder goals that on another day(95 out of 100) wouldn't have gone in.

Maybe its a blessing in disguise.. But holloway needs to sort his loyalty out. He seems abit ADD tbh,

Concentrates so hard and then just loses the plot when things go wrong. He can't push himself to the next level

by NickisBHAFC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 9:43 pm

GSC wrote:Howe didn't hack it at Burnley and ran home quickly I guess. I'd be worried about taking him on after that.

He was doing a fine work at Burnley but sadly his mum died so moved back down South for personal reasons. Can only respect him for that.

Took Bournemouth from the drop zone to 2nd spot. Superb job, has them close to the play offs. Great manager. Would like to see him become a Premiership manager, but if he joins the scum ill have to hate him! Palace should just get Pulis.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 9:58 pm

To be fair, I bet its been more exciting watching Stoke with their tails up than some of Norwich's stuff.

Style is a funny thing, I'm well placed really. The Big Sam debate is quite funny. I know we play alright football, I see 90 mins of it every week. When we're good, its on the floor. When we're struggling, its more direct. Thats because James Collins sees more of the ball, and I don't want James Collins trying to be clever. Since hes been out, Tomkins has shown hes a more composed footballer. Its not a football style thing, its what players do. But labels stick.

Pulis may bring a Stoke stereotype style. He will possibly adapt, as a football manager, to the players in his squad. Players play naturally. Decisions get made quickly.

Like I've said to Nick before, the likes of Poyet made me laugh in the Championship. They played some alright stuff in their flow, but could be schooled by tactical teams. We worked hard away and did them, let them have the balls in ineffective areas. At home, we knocked 6 past them and Poyet still thought he was Mr. Style.

On Poyet, I do wish people would stop thinking he got sacked on TV or that he was some sort of victim. Why must things be so definite and people so naive when it fits their narrative?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:02 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Pulis may bring a Stoke stereotype style. He will possibly adapt, as a football manager, to the players in his squad. Players play naturally. Decisions get made quickly.

Wasn't this part of the reason he got sacked by Stoke? Peeps wanted to see a progression in style, he didn't bring it after saying he would?

We're certainly better than we were last season style wise, looking to build from the back and through midfield more, rather than last year when it was pretty much hit Holt/Kamara and play off while defending stoutly

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:04 pm

I dont want pulis. I just dont want him.

But if he comes i will off course get right behind him

by Duty281 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:13 pm

Style?

What is the girl-like rubbish?

Winning is imperative. Winning is all that counts.

1-0 is the preferred score of the Englishman, especially when England have had to dig in against "superior" opposition. Hoof it up to the big man, hold it up, and unearth the spirit of Agincourt (598th anniversary on Friday).

As long as you win. None of this tika-taka, foreign rubbish.

by NickisBHAFC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:15 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:To be fair, I bet its been more exciting watching Stoke with their tails up than some of Norwich's stuff.

Style is a funny thing, I'm well placed really. The Big Sam debate is quite funny. I know we play alright football, I see 90 mins of it every week. When we're good, its on the floor. When we're struggling, its more direct. Thats because James Collins sees more of the ball, and I don't want James Collins trying to be clever. Since hes been out, Tomkins has shown hes a more composed footballer. Its not a football style thing, its what players do. But labels stick.

Pulis may bring a Stoke stereotype style. He will possibly adapt, as a football manager, to the players in his squad. Players play naturally. Decisions get made quickly.

Like I've said to Nick before, the likes of Poyet made me laugh in the Championship. They played some alright stuff in their flow, but could be schooled by tactical teams. We worked hard away and did them, let them have the balls in ineffective areas. At home, we knocked 6 past them and Poyet still thought he was Mr. Style.

On Poyet, I do wish people would stop thinking he got sacked on TV or that he was some sort of victim. Why must things be so definite and people so naive when it fits their narrative?

I acctually agree 100% with you there Chris. Yes last season we played some superb football (probably the best footballing side in the league at times) but not coming from behind at all last season speaks for itself, Poyet never had a plan b and never went direct. If you want to get out of the Championship you have to go direct, you need someone like big sam, mick McCarthy, Steve Bruce etc.

