Eng v Aus match thread + build up

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Tue 29 Oct 2013, 11:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

Chance to chat about the game.
I think it will be a real cracker with England to take it by around 8 points or more.
I know every game is important but the management must have this penciled in as a must win because they can win it if they play it right.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Pulling down a ruck on your line is legal now

robshaw was on the ball carrier...

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:15 pm

Penalty advantage. No forward progress made, a couple of recycles. No advantage gained. Go back for the pen.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:15 pm

TJ wrote:Penalty advantage. No forward progress made, a couple of recycles. No advantage gained. Go back for the pen.

they made about 10 meters?

by Breadvan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:15 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Best thing if this is the final score we can hear all about how good England are from their fans
Words like dominated and ran rings around them will be spun

Like we've heard nothing from you since March and then the Lions? Oh view.....

by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:16 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.

If we're asking questions about certain performances you might get stripped a world cup win Laugh

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:16 pm

Told you Will Greenwood already papering over the cracks, Glorious hammering it will be dubbed by this time tomorrow with a flawless display.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:16 pm

butterfingers wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.
If we're asking questions about certain performances you might get stripped a world cup win

ooooh harsh! lol

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:17 pm

nathan wrote:
TJ wrote:Penalty advantage. No forward progress made, a couple of recycles. No advantage gained. Go back for the pen.
they made about 10 meters?

Not nearly enough. Must be as a minimum a scoring opportunity.

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:17 pm

butterfingers wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.
If we're asking questions about certain performances you might get stripped a world cup win

boys, this game has nothing to do with any other game.

Wrong is wrong.

by LeinsterFan4life Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:17 pm

Scrums are a complete lottery. Ive seen scrums like that go to the opposition for wheeling 90.

Its not the refs fault its the IRB's for destroying scrums. Its meant to just restart games.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:18 pm

Is Mike Brown the greatest full back ever?

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:18 pm

TJ wrote:
nathan wrote:
TJ wrote:Penalty advantage. No forward progress made, a couple of recycles. No advantage gained. Go back for the pen.
they made about 10 meters?
Not nearly enough. Must be as a minimum a scoring opportunity.

really, is that in the laws as i havent heard of it before?

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:19 pm

Biltong wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.
If we're asking questions about certain performances you might get stripped a world cup win
boys, this game has nothing to do with any other game.

Wrong is wrong.

then what are views posts about?

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:19 pm

Yes brown is quality.

No surprises with MOTM.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:19 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Scrums are a complete lottery. Ive seen scrums like that go to the opposition for wheeling 90.

Its not the refs fault its the IRB's for destroying scrums. Its meant to just restart games.

Agreed

by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:19 pm

nathan wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:
butterfingers wrote:
TJ wrote:I hate whinging about refs but the bad decisions have slanted this game hugely. If England win this one then Aus can rightly feel robbed. ruined the game as the best side are behind
Disagree, the team who have had plenty more time together and in their stride already are behind, we are far more inexperienced and as the game goes on we are gelling better and better.
They're only behind because of two absolute referee shockers - about which serious questions must be asked.
If we're asking questions about certain performances you might get stripped a world cup win
ooooh harsh! lol

Maybe, but I knew we would struggle early on, and get stronger as we used our bench, to claim we only scored through reffing howlers is pretty disrespectfull.

Overall we have been the better of 2 average on the day performances, Aus look nervous and we are inexperienced but will take a lot from this type of win.

by GloriousEmpire Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:19 pm

Insult to injury - mike brown named man of the match for having his feet in touch without being seen by the officials.

The begin of the rewriting of history by the poms.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:20 pm

Does this mean that England should have had more Lions now?

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:20 pm

We out played them and won. Its that simple..Not the best game but a win is a win.

by doctor_grey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:20 pm

ugly, ugly win.
will scare no one.
But signs of life?

by GunsGerms Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:21 pm

Australia only have themselves to blame. They were very weak all match. If England had any clue what to do with their posession it could have been a rout. Both teams weak.

by Geordie Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:21 pm

Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:21 pm

Bad luck Wallabies, it is one of those games where things just don't go your way.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

England got one hand on the 2015 World cup after this massacre.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Does this mean that England should have had more Lions now?

the lions have been and gone, i know you dont want to let it go because there were many welsh players in it but let it go. Just like you tell english fans to forget about 2003.

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys

Based on that performance, I don't think so.

by Taylorman Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

well done england. Second half pressure told, Cant be bothered going on about the ref, oz made too many mistakes second half. Can't say Hansen will be shaking in his boots but a wins a win...well done England!

