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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Tue 29 Oct 2013, 11:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

Chance to chat about the game.
I think it will be a real cracker with England to take it by around 8 points or more.
I know every game is important but the management must have this penciled in as a must win because they can win it if they play it right.

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 2:55 pm

we're starting to get pinned back into our half

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 2:56 pm

another different colour for england then

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 2:58 pm

somewhere near the scrum lol

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:00 pm

was that half the england team clearing that ruck lol

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:00 pm

George Clancy giving another classic England performance here. Such a homer.

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:01 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:George Clancy giving another classic England performance here. Such a homer.
i see your giving us another of your own classic performances, what a donkey.

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

Sod off GE. Whinge whinge whinge. do you ever make a positive post?

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

Don't feed the trolls chaps

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

I've never seen so many attacking players off their feet and diving into the ruck since last time England were permitted do ignore the laws at twickenham.

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Post by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

I love Billy V

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:03 pm

Clancy needs to get his other eye open

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

12trees ahhhh

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:05 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Clancy needs to get his other eye open
nobody cares what you think.

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

Inevitable. Only one team making any territory with the ball. Ashton bad miss on the tackle but even so - speed and varied passing is the difference.

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Post by Geordie Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

GE go somewhere else and don't spoil this one with your rubbish.

Back to the game how are we behind in this game. The Aussie are poor

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Post by Full Credit Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

7 to 1 penalty count...what a joke.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

awful.

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

I suggest everyone reports GE

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:07 pm

I thought Twelvetrees could tackle? I'm disappointed.

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Post by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:07 pm

Typical AI opener, SH team at 100%, NH team at 60%.

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:08 pm

TJ wrote:I suggest everyone reports GE
it's alright, he'll probably get one of those texts from the government.

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Post by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:08 pm

Anyone can miss a tackle BF

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:09 pm

That's all I was talking about. Clancy finally spots the English tackler falling over the tackled player to obstruct the attacking ruck. At least he's onto it now!

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Post by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:10 pm

BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF
? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:11 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:I've never seen so many attacking players off their feet and diving into the ruck since last time England were permitted do ignore the laws at twickenham.
I actually agree we got some lucky calls re this, looks like Clancy is tightening up on this now though.

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Post by BamBam Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:12 pm

Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:12 pm

farrel and dickson to come off for flood and youngs?

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Dreadful block on the chasing tackler from England - how was that not given?

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

yellow card up next for oz

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

Good yep. Clancy now suddenly spotting the guys leaping off their feet too. He must've got a tune up from an assistant

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Post by Hood83 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

This is useless. What happens when you have zero running threat in the backs. Re the try - Taylorman called it perfectly, wide and flat pass from Coops setting it off.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:13 pm

TJ wrote:Dreadful block on the chasing tackler from England - how was that not given?
Yep and then he blatantly ran around a blocking runner. Shocking.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:15 pm

That was frustrating.

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Post by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:15 pm

BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
Laugh  No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.

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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF
? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.
I thought rested players had the advantage Whistle ? so we are told for the HC

(sorry - couldn't resist)

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Post by Hood83 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

Oz deservingly with the lead. We've offered absolutely nothing at all.

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
Laugh  No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.
hopefully, Dickson needs to improve and get the tempo into the game that he was brought in for

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:16 pm

Farrell is not getting it done.
I would bring on Flood quickly.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

brown and vunipula look decent. Farrell in his general play and kicking is killing us though.

Time for Flood.

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

TJ wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Anyone can miss a tackle BF
? I was refering to the difference in intensity and error count, we are making lots of silly mistakes right now, because we are cold, whereas Aus are battle hardened and aren't making the same errors.
I thought rested players had the advantage Whistle ?  so we are told for the HC

(sorry - couldn't resist)
well do resist!! Wink 

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

I don't think Dickson is the problem. We need the ball.
Need to not kick it away. Need to keep hitting on forwards.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:18 pm

Oz deserve the lead, we are just being loose at the end of promising drives, and can't afford to leave points on the field, or just kick the ball back
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Post by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:18 pm

butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
Laugh  No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Youngs and Flood come on early. Farrell just looks slow between the ears and too conservative / risk averse. compare what he has done to what Cooper has done

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

Also, can't build pressure (in fact build it on yourself) if you can't get simple kicks
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Post by doctor_grey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Oz deserve the lead, we are just being loose at the end of promising drives, and can't afford to leave points on the field, or just kick the ball back
absolute

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Post by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

TJ wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh sorry mate, I meant GE and was reading your post at the same time
Laugh  No problemo.

We look disjointed, our attacking threat isn't fluid,, the longer this game goes on for the better we should get, especially with such experience and quality on the bench.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Youngs and Flood come on early.   Farrell just looks slow between the ears and too conservative / risk averse.  compare what he has done to what Cooper has done
lol, I'm sorry but Cooper is at the other end of the scale. Too risky at times!

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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:19 pm

Are England trying to bore the Aussies into submission?
Got to do a lot better than that,see more intensity from a Sunday league team.

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Post by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:20 pm

Whats Flood going to offer though, he'll be flatter, and look to attack the line more, but who do we have off him, Robshaw and Wood aren't offering that line, and 36 is staying at a receiver role.

We need some incision, wheres the Ashton inside option? a crash from centre, Billy V can't be our only threat!

For the record I think Aus are looking very average, they're offering little, and if we can just get a bit more fluid should have too much for them.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

you could say the next 40 are crucial for lancasters tenure - then again the die has long been cast


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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 3:21 pm

Australia's attacking intent was the difference of that half, they're looking penetrative and more likely to score tries on the front foot. England's pack is more than coping physically but the lineout is depriving them of valuable possession. The scrum looks like their main weapon but Farrell hasn't converted nearly enough pressure. Folau has been the architect for Australia, very good technical duel between the fullbacks.

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