Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by **Pr4wn** Sat 04 Jan 2014, 4:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

Strong staff for us, I'm excited for next season!

by Guest Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:53 am

What a tense final drive but the defense come good at the right time

In other news ive one at least £80 as I had money on both denver and seattle at the beginning of the season Smile

by mikeygnfl Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:06 am

So the two teams in the playoffs I least want in the Super Bowl are in the Super Bowl. Surprised the 49ers didn't try atleast one run play at the end.

by mikeygnfl Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:43 am

A lot of fuss about Sherman's post game comments. Not bothered myself about a reaction like that. What does the media expect when they shove a microphone in an athlete's face straight after a game/ performance other that adrenaline and passion?

by Bull Mon 20 Jan 2014, 7:53 am

Now that the Seahawks are in the SB will see the return of Cherries?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 7:54 am

mikeygnfl wrote:So the two teams in the playoffs I least want in the Super Bowl are in the Super Bowl. Surprised the 49ers didn't try atleast one run play at the end.

Yeah not sure I could stomach a Manning love in win, or a drugged up Seattle win.

Think Seattle will win annyways, that defence might be too much for Manning and co to overcome. Can cover man to man, and have one serious pass rush. But Denver's D should stop Lynch, just whether Wilson can make enough plays or not

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 8:44 am

mikeygnfl wrote:A lot of fuss about Sherman's post game comments. Not bothered myself about a reaction like that. What does the media expect when they shove a microphone in an athlete's face straight after a game/ performance other that adrenaline and passion?

He's utter trash. He's supposed to be a professional athlete. Disgraceful.

by BamBam Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:05 am

I've always liked Peyton Manning. I really hope Demaryius Thomas destroys that Muppet Sherman too

And no I'm not bitter at all

by CFCNick Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:23 am

mikeygnfl wrote:A lot of fuss about Sherman's post game comments. Not bothered myself about a reaction like that. What does the media expect when they shove a microphone in an athlete's face straight after a game/ performance other that adrenaline and passion?

I've got no problem with what he said. But, you don't watch hockey do you? A lot more composure in the heat of winning a big playoff round.

by BamBam Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:26 am

CFCNick wrote:
mikeygnfl wrote:A lot of fuss about Sherman's post game comments. Not bothered myself about a reaction like that. What does the media expect when they shove a microphone in an athlete's face straight after a game/ performance other that adrenaline and passion?

I've got no problem with what he said. But, you don't watch hockey do you? A lot more composure in the heat of winning a big playoff round.

Must be the ice Whistle

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:52 am

The two best teams in the NFL are headed to New York.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 10:56 am

Shermans earned the right to talk. He just won the NFCCG. If Crabtree didn't like it he should've shut him up on the field

by Skyforger Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:07 am

As I said yesterday, full credit to Denver and hope they beat the Seahawks.

But having seen it again, that hit by Welker on Talib was sick and more than a bit cynical.

by BamBam Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:12 am

Also, feel so bad for Navarro Bowman. Best LB in the NFL, and he made one hell of a play when he got injured, just a blown call by the refs.

Really hope he can come back at the same level next year

by **Pr4wn** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:22 am

What exactly did Sherman say? I heard it but I didn't understand it...

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:24 am

GSC wrote:Shermans earned the right to talk. He just won the NFCCG. If Crabtree didn't like it he should've shut him up on the field

There's talking and then there's screaming down the camera like he did. No class. Didn't see any Denver players do anything like that.

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:25 am

Pr4wn wrote:What exactly did Sherman say? I heard it but I didn't understand it...

After the game, Sherman then verbally went after Crabtree in an interview with sideline reporter Erin Andrews.

"I'm the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that is the result you are going to get. Don't you ever talk about me," Sherman shouted.

Andrews then asked, "Who was talking about you?"

