Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

by GSC Sat 26 Oct 2013, 9:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

It was always going to be hard for Hughton.

The Norwich family never really took to him as one of their own

by mystiroakey Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:17 pm

yep betting is a mugs game especially if you cant afford it.

The amount is relative to the individual though.

I heard there are high profile footballers that have been getting PAYDAY Loans to fund their habits- These are footballers that could be clearing 40k a week!!

Bettings fun. But always stick to a budget you can afford.

no more that 5% of your earnings..

by CFCNick Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:18 pm

Vicky Pollard at Chelsea today. In the corner behind Ashley.

by kingraf Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:25 pm

Great advice on betting, Mystir. Personally, I believe - use your winnings to pay for future bets, thus avoiding dipping into your personal income. Only works if you have a reasonable success rate, of course.

by kingraf Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:25 pm

If you don't, you should probably stop betting anyway.

by Duty281 Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:31 pm

My advice on betting is very simple:

Get all the cash you can get your hands on, and then lump it on England to triumph in Brazil.

A sizeable return on that investment awaits next summer.

by NickisBHAFC Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:33 pm

O dear Nando should of scored

Lovely movement, he probably has the best movement of any striker in this league, but the shot was beyond dreadful. Great game so far.

by NickisBHAFC Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:33 pm

1-0 Chelsea

Tap in for Schurle, goal made by Torres, he did so well there to create that goal.

by NickisBHAFC Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:39 pm

What an effort by Torres!!!!! Chelsea bossing it.

by kingraf Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm

Just checked the odds - currently 20-25/1 for England to lift the gold in Brazil. Might not be the worst advice ever given Duty... Won't do it, but decent odds nonetheless.

Chelsea win this, and I can't see them not winning the league

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:41 pm

Torres is on #flames

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:49 pm

Some really good stuff from Chelsea in that first half. Torres looking very fizzy indeed.

City not really at the races yet.

by CFCNick Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:55 pm

On a betting note William Hill have Ibra at 9/2 to score two or more goals today.

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 4:56 pm

NUFC - horribly inconsistent, just a mess today - lucky equaliser really, although we dominated possession, we created nothing great. Dummett well out of depth, gouffran......did he even touch the ball, woeful signing. Cisse should be flogged. Just an appalling result, Sunderland are still dog••••.

Good to see Torres on fire, should be a good second half.

by NickisBHAFC Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:08 pm

What a ping from Sergio Aguero

1-1

by whocares Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:19 pm

Gouffran transfer was 4mil I think and yet earn more than Giroud apparently. Interesting debate that Giroud vs Caroll but might need to put things into perspective. Is Giroud over rated? Well depend what you were expexting... A 12mil euro price tag doesnt give you a worldclass striker nowadays. However if you get a honest hard working striker that does the required job with a smile then you got a good deal. Now how much west ham paid for Caroll?

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:32 pm

We paid too much for Carroll!! An over-rated waste of space!

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:36 pm

CF wrote:We paid too much for Carroll!! An over-rated waste of space!

Why did you spend £5 mil on him? he spent 18 months being utter rubbish at liverpool then went to west ham on loan and was very average for 12 months not scoring many goals.

Why did West ham then decide after 2 1/2 years of carroll being very average to spend 15 mil on him?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:38 pm

People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase

by JamesLincs Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm

1-0 spurs. absolutely desperate penalty shout from the players for handball and it was awarded, soldado calmly puts it away

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:40 pm

Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase

he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:41 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.

Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:43 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.

Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

by NickisBHAFC Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:44 pm

Agree with Olly

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:44 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:45 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

I am right and you know it Smile

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:47 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

I am right and you know it

No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:47 pm

he's useless, and i wish we never signed him!

by CFCNick Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm

TORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

I am right and you know it
No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.

7 goals and 4 assists, says it all

by CFCNick Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:49 pm

Thanks Hart and Nastasic I think

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:50 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

I am right and you know it
No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.
7 goals and 4 assists, says it all

Yes because stats are the be all and end all of football Rolling Eyes

by CFCNick Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:51 pm

Say what you want about Torres but you'll run out of fingers counting how many BIG goals he's scored!

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 5:54 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

I am right and you know it
No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.
7 goals and 4 assists, says it all
Yes because stats are the be all and end all of football

Well stats are something that is neutral, everything else is opinion.

I don't believe Carroll is worth 15 mil because he just doesn't score enough goals. 24 appearances and 7 goals for west ham last year. Season before that at liverpool he played 35 league games and scored 4 goals.

