Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

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Swansea 3-2 Stoke

What has happened to Stoke's defence

[Crimey]

One of the problems with Carroll is that he usually takes a while to get back up and running after injuries, and so requires a lot of game time without contributing a lot. By the time he's back to close to his best, he usually gets injured again.

[socal1976]

Good second half saved an awful first half of the match. Chamakh scores someone alert the people at Guiness. I can't believe this guy used to play at Arsenal. West Ham has some good players Downing, Ravel, Nolan and Diame yet they seem to be underachieving.

[Lumbering_Jack]

One of the problems with Carroll is that he usually takes a while to get back up and running after injuries, and so requires a lot of game time without contributing a lot. By the time he's back to close to his best, he usually gets injured again.

I think the main problem with Carroll is that he isn't a very good player. It's unbelievable that he has transfer fee's if almost 60 million. His agent must be laughing all the way to the bank.

[TopHat24/7]

Ravael looks class . Looked to play so within himself though. Could have done much more. The only moment he wakes up is at the end to throw a slap..

Yet hes about 20 years old and every player in our team looks to him when they have the ball. He needs a proper striker to play off. First half he had Nolan in his way, second half everyone was devoid of ability.

Remember Rio saying that Ravel was, alongside Pogba and Januzaj, the most talented young footballer he'd ever trained with (i.e. including the academy legends he came through with like Lamps, Cole & Carrick). Said he just lacked application.

[Guest]

One of the problems with Carroll is that he usually takes a while to get back up and running after injuries, and so requires a lot of game time without contributing a lot. By the time he's back to close to his best, he usually gets injured again.

I think the main problem with Carroll is that he isn't a very good player. It's unbelievable that he has transfer fee's if almost 60 million. His agent must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Bet you weren't saying that when Carroll was single handedly carrying Newcastle back in the day. Was terrific for us, playing in a team which plays to his strengths. Scored around 15 goals for us in the EPL, he has ability no doubt & has performed on the International stage too. Remember back at the Emirates a few year back after Carroll had won us the game 1-0 & had battered the Arsenal defence. We were singing Carroll's name all day, were you?

So easy to slate a player when their injured & not performing. If anything Carroll last year at WH was terrific when fit & I'm sure he'll do the same again.

[compelling and rich]

problem is john other than that season and half at newcastle he has very rarely not been injured or performing. 6 goals (league) in 3 years at Liverpool, 7 goals in two years at west ham. 13 goals in 5 years is simply not good enough no matter what the excuse and certainly isn't worth the outlay put on him

[Guest]

No doubting his injury record or extortionate fees being paid. I was just stating he's a good player in a team which plays to his strengths, is direct, and solely has him as the main focus. Liverpool did not do that, therefore he was obviously going to fail, not sure why they were surprised. I was just stating that Lumbering_Jack (who is a NUFC supporter I believe) can't go around saying he's not a very good player, when he was magnificent for us & was carrying us for 18 months.

[compelling and rich]

i agree with your point that he's a handful if you play to his style, i just feel at the moment its a bit of a "if my aunt had bo!!ocks she be my uncle" as he's never fully fit. a average player playing week in week out is better than a good player who never plays, i also dont think carroll is just extremely unlucky with injuries. i get the impression he doesnt look after himself well enough to keep with being a professional footballer. the suggestion he needs games to keep fit goes along with this

[Guest]

No doubting his injury record or extortionate fees being paid. I was just stating he's a good player in a team which plays to his strengths, is direct, and solely has him as the main focus. Liverpool did not do that, therefore he was obviously going to fail, not sure why they were surprised. I was just stating that Lumbering_Jack (who is a NUFC supporter I believe) can't go around saying he's not a very good player, when he was magnificent for us & was carrying us for 18 months.

It was his performance against LFC when Newcastle won 3-1 (I think he scored twice) that probably convinced us to buy him once Torres went. I was sceptical and really only due to the ridiculous price tag but as I've said before, once every man and his dog knew LFC had £50million quid, it was open season. He had an indifferent start but his application was first rate and by the time the Cup Final came around, he looked as though he may become a decent asset.

