Scotland v England, Murrayfield, Sat 8th Feb, 17:00

by yappysnap Sun 02 Feb 2014, 9:32 am

First topic message reminder :

Thought I'd start a thread to discuss next weeks game.

ENGLAND

England head coach Stuart Lancaster has kept faith with the side which lost to France and named an unchanged line-up for Saturday's match against Scotland.
Gloucester's Jonny May starts on the wing despite breaking his nose nine minutes into the 26-24 loss in Paris.
Courtney Lawes will be in the second row after his cheekbone bruising eased, while Danny Care and Owen Farrell form the half-back partnership.
"They're determined to put last week's result behind them," said Lancaster.
England will be hoping to avoid a third successive Test defeat, having lost to New Zealand in the autumn and France in the opening weekend of the Six Nations.
Scotland, however, were well beaten by Ireland on Sunday have not prevailed in the Calcutta Cup since their 15-9 win at Murrayfield in 2008.
"Scotland will be hugely motivated by their defeat in Dublin and, as we found two years ago, Murrayfield is a tough place to play," added Lancaster, who began his England reign with a 13-6 win against Scotland in 2012.
May is not expected to wear a protective face mask when he wins his third cap in Edinburgh.
Luther Burrell, who scored on his debut at the Stade de France, will make his second Test appearance at centre, while Jack Nowell takes up the right-wing spot for what will also be his second cap.
Wasps prop Matt Mullan will travel as the 24th man.

England XI v Scotland: Mike Brown (Harlequins, 22 caps), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 1 cap), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 9 caps), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 2 caps), Owen Farrell (Saracens, 20 caps), Danny Care (Harlequins, 43 caps), Joe Marler (Harlequins, 16 caps), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 51 caps), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 44 caps), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 15 caps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 26 caps), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 24 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 21 caps), Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 6 caps)
Replacements: Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps), Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 11 caps), Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks, 2 caps), Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 6 caps), Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 16 caps), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, 13 caps), Brad Barritt (Saracens, 17 caps), Alex Goode (Saracens, 14 caps)

Scotland

Scots team:

1.grant
2.ford
3.low
4.swinson
5.hamilton
6.wilson
7.fusaro
8.denton
9.laidlaw
10.weir
11.lamont
12.scott
13.dunbar
14.seymor
15 hogg

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:04 pm

Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

by nathan Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:04 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

by bedfordwelsh Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:05 pm

Denton (for me) was Scotlands best player so why they took him off baffled me, yet another strange decision by Johnson.

by Hood83 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm

yappysnap wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
Hood83 wrote:Awful fron England, we've messed up a load of chances, though credit to Scotland for putting pressure on us.

How can you possibly praise Scotland for being 20-0 (and lucky) down against an awful (in your words) England? That just doesn't make logical sense

I get the feeling Hood is a glass half empty kind of guy

I have very exacting standards yappy Wink

I said England were awful during that phase of play (and Scotland were decent), and a few similar ones where we camped on their line and got nothing. That's the difference between us being good and being able to compete with the Boks and ABs, in my opinion.

by mystiroakey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:11 pm

nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

He pushed a player- but its rugby, everyone is a pusher and a bell end.

by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:12 pm

Scotland only redeeming factors in the match were Fusaro , Denton and Dunbar.

As for the rest, a disgrace to the shirt.

Over 17 missed tackles and Ford and Hamilton couldn't run a tap never mind a line out.

A shambolic rout.

Full credit to England, the most difficult thing they had to content with was the pitch.

Please join in the Twitter rebellion and help us get #lackingclue to trend.

by Duty281 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:12 pm

I echo the calls on Tom Youngs being poor.

Our lineout was near-flawless from the first minute till Hartley departed; then I think we lost at least two line-outs in the short time Youngs was on.

It is a real concern now, it's not an isolated incident - it happened last week against France and, much more memorably, against the All Blacks in the autumn.

