Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Pr4wn]

First topic message reminder :

Strong staff for us, I'm excited for next season!

[GSC]

People really will do anything to discredit Peyton.

[Lowlandbrit]

deadspin.com/a-guide-to-richard-sherman-your-new-favorite-nfl-player

Sherman stuck the nickname Optimus Prime on himself, because Optimus kicks Megatron's ass.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

San Fran play at Denver and at Seattle (obvs) next year, there's your opening game NFL...

[Pr4wn]

Belichick wasn't even asked about the play. Fair to say theres bad blood there.

So the cheat is complaining about cheating? Lol.

[Thomond]

Peyton's in a no win sitaution. If he wins it will be "why haven't you done it more, you choke artist". If he loses to one of the greatest defences of all time *based on a single year's performance they legitimately are, it's "he choked again". Got to love insane QB narratives, liek that one about how Colin Kaepernick was going to change the world or something like that.........


Sherman's earned the right to talk. One of the best CBs in the game (I'm biased with Revis but Sherman doesn't always stick to the number one, Sherman's a better ball hawk baits QBs into throwing the ball with phenomenal closing speed.)

[GSC]

Peyton choked last year apparently.

Not like his defense allowed a long TD pass in the last 2 minutes or anything

[Thomond]

I think I saw a stats that of Peyton's last 10 or elevent Playoff INTs over half of them were tipped.

[GSC]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/report-crabtree-tried-to-fight-sherman-at-a-charity-event-last-year/

[RDuncan8]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/report-crabtree-tried-to-fight-sherman-at-a-charity-event-last-year/

Says Sherman's older brother....

[Number-25]

I can't get worked up one or way or the other about a Sherman rant these days - the guy has just become white noise to me. He is what he is - a good CB with a big mouth. You hear another one of his rants and you just think "Whatever dude".

Re Peyton and his supposed cold weather weakness - I'm not aware of the stats on this but he seems to have done ok playing in Denver which isn't exactly the Costa del Sol in the Winter months. Anyway, the average February temperature in NY ranges between -4 and 4... that's hardly "Green Bay" cold. Peyton will be just fine.

[Pr4wn]

The NFL is considering abandoning the extra point and making personal fouls reviewable.

[Thomond]

I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.

[mikeygnfl]

Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

[mikeygnfl]

I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.

How about keep the 1 point conversion but make that a drop kick? I can understand why they want to get rid of it but not sure there will be that much support with fans/ traditionalists.

Maybe they could copy rugby and just have a place kick from in line were the TD was scored.

[TM Moot]

Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

impressive rduncan8, 54th and should move up plenty
quite happy with my 405pts, only had to bring in 2 new starters forthe SB

[sodhat]

I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.

How about keep the 1 point conversion but make that a drop kick? I can understand why they want to get rid of it but not sure there will be that much support with fans/ traditionalists.

Maybe they could copy rugby and just have a place kick from in line were the TD was scored.

I say just move the kick back so it's a 35 or 40 yard kick instead.

My alternative suggestions:

• replacing the football with one of those cheap pound shop footballs that curl a million different ways whenever you kick it. Try getting that through.
  
• having one of the offensive line take the kick, and another holding for him.
  
• changing it to a crossbar challenge, so you have to get the ball off the post to score a point.
  
• change the goal posts to crazy golf style windmill holes, and have the kicker have to time the kick perfectly to get it through a giant Roger Goodell opening and closing his legs.
  

[GSC]

The extra point is a waste of time. Great decision. 5/1260 were missed last year.

Scrap the XP, if you go for 2 and fail you get 6.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yep agree a good idea to get rid/change it. Much like GSC I'd just scrap it

[TM Moot]

have i got this right..

a TD = 7pts
going for '2' and succeeding = 8pts
going for '2' and failing = 6pts

quite happy to see the PAT go, it is traditional but fairly pointless (excuse the pun  )

[Number-25]

I take it then that the proposed attempt to run/pass it in would be optional? In other words you can stick with 7 and move straight on to the kick off or risk a point by trying to gain an extra one?