"Crabtree. Don't you open your mouth about the best, or I'm going to shut it for you really quick," Sherman screamed.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:26 am

That's how NFL players are though. They play emotional. He just won the NFCCG for crying out loud. Sherman might not be the best sport ever but I don't see what he did wrong

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:27 am

Be interesting the contracts Kaepernick and Newton get. Kaepernick might resolve for a Flacco/Cutler type year

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:29 am

If say Rogers had won the game and done the same, would we be talking as much?

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:32 am

GSC wrote:That's how NFL players are though. They play emotional. He just won the NFCCG for crying out loud. Sherman might not be the best sport ever but I don't see what he did wrong

No. That's how Sherman is. Just because he can't handle his emotions doesn't excuse him from that classless outburst. Didn't see any other players completely avoid the question asked to them and just scream nonsense at the interviewer in an aggressive manner.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:36 am

Even by answering that question you answer my other. It's because it's Richard Sherman, king of the trash talkers

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:39 am

GSC wrote:Even by answering that question you answer my other. It's because it's Richard Sherman, king of the trash talkers

So we should excuse him "because it's Richard Sherman"?

by **Pr4wn** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:41 am

Also, he had a point. Crabtree loves some chat and he got owned.

by **Pr4wn** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 11:42 am

The media know he's like that and that's why they shoved a camera in his face after he made the game-winning play.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:18 pm

Whenever Sherman opens his mouth people want to get on him for trash talking or being classless.

Pr4wn has a point, Crabtree loves to run his mouth as well, Sherman won. To the victor go the spoils and all that.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:24 pm

Yeah I'm with GSC here, he's earnt the right tbf to him. He's an utter tw@t but man is he good.

Honestly can't see past a Seattle win in New Jersey. Especially if the weather is bad

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:28 pm

Seattle isn't the same team outside of Seattle. Can't call a winner yet

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:30 pm

You also can't discount the big game experience of Peyton and the Broncos. Saw it last year, the 49ers stuttered out the gate while the Ravens started fast.

by BamBam Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:32 pm

Yeah I think Sherman is an utter Mr Winklechops, but he is unbelievably good.

Want to see him get destroyed by Demaryius, but I can't say I'm too bothered by what he said yesterday

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 12:33 pm

True but if its snowing, I ain't gonna trust Peyton to fling it especially against that secondary although I reckon Denver could run it well on Seattle (their o line in the run game is immense)

Gonna be great to see the two best go at it as you said earlier

by sodhat Mon 20 Jan 2014, 1:36 pm

Please, please, please don't let the Hawks win this one. Sherman seriously needs a solid dose of humility and I hope he gets it from one of the best there has been in Manning.

I could ignore the guy if his rant was just against Crabtree. They play often, don't like each other and he won that game so he earned the right to have the last word. But past stuff like trash talking Brady, Revis, Calvin Johnson? Guy has too much to say to people that are more talented.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 1:39 pm

As long as he backs it up I don't have a problem.

by sodhat Mon 20 Jan 2014, 1:46 pm

I'm just waiting for the day he doesn't, like everyone else. People that put themselves on that pedestal and rub people the wrong way have a very long and uncomfortable fall.

I was going to watch the game on game pass tonight but of all people my sister spoiled the result. Now I know the Hawks win I can't bear to watch it. I don't even have this irrational hatred in football (soccer), which I've followed all my life...

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 1:48 pm

Colin Kaepernick played well for 3 quarters. But he just can't make those turnovers in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG. The Chancellor INT was just a horrible throw.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:04 pm

BB: "I think it was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open...."

by sodhat Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:07 pm

Welker was pretty fired up for that game yesterday, you could see it when he made a catch for what he thought was a first down before a holding call.

He stayed pretty quiet all week but it looked like a guy that had an axe to grind with the Patriots.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:09 pm

I daresay they could've used him yesterday. Though nobody could've forseen Gronk and Amendola being injured

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:09 pm

GSC wrote:BB: "I think it was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open...."

I'd have to see the play again, but Talib went out with a knee injury, so I'm a little suspicious even though Welker is a little dude

Of course hes got an axe to grind with us. But at the end of the day Edelman replaced his production, at much less cost. Even Amendola ended up with alright numbers considering he's injured all the goddamn time

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:12 pm

Belichick wasn't even asked about the play. Fair to say theres bad blood there.

by sodhat Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:13 pm

Olly wrote:
GSC wrote:BB: "I think it was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open...."

