Eng v Aus match thread + build up

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Tue 29 Oct - 23:09

First topic message reminder :

Chance to chat about the game.
I think it will be a real cracker with England to take it by around 8 points or more.
I know every game is important but the management must have this penciled in as a must win because they can win it if they play it right.

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 14:55

we're starting to get pinned back into our half

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 14:56

another different colour for england then

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 14:58

somewhere near the scrum lol

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:00

was that half the england team clearing that ruck lol

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:00

George Clancy giving another classic England performance here. Such a homer.

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:01

GloriousEmpire wrote:George Clancy giving another classic England performance here. Such a homer.

i see your giving us another of your own classic performances, what a donkey.

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:02

Sod off GE. Whinge whinge whinge. do you ever make a positive post?

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:02

Don't feed the trolls chaps

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:03

I've never seen so many attacking players off their feet and diving into the ruck since last time England were permitted do ignore the laws at twickenham.

by BamBam Sat 2 Nov - 15:03

I love Billy V

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:03

Clancy needs to get his other eye open

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:04

12trees ahhhh

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:05

GloriousEmpire wrote:Clancy needs to get his other eye open

nobody cares what you think.

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:06

Inevitable. Only one team making any territory with the ball. Ashton bad miss on the tackle but even so - speed and varied passing is the difference.

by Geordie Sat 2 Nov - 15:06

GE go somewhere else and don't spoil this one with your rubbish.

Back to the game how are we behind in this game. The Aussie are poor

by Full Credit Sat 2 Nov - 15:06

7 to 1 penalty count...what a joke.

by doctor_grey Sat 2 Nov - 15:06

awful.

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:06

I suggest everyone reports GE

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:07

I thought Twelvetrees could tackle? I'm disappointed.

by butterfingers Sat 2 Nov - 15:07

Typical AI opener, SH team at 100%, NH team at 60%.

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:08

TJ wrote:I suggest everyone reports GE

it's alright, he'll probably get one of those texts from the government.

by BamBam Sat 2 Nov - 15:08

Anyone can miss a tackle BF

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:09

That's all I was talking about. Clancy finally spots the English tackler falling over the tackled player to obstruct the attacking ruck. At least he's onto it now!

by butterfingers Sat 2 Nov - 15:10

BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF

? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.

by Hood83 Sat 2 Nov - 15:11

GloriousEmpire wrote:I've never seen so many attacking players off their feet and diving into the ruck since last time England were permitted do ignore the laws at twickenham.

I actually agree we got some lucky calls re this, looks like Clancy is tightening up on this now though.

by BamBam Sat 2 Nov - 15:12

Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:12

farrel and dickson to come off for flood and youngs?

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:13

Dreadful block on the chasing tackler from England - how was that not given?

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:13

yellow card up next for oz

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:13

Good yep. Clancy now suddenly spotting the guys leaping off their feet too. He must've got a tune up from an assistant

by Hood83 Sat 2 Nov - 15:13

This is useless. What happens when you have zero running threat in the backs. Re the try - Taylorman called it perfectly, wide and flat pass from Coops setting it off.

by GloriousEmpire Sat 2 Nov - 15:13

TJ wrote:Dreadful block on the chasing tackler from England - how was that not given?

Yep and then he blatantly ran around a blocking runner. Shocking.

by mystiroakey Sat 2 Nov - 15:15

That was frustrating.

by butterfingers Sat 2 Nov - 15:15

BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time

No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:16

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF
? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.

I thought rested players had the advantage Whistle

? so we are told for the HC

(sorry - couldn't resist)

by Hood83 Sat 2 Nov - 15:16

Oz deservingly with the lead. We've offered absolutely nothing at all.

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:16

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.

hopefully, Dickson needs to improve and get the tempo into the game that he was brought in for

by doctor_grey Sat 2 Nov - 15:16

Farrell is not getting it done.
I would bring on Flood quickly.

by mystiroakey Sat 2 Nov - 15:17

brown and vunipula look decent. Farrell in his general play and kicking is killing us though.

Time for Flood.

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:17

TJ wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF
? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.
I thought rested players had the advantage ? so we are told for the HC

(sorry - couldn't resist)

well do resist!! Wink

by doctor_grey Sat 2 Nov - 15:17

I don't think Dickson is the problem. We need the ball.
Need to not kick it away. Need to keep hitting on forwards.

by ChequeredJersey Sat 2 Nov - 15:18

Oz deserve the lead, we are just being loose at the end of promising drives, and can't afford to leave points on the field, or just kick the ball back

by TJ Sat 2 Nov - 15:18

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Youngs and Flood come on early. Farrell just looks slow between the ears and too conservative / risk averse. compare what he has done to what Cooper has done

by ChequeredJersey Sat 2 Nov - 15:19

Also, can't build pressure (in fact build it on yourself) if you can't get simple kicks

by doctor_grey Sat 2 Nov - 15:19

ChequeredJersey wrote:Oz deserve the lead, we are just being loose at the end of promising drives, and can't afford to leave points on the field, or just kick the ball back

absolute

by nathan Sat 2 Nov - 15:19

TJ wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Youngs and Flood come on early. Farrell just looks slow between the ears and too conservative / risk averse. compare what he has done to what Cooper has done

lol, I'm sorry but Cooper is at the other end of the scale. Too risky at times!

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 2 Nov - 15:19

Are England trying to bore the Aussies into submission?
Got to do a lot better than that,see more intensity from a Sunday league team.

by butterfingers Sat 2 Nov - 15:20

Whats Flood going to offer though, he'll be flatter, and look to attack the line more, but who do we have off him, Robshaw and Wood aren't offering that line, and 36 is staying at a receiver role.

We need some incision, wheres the Ashton inside option? a crash from centre, Billy V can't be our only threat!

For the record I think Aus are looking very average, they're offering little, and if we can just get a bit more fluid should have too much for them.

by kingelderfield Sat 2 Nov - 15:21

you could say the next 40 are crucial for lancasters tenure - then again the die has long been cast

by Knowsit17 Sat 2 Nov - 15:21

Australia's attacking intent was the difference of that half, they're looking penetrative and more likely to score tries on the front foot. England's pack is more than coping physically but the lineout is depriving them of valuable possession. The scrum looks like their main weapon but Farrell hasn't converted nearly enough pressure. Folau has been the architect for Australia, very good technical duel between the fullbacks.

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