Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Pr4wn]

First topic message reminder :

Strong staff for us, I'm excited for next season!

[CFCNick]

Police apparently have video of Ray Rice knocking out his fiancé.

Don't expect to see him week 1 then.

Surprised this story didn't get on here sooner. It's been a couple of days. That's why I posted the picture above.

http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n

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Tbh Ben got 4 iirc just for being accused.

If there's a video if be surprised if Rice plays in the first half of the year.

It's ok though, they have a 120.6m QB

[CFCNick]

The story I've heard the most is that his fiancé spat at him during an argument and then he knocked her out.

[GSC]

I'm sure that will play well in Goodells office

[CFCNick]

Also, Bucs getting new jerseys after updating their logo. http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Bucs-Unveil-Enhanced-Logo-and-Helmet/744d6357-fe9f-4ecd-bda4-2dc05ff0f2d3

And don't know if anyone's seen this yet but there's a youtube series by two fans called Tailgate32. They tailgated all 32 teams during the 2012 season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLO7gCpW5lQ&feature=share&list=PLA41D72FECDA1002A

[sodhat]

Despite it being an unsavoury topic I did laugh at this comment:

"Hey diddle diddle, Ray Rice up the middle.....of your jaw."

[Pr4wn]

Not much change to the logo, I like it though.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Police apparently have video of Ray Rice knocking out his fiancé.

Don't expect to see him week 1 then.

Surprised this story didn't get on here sooner. It's been a couple of days. That's why I posted the picture above.

http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n

That was the longest carry of his season   

[mikeygnfl]

I'd be nervous about Manziel that high. I can see him having a great first season, but I can't see him lasting long playing the way he does.

I don't think Manziel has to run everywhere in the NFL. I think he will succeed as a passer rather than a running QB.

Quite a few reports say Houston want to take Bortles first overall...

I think Houston maybe looking to trade down.

[Lowlandbrit]

Some combine QB measurements starting to come through (height, weight, hand size):
Bridgewater: 6'2 1/8, 214, 9 1/4
Manziel: 5'11 3/4, 207, 9 7/8
Bortles: 6'5, 232, 9 3/8

[NYJ]

I don't think Manziel has to run everywhere in the NFL. I think he will succeed as a passer rather than a running QB.

You crack me up.

[GSC]

And now PFT is saying the Browns almost traded for Jim Harbaugh.

Jed York clearly is reluctant to pay Harbaugh big money

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Why would San Fran do that?!

Finally get a quality coach, trade him away

[GSC]

Same as the Texas rumours. Harbaugh wants Carroll/Jim H money, York doesn't want to pay him it

[GSC]

Also said that Harbaughs a pain in the ass to deal with and he and Baalke don't get on. Though if it came down to Baalke and Harbaugh, that's not too difficult

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Kouandijo fails medicals with an arthritic knee

[Number-25]

Beautiful squirming by the Giants on the question of drafting Michael Sam.... Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no.......

And here was me thinking NY was all metrosexual and all that....

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/34660/reese-it-was-time-to-make-a-change

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It's pretty much what every teams said. Every Owner and HC will have their PR orders on the subject. His limitations as a player will have more of a bearing where he's drafted.

[Number-25]

I know, but the other teams have done a better job of saying "No way, we're getting into the media circus of drafting the first gay guy".

Just made me laugh seeing the usually super bland Giants getting all muddled up.

[mikeygnfl]

Beautiful squirming by the Giants on the question of drafting Michael Sam.... Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no.......

And here was me thinking NY was all metrosexual and all that....

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast

I would have thought California/ West Coast or New York would have been the best landing spots for Michael Sam.

[mikeygnfl]

Michael Vick is being linked with a move to the New York Jets. Pitta and the Ravens are in talks for a new contract. The Cardinals and Dolphins have both shown an interest in Branden Albert. Brent Grimes is optimist about re-signing with the Dolphins

[Pr4wn]

What do you guys think about the browns attempting to prize Jim Harbaugh away from the niners?

[GSC]

As I said before there's clearly tension between the 49ers and Harbaugh.