Makes sense I guess. PATs are dull but suppose you could also say if ain't broke don't fix it. I'd be up for the change though.

[Pr4wn]

That's exactly what they're suggesting 25.

[Lowlandbrit]

Let's get an update on that Browns coaching search (who don't have a HC, OC or DC right now):
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
#Broncos OC Adam Gase has thanked #Browns for their interest but informed them they can move on with their search as he focuses on the game

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Saw someone say earlier that if the extra point was proposed now, people would laugh at the stupidity of it. Pretty true really, it's a fairly automatic exercise 99% of the time.

Jason Licht new Bucs GM

[crazy_dave23]

Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

I should have sold out on Broncos and Seahawks like RDuncan8 did. I'm still sitting pretty, but too much of my team is duplicated with RDuncan and a couple of those are on smaller multipliers for me to make a difference

[mikeygnfl]

I did see someone who suggested just replacing the PAT with the 2 pt conversion.

[GSC]

I can't think of a more pointless exercise in sport than the extra point

[Pr4wn]

I completely misunderstood that playoff challenge. Should read the rules next year!

[crazy_dave23]

I completely misunderstood that playoff challenge. Should read the rules next year!

Yeah its so tempting to bag the points in week 1, but you basically have to go for broke on Superbowl participants... especially if you think they will come from the wild card rounds

[crazy_dave23]

Nice fact...

The Broncos have punted once in the playoffs

[BamBam]

That's pretty insane ..

Interesting that the 3 best defences in the playoffs were all NFC. Is there any AFC defence in the same league?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'd say Cincy's defence would be (especially considering they were down Atkins and Hall).

[BamBam]

Pro Bowl draft is tonight

[BamBam]

Oh actually, today is just OL, DL and special teams. Rest is tomorrow

[NYJ]

How cool would it be if Manning had the greatest season of all time, won the Super Bowl then retired at the very top of his game.

[Pr4wn]

Won the superbowl by beating Richard Sherman on a deep ball.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Can't see him hanging it up yet NYJ, even if he does win in New Jersey. Think he'll try to go for two more years

[GSC]

Peyton won't retire. He loves it too much

[NYJ]

Can't see him hanging it up yet NYJ, even if he does win in New Jersey. Think he'll try to go for two more years

Sadly. He would be the coolest man alive if he announced in his Super Bowl MVP speech that he's going out on top.

[BamBam]

Elway esque

[Lowlandbrit]

There was a report that he's having a neck exam at the end of the season to decide if he can play another year or not.

[mikeygnfl]

If Peyton Manning wins the Super Bowl, wouldn't he want to try to win another one and match Tom Brady's three wins?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

He's got it good in Denver, bunch of quality WR's and an offensive line that makes sure he isn't touched most of the time. Plus him and Gase seem to have formed a good connection.

Would be silly to walk away now, unless he physically can't do it

[Lowlandbrit]

Looks like the Browns have finally found someone willing to take the job: Bills DC Mike Pettine is supposedly negotiating a contract. Although if that falls through, they also interviewed Schiano recently...

[Pr4wn]

Bookmakers in the USA have started to quote an over/under on how many times Peyton Manning will say "Omaha" in the superbowl. The price is currently at 27.5.

[crazy_dave23]

I think he is trending down from 44 to 31 over the playoffs... i'd still go over

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Zach Kruse ‏@zachkruse2
If Ndamukong Suh does not re-do his deal before next season, he, Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford will count $51.3M against #Lions cap.

Yikes!   

[GSC]

After the least competent HC search in recent memory Mike Pettine is the new Browns HC

[Lowlandbrit]

Hope he's got plenty of contacts, because the Browns have almost no coaches left at this point.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Hope he's got plenty of contacts, because the Browns have almost no coaches left at this point.

Yeah losing Norv and Horton were big blows, two pretty damn good coordinators there.

[Lowlandbrit]

Yeah losing Norv and Horton were big blows, two pretty damn good coordinators there.

It's not just the coordinators, most of the position coaches have taken other jobs too.

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