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Post by Bathite Wed May 18, 2011 9:16 pm

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SARACENS

"There's definately something special happening at Saracens"


2010/2011 Inaugural ERL Season
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4th Place in League
Playoff Semifinalist
Manager of the Month 6 times winner Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=Saracens - Page 7 WeMdVo+hgWTMZZ5eC+5SXSwDpYqpgaP5+sWtoA3SI2e8+bUqO35JvgBoJ4pwQp0MQkAAAAASUVORK5CYII=


INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY


PositionStrongest Squad
1S.Tonga'uia
2B.Du Plessis
3O.Franks
4L.Nallet
5P.Albacete
6R.Elsom
7S.Burger
8S.Parisse
9J.Cowan
10N.Evans
11H.Gear
12M.Nonu
13J.Fourie
14D.Mitchell
15I.Toeava
16R.Roncero
17P.Dixon
18R.M-Chluski
19M.Bergamasco
20R.Wigglesworth
21B.James
22C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards
NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Soane Tonga'uiaLH
Tonga
Key Player

Rodrigo Roncero
LHArg
First Team
Wyatt CrockettLHNZFirst Team
Owen FranksTH/LHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Matt StevensTH/LHEngFirst TeamINJ
Bismarck Du PlessisHKSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Pieter DixonHKZimbBack Up£10m
Lionel NalletLKFranceKey Player
Patricio AlbaceteLKArgentinaKey Player
Romain Millo-Chluski LKFranceFirst Team
Julien PierreLKFranceRotation
Rocky ElsomBS/N8AustraliaInvaluable
Schalk BurgerOS/BS/N8SAInvaluableNot For Sale
Sergio ParisseN8ItalyInvaluableNot For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco
OS/BS
Italy
First Team

Wycliff PaluN8/BSAustraliaFirst Team
Thomas WaldromN8/BSNZRotation£18m
Matt ToddOS/BSNZRotation
Backs

NamePositionNationalitySquad StatusValue
Jimmy CowanSHNZKey Player
Richard WigglesworthSHEnglandFirst Team£14m
Nick EvansFHNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Butch JamesFH/ICSARotation
Ma'a NonuIC/OC/WGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Jacque FourieOC/IC/WGSAInvaluableNot For Sale
Brad BarrittICEnglandRotation
Hosea GearWGNZInvaluableNot For Sale
Drew Mitchell
WG/FB
Aus
Invaluable
Not For Sale
Isaia ToeavaFB/WG/OCNZKey Player
Cedric HeymansWG/FBFranceFirst Team
Ben SmithFB/WGNZFirst Team






INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m


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Post by pullthestrings Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:48 pm

I can't lose Thorn, thinking of healing him when I get my monthly bonus.

Can it not be Pape/Pierre? I think you asked for 4 mil on the homepage for one of them - I'm offering 5 mil a piece.

Worried about the Tigers for the upcoming weeks. Tough fixture this week and the injuries have hit me hard.

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Post by pullthestrings Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:06 pm

On the homepage it was 4 mil (8 mil for two). I originally put £12 mil. £10 mil is a fair comprimise. It's only £1 mil but still.

I'll release Hooper now, predict and then confirm if you're happy.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:03 am

Pape Pierre 4 week loan £10 mil.

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:20 am

Elsom + Waldrom
=
Croft + McCalman

Enq

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:24 am

Ah poo thought you would've been more tempted with that, as it saved you a foriegn bid. Did you see my offer for the locks?

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:29 am

I thought McCalman was rated higher than both? It was something like;

Nallet + Pierre + Thion/Pape
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Lawes + Palmer + £10m

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:39 am

The lock deal is a potential one for the future. thumbsup

Nothing else I could tempt you, Aplon for Toeava? Anything you can think of?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:42 am

Higginbotham could be an option for you. Playing well for the Reds and covers the entire back row which is key. If any of your back rowers get injured you're pretty screwed.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:45 pm

Waldrom aint a weakness, but Palu would fit in nicely there. Also gives you a bargaining chip if you were then looking to improve on Palu. So yeah, I'd take a punt on Palu for 22 mil OK

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:37 am

Nottingham bid 12m for Matt Parr

Accept or reject on foreigns page by close of play 28/06/11

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Post by Driver Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:13 pm

Burger + Franks for Pocock + Wilson + Kankowski?
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Post by GloucesterBear Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:05 pm

I confirmed the wrong price but put it right.

My budget is correct on my homepage, budget on the actual homepage is wrong.

I released two players didn't I, but Pullthestrings didn't add the price for them.
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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:38 am

Hello mate.

I thought the loan was for 4 weeks - so weeks 13,14,15,16.

Good news today - bonuses!

I'm away as of lunchtime today I'm away for the weekend so leaving you in charge bud. Hopefully predictions will come flooding in and results can be calculated. I will update everything Sunday.

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Post by GloucesterBear Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:13 am

Elsom & Palu & Maitland & Toeava
4
Thomson & Parisse & Pietersen & Poitrenaud

?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:57 pm

I can't see a deal there. Am happy with my back row now

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Post by Fluxy Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:33 pm

Swear I did it.

Leicester 22 - 21 Ospreys

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Post by pullthestrings Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:47 am

Elsom + Palu + Bekker + Gear
=
Spies + Brussow + Thorn + Rokocoko

enq.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:14 pm

16.5m for Pape and Pierre

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:26 pm

Well nine for one, and the rest when I get it?