Wasn't Carroll's fault that Rodgers simply didn't fancy him in the team and I think his injuries made it easier to off-load him. One can only hope the same things goes for Joe Allen who surely is surely not only drinking in the last chance saloon but getting his coat on after ringing for a taxi home.

[Guest]

that really was a poor result last night! We need to be winning against teams like Palace, and i fear for the game against Liverpool at the weekend.

[mystiroakey]

    

[JamesLincs]

any preds tonight people?

Arsenal 2-0 Hull
Fulham 2-3 Spurs
Liverpool 2-1 Norwich
Man Utd 1-1 Everton
Southampton 2-0 Aston Villa
Stoke 1-0 Cardiff
Sunderland 1-2 Chelsea
Swansea 2-2 Newcastle
West Brom 1-1 Man City

[Fernando]

Id scrap the 2-0 to Arsenal, Bendtner is starting  

They've pretty gone yeah this is too easy so we're start playing with 10 men instead.

[JamesLincs]

1.2bn/1 btw on those 9 results happening

[Fernando]

Stranger things have happened like the Coral bet guy got 15 right and won £1m

[mystiroakey]

Yeah people also win the lottery each week as well

[JamesLincs]

haha id say his were more likely. i remember he did pick sheffield wednesday to win. he probably supports every team he picked now

[mystiroakey]

I went for a 6 fold myself .. Already 1 result up with my faithful palace

[Guest]

Having failed to really make any waves at Old Trafford I think tonight is make or break for fellaini. He should be fired up for tonight against his old club and really have a point to prove to the United fans who haven't really taken to him and the Everton fans who laughed that they got so much money for him

If he has a stinker then I think the fans will get on his back more and more

[mystiroakey]

Fellani will have a shocker, get subbed and Everton fans will clap him off in irony

[Fernando]

Unless United get a foothold early i could see Everton playing United off the park with their current form & Lukaku

[Guest]

Arsenal 3-0 Hull
Fulham 0-3 Spurs
Liverpool 2-0 Norwich
Man.U 1-0 Everton
Southampton 0-0 Villa
Stoke 1-0 Cardiff
Sunderland 0-3 Chelsea
Swansea 1-2 Newcastle
West brom 0-3 Man.C

[JamesLincs]

hahaha

[Fernando]

Arsenal 1-0 Hull - Bendtner 

[Guest]

[Guest]

Chamakh last night and Bendtner tonight

Surely signs of an impending apocolypse

[Guest]

and Carlton Cole last weekend!

[Fernando]

It's epically hilarious. The way Hull are playing it's going to be a more of how many will Arsenal score. 11 Players in their half

[JamesLincs]

sandro too. hes only hit 3 since coming to england

[Guest]

cant believe none of these games are live!

[Fernando]

This is something that surprised me aswell CF 9 games and 0 on tv

[Crimey]

Joe Allen is awful, devastated that he's starting. Already looks out of his depth.

[Crimey]

I thought Swansea/Newcastle is on BT Sport?

[Guest]

This is something that surprised me aswell CF 9 games and 0 on tv

ridiclous to be honest.

[Fernando]

I thought Swansea/Newcastle is on BT Sport?

Not a clue ain't got BT Sport 

[Guest]

i meant the proper channels

[Fernando]

Sunderland 1-0 Chelsea - Altidore

[Fernando]

The world is coming to an end 

[mystiroakey]

Lol the worst striker in the world has scored against Chelsea?..

And the second worst for arsenal.

[Fernando]

Southampton 0-1 Villa - Agbonlahor

[Guest]

well there's my 0-0 predo gone then lol

[Fernando]

Liverpool 1-0 Norwich - Suarez 40 yard lob

[Crimey]

Suarez has just scored a wonder goal, will be hard to beat that for goal of the season.

[mystiroakey]

Normal service has resumed.. Suarez scores for Liverpool

[Fernando]

Sunderland 1-1 Chelsea - Lampard

[Guest]

games off to a cracking start tonight, all around the country!

[mystiroakey]

I have a feeling the game on telly is going to be a 0-0 lol

[mystiroakey]

Swansea 220 passes to 30 from Newcastle 22 mins in

[Fernando]

  Crikey , I bet Newcastle score 1st though 

[Fernando]

Liverpool 2-0 Norwich - Suarez x2

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