I get that he adds some energy and physicality to the scrum, ruck and maul, but it's no substitute, not a worthwhile one at any rate, for his woeful line-out throwing. You get the sense now that teams will start to attack that area of England's game when Youngs gets on, such is the consistency of his failing.

Who's our current third-choice hooker? Webber? Get him on the bench for the next game - can you imagine if Hartley goes off injured early on, say the first ten or twenty minutes, against Ireland and Youngs has to come on?

Everything would fall apart...again.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:12 pm

nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

An off the ball, play over cheap shot on Cusiter's shoulder, a known weak spot - he makes me sick

by Duty281 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:14 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

An off the ball, play over cheap shot on Cusiter's shoulder, a known weak spot - he makes me sick

He makes my heart race. #gorgeousowenfarrell

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:14 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?
He pushed a player- but its rugby, everyone is a pusher and a bell end.

No, Strokey, they're not

by Cumbrian Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:15 pm

Bristolian wrote:Think people are being too harsh on England. Given the (unacceptably poor) state of the pitch, Scotland's spoiling tactics and a ref who let them do it I think that was a pretty good effort.

Not like Moore to get distracted by try scoring, I thought Billy V should've been Man of the Match. Brown was very good though. May showed us what we missed last week for 72 minutes. Nowell still isn't ready, but is talented. Lawes was brilliant, and 36 improved from last week. Barritt and Goode. No thanks.

About Brown and Farrell's attitude, I agree with Cumbrian, we get booed everywhere anyway (even booing of our fans singing Swing Low, bit football for my taste) so why not have some venom? As long as it is controlled I have no issue with it.

I do wonder if people let club affiliations colour their views. Youngs was rubbish. Same as last week he threw away an attacking lineout 5 metres from the line. Not only his lineout, but no way did he carry better than Hartley. So what if he's a Lion? In '97 Nigel Redman was a Lion, at the age of 83. Tom Court is a Lion. Shane Williams, smoking in the Japanese 2nd division is a Lion. Glorified Barbarians.

Don't know what to say about Scotland. Denton was really good (why sub him? Almost as bad as Care last week), Laidlaw tried hard and Hamilton was spikey. Otherwise, they failed to score but were flattered but the scoreline.

Billy V really is a gem of a find for us, him and Morgan have got our no.8 spot sown up for years. I don't want to kibosh it, but I think Billy could be our new Laurence, Bruno, Nero etc. Unfortunately I agree about Youngs, we can't have a hooker who is so consistently bad at throwing, it's a shame because I have got a lot of time for the other elements of his game. Aside from that, Hartley is quietly becoming a seasoned leader within the squad and I reckon he can really become one of the leaders at the World Cup.

by mystiroakey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:16 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?
He pushed a player- but its rugby, everyone is a pusher and a bell end.

No, Strokey, they're not

Ok they are not - some players are only part bell ends.

by nathan Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:16 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

An off the ball, play over cheap shot on Cusiter's shoulder, a known weak spot - he makes me sick

ah that was probably in response to him kicking the ball away which scotland seemed to do a lot after giving away a penalty. I think you need to chill out there, he probably didn't know it was a weak spot.

by flankertye Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:30 pm

I'd say Hartley already is a key leader of the squad, one of, if not the most experienced england player in the squad. He's been fantastic in the last few seasons.

by doctor_grey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:32 pm

nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

An off the ball, play over cheap shot on Cusiter's shoulder, a known weak spot - he makes me sick

ah that was probably in response to him kicking the ball away which scotland seemed to do a lot after giving away a penalty. I think you need to chill out there, he probably didn't know it was a weak spot.

When did that happen?

by Knackeredknees Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:32 pm

nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
nathan wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Bravo England, an easy win and never had to get out of second gear. What a shame that O Farrell is a pathetic excuse for a human being - what a bell end

what did he do? sounds a bit harsh?