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:36 pm

I'll offer 10m but any higher is no point. No one else would pay 15m

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:41 pm

Well peole would rather to heal for cheaper. Than pay more for a player.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:22 pm

£22m for two French locks?

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Post by GloucesterBear Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:52 pm

Just saw a comment on Albacete from you, no matter how good he is people might of what to brought in different positions.

I would of snapped him up but needed Warburton and now need a fly-half.
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Post by CJB Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:37 pm

Cowan + Franks 4 Hayman + Cussiter

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Post by CJB Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:04 am

Think Cussiter >

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:41 pm

Elsom & Hape
4
Thomson & King

OR

Maitland & Todd
4
Pietersen & Collins

?
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:49 pm

Maitland & Todd
4
Pietersen & F.Louw

Couldn't add Bekker 4 Jack on there?
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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:06 pm

Parisse not going for Palu.

Big shame that I can't sign anybody from anyone unless Parisse is involved, bit stupid and frustrating.
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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:51 pm

Habana + Elsom
4
Rockocoko + Broussow

Good offer. Who would I pop at 7 though? Not sure Bonnaire/Wood are rated highly enough.

What about

Domingo + Schalk
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Steenkamp + Alberts

Gives you the best front row in the league... as well as centre's and second row Shocked

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:08 pm

domingo + broussow + rockocoko + alberts
4
steenkemp + todd + habana + elsom

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Still not keen on dropping Brussouw at 7. My previous enquiry stands, still not sure. Domingo to Steenkamp is a big drop. Alberts plays 7 usually doesn't he?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:20 pm

I could perhaps do

domingo + Sivi + alberts
4
steenkemp + habana + elsom

enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:31 pm

I wouldn't base your ratings on Pooly's comments.. he changes his mind more than his pants!

Depends what's important for you. IMO with Domingo you'd have the best front row in the league, destroy scrums.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Yeah I was disappointed to lose the HC semi final.. I thought I had that. Ospreys are tops though - the back line is unreal. Pretty poor front row and back row though.

Still keen on Schalk..

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Post by Fluxy Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:27 pm

Wouldn't do more than £9m

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Post by GloucesterBear Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:53 pm

Bekker + Habana
4
Parrisse + Donald

Is that some sort of joke, who would I play at 8 use your brain lad.
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Post by Fluxy Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:47 pm

£22m for Pierre and Pape.

Enq

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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:24 am

Bekker + Steenkemp + Elsom + Habana
4
Roussow + Domingo + BRoussow + Steyn/Rockocoko

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No thanks mate. My main target was Schalk/Elsom but without losing Brussouw. If you don't think that's feasible a deal will be unlikely..

I could add something like Roko for Maitland - a massive gain for you.

Burger + Steenkamp + Maitland
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Roko + Alberts + Domingo

enq.

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:38 pm

Bekker and habana and palu/Waldron
4
Parrisse and Donald

Said im not losing Parisse too key.
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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:04 pm

I can see why you've got MOTM 3 months running - you're tighter than a nun's crease!

Burger + Steenkamp + Maitland
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Sivi + Alberts + Domingo

Tis an offer.

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:18 pm

Hello Bathite trying really hard this afternoon not proposing any deals you can come in with that if you like the look of the below. So would you do.

Nallet/Albacete 4 Chisholm
Evans 4 Slade
Gear 4 Guildford
Habana 4 Pietersen

Plus a gain for you don't know what that could be but sure you could find something what doesn't involve Parisse.

Thanks mate
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:59 pm

No ta mate OK

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:00 pm

Your giving me Saunders that's pathetic in your standards Bathite.

Do Smith 4 R.Davies, Wigglesworth 4 Pretorious.

Plus one of the aboves, Habana 4 Pietersen or Nallet 4 Chisholm seems best bets?
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:03 pm

I don't want to weaken my pack.

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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:08 pm

I'm not really bothered about Habana mate.

Elsom + Steenkamp + Maitland
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Sivi + Alberts + Domingo

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:08 pm

Jacobsen is nowhere near good enough to start.

Thinking about it Parisse 4 Palu is a possiblity but only if I gain quite a bit elsewhere not once but twice. His massive to me and far better than Palu.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:14 pm

What about.

Habana & Palu & Toeava & Gear
4
Pietersen & Parisse & Poitrenaud & Guildford

There are some evens in there, Habana and Pietersen on form and overall quality is tight to call while Toeava 4 Poitrenaud I know you prefer Toeava but Poitrenaud won't be that much of a loss.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:15 pm

Looking at your deal yes I will gain.

But Parisse is world class and carries my team I need some of your bigger players involved.

Gear, Elsom, Nallet, Albacete or Evans two of them would need to be included possibly.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:21 pm

Bekker doesn't start for you though, so you will still have Albacete and Nallet.

I need one of your main starters or two.

Gear, Elsom or one of the locks need to come my way or as you have tried so hard Parisse will still not leave Toulon Very Happy
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Post by Fluxy Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:06 pm

Why would you turn down more money than you would recieve, although you are holding me to ransom for them. It's much better for the game to retain players than release them.

For Thion though £9.5m

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:15 pm

Albacete + Palu
4
Chisholm + Parisse


Well he is my key player, Palu is hardly good does he even play at the moment.

Parisse is my best player he is like my Carter and McCaw. Would need Gear.
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