Also the bit i have in bold clap

Im not making out like im sort of big boy within the club, but i know enough people to know what went on etc.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:25 pm

The better style of football was actually what got you in the playoffs in the first place..

you will be lucky to get mid table this season, and i would rather watch palace getting beat 20 nil than sit through one of your games at the moment

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:27 pm

But I disagree that Big Sam should be labelled as just a direct manager. The best football comes from teams who can mix it up, outside of the true true elite, but that doesnt exist in most places. Owen Coyle was great at Bolton that first year when he mixed it between the strengths they had and playing nice stuff with Mark Davies (he may have come later, but there was some nice stuff) in the middle. He got done by this ideology of on the floor at all times and they got found out. Cant count how many European nights ive seen Man United frantic for a goal and its all direct.

If Holloway had added a bit more Pulis to Palace then they'd not look like lost little boys.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:29 pm

holloway clearly has gone insane..

I am already over him.

what manager quits and says things like "i just cant do it"

The dude needs some therapy before he gets another job.

by **Mat** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:32 pm

Duty281 wrote:Style?

What is the girl-like rubbish?

Winning is imperative. Winning is all that counts.

1-0 is the preferred score of the Englishman, especially when England have had to dig in against "superior" opposition. Hoof it up to the big man, hold it up, and unearth the spirit of Agincourt (598th anniversary on Friday).

As long as you win. None of this tika-taka, foreign rubbish.

That's why we've won sweet f.a since 1966, Football's moved on from that and we are only just catching up.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:33 pm

Thank gawd for arsenal thats all i can say!

by NickisBHAFC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:34 pm

mystiroakey wrote:The better style of football was actually what got you in the playoffs in the first place..

you will be lucky to get mid table this season, and i would rather watch palace getting beat 20 nil than sit through one of your games at the moment

Ill bite you're hand of for that!

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:36 pm

so do you prefer this style of football.?

why are you playing so bad?

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

Anyway getting into the prem for teams like palace or brighton is a case of "be careful of what you wish for"

I am counting the days till we are back in the best league in England.. Going up is for losers!!

by Duty281 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

Mat wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Style?

What is the girl-like rubbish?

Winning is imperative. Winning is all that counts.

1-0 is the preferred score of the Englishman, especially when England have had to dig in against "superior" opposition. Hoof it up to the big man, hold it up, and unearth the spirit of Agincourt (598th anniversary on Friday).

As long as you win. None of this tika-taka, foreign rubbish.
That's why we've won sweet f.a since 1966, Football's moved on from that and we are only just catching up.

If fate had only been a bit kinder, England could have won 4 World Cups and 2 European Championships by now.

Certainly, England weren't too far away from doing that. Perhaps they were just one game from the dream in 86, 90, 96, 02, and 04? Evidence perhaps, that England aren't that far away.

by GSC Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

It's best to win with style, but it's better to win without style than to lose with

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:39 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Mat wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Style?

What is the girl-like rubbish?

Winning is imperative. Winning is all that counts.

1-0 is the preferred score of the Englishman, especially when England have had to dig in against "superior" opposition. Hoof it up to the big man, hold it up, and unearth the spirit of Agincourt (598th anniversary on Friday).

As long as you win. None of this tika-taka, foreign rubbish.
That's why we've won sweet f.a since 1966, Football's moved on from that and we are only just catching up.
If fate had only been a bit kinder, England could have won 4 World Cups and 2 European Championships by now.

Certainly, England weren't too far away from doing that. Perhaps they were just one game from the dream in 86, 90, 96, 02, and 04? Evidence perhaps, that England aren't that far away.

and the only one of those tourneys that i remember with pride is euro 96 - because we played a good brand of football!

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:46 pm

What about 2004, oakey? That was brilliant.

by mystiroakey Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:48 pm

GSC wrote:It's best to win with style, but it's better to win without style than to lose with

i would rather be holland than greece(yes holland have won a euro back in 88 but even if they hadn't!)

by CFCNick Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:50 pm

Mysti. If Palace win the Champions League playing defensive football, soaking up pressure, you wouldn't care how little style their attack had.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 23 Oct 2013, 10:51 pm

That also doesnt allow for stature. If I was in Greece's shoes I think I'd rather be them.

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