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:22 pm

doctor_grey wrote:ugly, ugly win.
will scare no one.
But signs of life?

nearing the end i think so. We also missed 3 kicks to Aus 2.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:23 pm

A win is a win biltong. I know you like morale loses over wins these days.. But winning is what matters mate thumbsup

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys

what nonsense - nearly as bad as the welsh. aus were robbed by poor decisions. No question at all. England were second best until they had the stuffing knocked out of them by a series of bad decisions cost them 14 pts. England looked poor. Struggled to beat a poor Aus side even with the refs mistakes going their way

by butterfingers Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys

+1 not sure why the hatred is coming this way, I generally want the 6N teams to perform well against the SH teams, yes we rode our luck and yes we got the rub of the green, but lets be honest everyone has the odd game that goes against them, and the odd game that goes for, you have to capitolise on the games you get the luck, and we did.

As muggy as this game was, it's a win for a young and inexperienced team looking toward the next world cup clap

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm

Biltong wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys
Based on that performance, I don't think so.

Your right, must just be the general bile towards england...

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm

Win is a win.
Good teams win ugly.
Other nations fear us if they don't kiss up to the result.
Building for the future.
It's all about the win.

Oh dear the spin is making dizzy.

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

mystiroakey wrote:A win is a win biltong. I know you like morale loses over wins these days.. But winning is what matters mate

Moral losses?

What are you on about?

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

Forgot ground out victory.

by GunsGerms Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

Think NZ will have to get the ebola virus for England to come close this November.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

TJ wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys
what nonsense - nearly as bad as the welsh. aus were robbed by poor decisions. No question at all. England were second best until they had the stuffing knocked out of them by a series of bad decisions cost them 14 pts. England looked poor. Struggled to beat a poor Aus side even with the refs mistakes going their way

blah blah blah, you don't half talk Poopie.

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:25 pm

nathan wrote:
Biltong wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys
Based on that performance, I don't think so.
Your right, must just be the general bile towards england...

Agree with that.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:26 pm

Biltong wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:A win is a win biltong. I know you like morale loses over wins these days.. But winning is what matters mate
Moral losses?

What are you on about?

You banging on about how good you were in your last loss!

What are you going on about?

by trebellbobaggins Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:26 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Australia only have themselves to blame. They were very weak all match. If England had any clue what to do with their posession it could have been a rout. Both teams weak.

#

wasn't vintage but if they are weak then we might as well accept everyone bar NZ and SA are weak.

by GLove39 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:26 pm

Fair play England. Scrappy game, but a wins a win.
If it wasn't for the fact that the Wallabies are playing Italy I'd say they were on course for a white wash.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:26 pm

this site really does seem to be filling up with a bunch of a holes...

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:27 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Think NZ will have to get the ebola virus for England to come close this November.

How long is the incubation period for the Ebola virus. Might have to time it well though.

by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:27 pm

butterfingers wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Love all this hatred and bile towards England. I think a few people are starting to worry about England...

Well done boys
+1 not sure why the hatred is coming this way, I generally want the 6N teams to perform well against the SH teams, yes we rode our luck and yes we got the rub of the green, but lets be honest everyone has the odd game that goes against them, and the odd game that goes for, you have to capitolise on the games you get the luck, and we did.

As muggy as this game was, it's a win for a young and inexperienced team looking toward the next world cup

I don't i just want Wales to win and any other game to entertain me regardless of the result.
But that polished turd served up on a plate this afternoon wont get the slightest bit of respect from me, awful game.

by GunsGerms Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:27 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Australia only have themselves to blame. They were very weak all match. If England had any clue what to do with their posession it could have been a rout. Both teams weak.
#

wasn't vintage but if they are weak then we might as well accept everyone bar NZ and SA are weak.

Wales are better than both those teams IMO right now.

by mystiroakey Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:28 pm

England cant win anything can they- this site is a joke/

by Hood83 Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:28 pm

The interviewer has just asked two of the worst, most leading and snidey questions. Utterly classless. Ben Mowen seems a good bloke, was perfectly entitled to question the ref but didn't.

Normally hate winning games like that where we're massively helped, but the thought of GE's burst blood vessels sort of evens it out.

by TJ Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:28 pm

1)

there is no hatered towards england expressed - disgust at the poor referreeing that robbed Aus and attacks (justified) on how the english press will spin this.

2) No one will be scared of that performance. It was mince. Pure mince.

by nathan Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:28 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Australia only have themselves to blame. They were very weak all match. If England had any clue what to do with their posession it could have been a rout. Both teams weak.
#

wasn't vintage but if they are weak then we might as well accept everyone bar NZ and SA are weak.
Wales are better than both those teams IMO right now.

How can you possible say that without seeing them play?
Laugh

by **Biltong** Sat 02 Nov 2013, 4:28 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Biltong wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:A win is a win biltong. I know you like morale loses over wins these days.. But winning is what matters mate
Moral losses?

What are you on about?
You banging on about how good you were in your last loss!

What are you going on about?

Again, as I have reminded you last time. Complimenting Meyer on believing attacking rugby is the way forward for the Boks is not a moral victory, but rather a congratulations to Meyer for not wanting to play an antiquated game plan.

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