I'd have to see the play again, but Talib went out with a knee injury, so I'm a little suspicious even though Welker is a little dude

Of course hes got an axe to grind with us. But at the end of the day Edelman replaced his production, at much less cost. Even Amendola ended up with alright numbers considering he's injured all the goddamn time

Yeah but didn't Amendola get offered more than they offered Welker?

Edelman has had a good year though, perhaps because he's pretty much the last receiver standing though.

by BamBam Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:16 pm

Edelman may have been last man standing, but he's a good receiver. Think he is a free agent this summer, be interesting to see if he stays or goes

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:17 pm

sodhat wrote:
Olly wrote:
GSC wrote:BB: "I think it was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open...."

I'd have to see the play again, but Talib went out with a knee injury, so I'm a little suspicious even though Welker is a little dude

Of course hes got an axe to grind with us. But at the end of the day Edelman replaced his production, at much less cost. Even Amendola ended up with alright numbers considering he's injured all the goddamn time

Yeah but didn't Amendola get offered more than they offered Welker?

Edelman has had a good year though, perhaps because he's pretty much the last receiver standing though.

Amendola got a longer contract, would've been about the same pay.

Edelman has always shown flashes right back to his rookie year, he even moved near to Brady to just play catch with him when he wanted! Injuries were his issue over the past two years especially. He's what they call #sneakyathletic

And yeah Belichick and Welker do not like each other, pretty much as strong as it gets from Bill.

by sodhat Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:23 pm

I think Edelman would be nuts to leave the Pats at the moment. Or they'd be nuts to let him walk. I suppose it depends on how much money a 105 catch season gets a small slot receiver these days - if Welker is an indication then it might not be all that much from the Pats.

Is it just me, or is sneaky athletic just something commentators call white guys that can run and cut a little?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 2:29 pm

I'm more confident we'll re-sign Talib than Edelman, although I don't think we'll offer either huge amounts. Priority this off season has to be getting Brady more weapons, we need to start viewing Gronk as an addition to the offence, not a kept part as he's just injured too often. Need a #1 receiver, another TE and help on the interior o-line. Then draft a LB to replace Spikes (who will almost certainly go), and try to find a pass rusher opposite Jones and hope the rest return healthy.

Just hope this off season is more low key than last!!

by mikeygnfl Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:10 pm

My early prediction for the Super Bowl is the Seahawks. I just think the Seahawks defence is more closely matched to the Broncos offence than the Broncos defence is to the Seahawks offence.

Plus New York is likely to be very cold and poor old Peyton doesn't like it very cold.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:53 pm

Edelmans just a guy. I doubt teams are lining up to pay him tbh.

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:59 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:My early prediction for the Super Bowl is the Seahawks. I just think the Seahawks defence is more closely matched to the Broncos offence than the Broncos defence is to the Seahawks offence.

Plus New York is likely to be very cold and poor old Peyton doesn't like it very cold.

Especially because he's used to the tropical climate of Denver... zzzz

by mikeygnfl Mon 20 Jan 2014, 4:23 pm

He has lost 63% of games in very cold weather.

The last few times the two Super Bowl teams have met in that year's preseason the same team won both games. Seahawks beat the Broncos in preseason.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014, 4:27 pm

I don't think it's the cold that affects Manning, the wind does.

But if it's snowy and windy, there ain't gonna be much throwing of the ball

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014, 4:38 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:He has lost 63% of games in very cold weather.

The last few times the two Super Bowl teams have met in that year's preseason the same team won both games. Seahawks beat the Broncos in preseason.

Really? You're going off preseason? Laugh

Peyton Manning in 4 cold-weather games with Broncos:12 TDs, 3 INTs, 101.4 rating, 2-2 record. 2 losses: 38-35 in 2 OT; 34-31, OT.

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