Add to the fact that Carroll is injury prone. He missed a large chunk of the 09-10 season. Missed a chunk of the 12-13 season and has already missed all of the 13-14 season so far.

by kingraf Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:01 pm

Absolutely nothing this weekend changed my view that it's Chelsea vs Arsenal for the title.

by kingraf Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:09 pm

Also, Carroll gets seriously unfair flak. Players (not named Ibrahimovich) dont evaluate themselves. Can't hold his fee against him. He's been decent enough in the England set-up to make me think he is probably above playing for West Ham (absolutely no offence meant in that to Hammers).

To paraphrase basketball commentator Stan van Gundy, "If you compare his cost with his output, it's always going to look bad"

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:23 pm

Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:27 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.

Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith thumbsup

by mystiroakey Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:34 pm

Gotta love mourinho..

Class act.

But Hart imploded.. Crazy decsion

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:42 pm

Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.
Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith

Don't worry he isn't agreeing with you because he agrees with you he is agreeing with you so that he can disagree with me.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:44 pm

Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.
Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith

carroll is not worth 15 million that is the debate. Lack of goals, lack of assists and injury prone = not worth 15 mil.

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:45 pm

Try watching him play instead of using statistics Chris, he's not a stats based player.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:45 pm

Carroll is worth every penny of the money we spent on him when hes on the field. Hopefully, the injuries dont keep coming, latest one is extremely unlucky. Im more depressed seeing CF post about West Ham, he is the definition of Poopie internet fan.

Carroll is a rather fantastic player. Better than Lambert, yet for some reason cos Liverpool overpaid for him it means hes a bad player. Theres no (proper) fans of football clubs he has played at that dont rate him.

On West Ham, good point today. Should have scored at least 2 in the first half. Swansea grew into it second half but dont look the team of last year, Europe is taking it out of them. All the chances were ours, happy to let them have possession in front of us. Only started having to hang on late on as players tired. Nolan is doing nothing to earn his place at the moment and is the only negative really. He needs Andy back as much as anyone else

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:50 pm

[quote="Hammersmith harrier"]Try watching him play instead of using statistics Chris, he's not a stats based player.[/quote]
He's always injured idea

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 27 Oct 2013, 6:56 pm

It's not worth wasting time on. Its a preconceived opinion that cant be changed. I've seen him smash very good defenders to pieces, I've seen him beat midfielders with a deft touch and spin, score headers from outside the area with his own power and strike balls sweeter than any player in the Premier League. Theres very few other strikers in the Premier League I would rather have, none at Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal definitely. Says a lot.

by Duty281 Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:09 pm

Carroll is a fantastic talent - at least he will be if he shakes off the injuries!

He's just a presence. Tall, strong, technically very good for a big man, and a cracking left foot to match. He also has a lovely array of deft skills in his inventory; touches, flicks, I even think I saw him do a Cruyff turn once!

Always feel he'll be part of a fantastic race for the England no.9 shirt with Sturridge for years to come. I remember that header he scored against Sweden at Euro 2012 - the sheer power of it!

Good to see Chelsea beat Citeh today - really hope Citeh don't finish top 4 this season. Tottenham have ground out another win. They're doing it without a fuss, much like Everton and Southampton, in the top half of the table.

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:16 pm

very happy with a 0-0 against swansea. Very good point and much needed clean sheet!

by Stella Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:31 pm

Is that both Manchester clubs out of the title race? A little premature possibly but I didn't fancy either before we started and I certainly don't now.

by Guest Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:39 pm

Said Swansea were not gr8 this season, bony/michu combo has not worked n they are just forcing their play - no rhythm chopping n changing the line up with Europa games. Always catches you out.

Completely agree with Olly on Carroll. Thought he was brilliant when he played, yeah he's not majorly prolific but his general play n bringing out the qualities of other people/wingers etc n providing Nolan with another double figure goal tally of knockdowns is clear.

Hart/Nastasic picard

Can't wait for Liverpool/Arsenal - what a test Sturridge/Suarez against Mertesacker! Should be interesting. None of the big guns r out the title, we`re in blimin` October.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:50 pm

Carroll is not worth 15 million. This season if he returns from injury will be his worst season ever.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:51 pm

John wrote:Said Swansea were not gr8 this season, bony/michu combo has not worked n they are just forcing their play - no rhythm chopping n changing the line up with Europa games. Always catches you out.

Completely agree with Olly on Carroll. Thought he was brilliant when he played, yeah he's not majorly prolific but his general play n bringing out the qualities of other people/wingers etc n providing Nolan with another double figure goal tally of knockdowns is clear.

Hart/Nastasic

Can't wait for Liverpool/Arsenal - what a test Sturridge/Suarez against Mertesacker! Should be interesting. None of the big guns r out the title, we`re in blimin` October.

Bony has not been that impressive but it is his 1st season in a new league.

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