Does seem he's somewhat of a mini Schiano, and rubs people the wrong way. May well be his last season in SF

[NYJ]

Vick is past it. I don't want him anywhere near our franchise.

[GSC]

Now the Dolphins LS and NFLPA rep has come out and said that Wells overblew any actions in the locker room towards Martin.

Pretty much underlines why Martins done in Miami, the locker room is pretty united against him now.

[GSC]

Jason Peters gets a 5 year deal. Well deserved, fully expect him to retake his spot as the best LT in the league 2 years removed from his achilles injury. Kelce up next to get paid, then we'll have 4/5 of one of the best OLs locked up long term. Expect we'd be heavily scouting replacements for Herremans in the later rounds

[mikeygnfl]

Kelce gets six year deal, Riley Cooper gets a five year deal.

[sodhat]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000329656/article/riley-cooper-supports-proposed-onfield-nword-ban

I love that this is news. I wonder what they thought he'd say?

"I disagree with the ban on racial slurs, because, being a racist myself, it will severely impact on my freedom of speech. And if you disagree with me I will fight all the n****** up in here."

[Number-25]

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pats cut Gregory

Jets tagged their kicker

Panthers will use the tag on Hardy

Donald Butler back in San Diego, Maclin back in Philly and most importantly of them all....

Jackie Battle got a new deal in Tennessee.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Cap is set at 133 million

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Saints put the non exclusive tag on Graham.

A team can give up two first rounders for him

[mikeygnfl]

Saints put the non exclusive tag on Graham.

A team can give up two first rounders for him

How about the Cleveland Browns? They could draft Teddy Bridgewater then give up their second 1st rounder plus next year's. Bridgewater to Gordon, Cameron and Graham?

[GSC]

They'd have to give up their own first round pick

Ain't happening

[GSC]

The Bucs have revealed a uniform only a mother could love

[TM Moot]

The Bucs have revealed a uniform only a mother could love

according to the blurb...THE NIKE ELITE 51 UNIFORM – AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM OF DRESS Designed and engineered from the inside out, the NFL Nike Elite 51 Uniform focuses on creating a system where the baselayer, padding, jersey and pant work in concert.   

i really hope Nike don't go anywhere near the Packers

[Pr4wn]

Typical cynic. I actually quite like it.

[sodhat]

They look a bit like the Pro Bowl uniforms they made, to me. I preferred the old school look, but I can see maybe Nike looking to phase that out and go for the sharper and more modern designs like these and Seattle's.

Lucky for me they can't really do much to the Raiders. It's just black...

[GSC]

Is Tampa the alarm clock industrial capital of America or something?

[Pr4wn]

Wit.

[GSC]

You don't have to defend everything the Bucs do

[Lowlandbrit]

I think his face nicely sums it up.

[GSC]

It looks like an arena league uni

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yeah they're fairly not good

[mikeygnfl]

Some player news. Peyton Manning has passed his physical and is fully fit for 2014. Anquin Boldin says 'he is returning to the 49ers' next year. Orakpo receives the Redskins franchise tag. Kaepernick wants more money than Jay Culter. Brent Grimes re-signs for the Dolphins on a 4 year deal.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bills won't tag Jairus Byrd

Cleveland use transition tag on Mack, so Ward hits the market, Byrd will end up there one would imagine

Raiders not using tag on Houston, no contact with Veldeer

[Number-25]

I think his face nicely sums it up.

What's with the weird shoulders?

[Number-25]

Some player news. Peyton Manning has passed his physical and is fully fit for 2014. Anquin Boldin says 'he is returning to the 49ers' next year. Orakpo receives the Redskins franchise tag. Kaepernick wants more money than Jay Culter. Brent Grimes re-signs for the Dolphins on a 4 year deal.

Tagging Orakpo makes sense. Stops him hitting the market and buys them time to thrash out a deal with him. With his injury history he really needs the security of a long term deal. With all the holes in the roster, the Redskins need a more cap friendly deal. They'll find a compromise somewhere along the line that keeps him a Redskin for a while yet.

[GSC]

Logically speaking if Graham wants to be tagged as a WR, he's no longer in contention for Gonzalezs records

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Brandon Browner got reinstated cos you know, Seattle's really short at corner already...

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