An off the ball, play over cheap shot on Cusiter's shoulder, a known weak spot - he makes me sick

ah that was probably in response to him kicking the ball away which scotland seemed to do a lot after giving away a penalty. I think you need to chill out there, he probably didn't know it was a weak spot.

I do hope ASBO that you will also be aiming your ire at big Jim who gave him a cheep shot at a ruck about 5min earlier?

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:35 pm

Hamilton is simply a cheap shot merchant, incapable of rising above that - Farrell however can play, just his ego gets in the way - loathsome individual

by mystiroakey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:37 pm

yeah off course he is..

I bet you have never made a bad split second error of judgement under immense adrenaline and pressure..

What a horrid man he is Shocked

by englandglory4ever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:39 pm

What did Denton do wrong? I thought he looked the best Scottish player on the pitch.

by majesticimperialman Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:41 pm

Would Scotland have played any better if Kelly Brown had played? Or would the result be the same?

by EST Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:44 pm

Just awful from Scotland, made all the worse by the fact that I saw this result coming.

England barely had to get out of 2nd gear. I literally cant find one positive aspect to that performance - my only hope is that it puts some sense into Johnson, although I doubt it. The man is nothing but empty talk.

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:49 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Hamilton is simply a cheap shot merchant, incapable of rising above that - Farrell however can play, just his ego gets in the way - loathsome individual

he's 21 years old. anything else anyone needs to know about farrell?

if the gentle push that farrell gave cussiter (or was it laidlaw cant remember) is in a "known" weak spot, then what the f is he doing on a rugby pitch?

this was no worse than holding someone down when getting up from the tackle.

i like my england players to be spikey. its the only time we ever win anything. brian moore...martin johnson...lawrence dallaglio...will carling (tube i grant you but spike for sure)

and as lots of people have said, we are hated anyways so who cares if we wind people up, it's certainly not going to get them to raise their game. plenty enough motivation already against the auld enemy.

if farrell were a 6 or 7 or 9 no-one would even have remarked on it.

by Cyril Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:55 pm

Slightly weird game.

No real tension. Games at Murrayfield are not normally like this. England completely in control. Left quite a few points on the field from Farrell's boot and probably should have got a couple more tries. Farrell seems to be keen on the delayed pass recently which can be effective but you also risk knock-ons if your team mate isn't expecting it. He's making more breaks now too. Bad day with the boot (no real surprise given the conditions).

Generally impressed and the backs looked a bit more fluid. Actually thought Twelvetrees did ok and can't understand all the criticism he's getting. Occasionally he tends to throw missed passes when playing through the hands would be better (England do this too often and don't isolate defenders as well as they might).

Burrell seems to have a knack for running onto a pass at speed with good angles. I've been impressed by him.

Lawes was imperious in the lineout. Launchberry had a quiet but solid game. Usual good work by Robshaw and Wood. Billy V is a monster (with soft hands).

The scrum was a bit of a mess because of the pitch but thought the front row did ok. Hartley is really coming into his own now and has an excellent all round game as well as being a senior leader.

Nowell is raw but I like his enthusiasm and attitude. May looked dangerous and I'd like to see more of him. Brown was his usual consistent self and nice for him to bag a try again. Care is definitely the front runner at 9 now.

Agree that the bench (Morgan aside) isn't the most dynamic.

Scotland. Cotter's arrival can't come soon enough.

by Nematode Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm

How did Fusaro play?

Anyone got Phil Godman's number?

by Chjw131 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:00 pm

Interesting game. From an England perspective I thought that the pack were generally excellent bar one or two errors holding onto the ball at key times.

That's four excellent performances I've seen from this pack on the trot. Lawes was MOTM last week for me and he came a close second this week. Billy V was outstanding. Marler again raised his game, he's really starting to look like the U20s sensation he was.

Wood and Robshaw were good, Hartley was excellent. Dan Cole did well without standing out in any area, which is a concern. When is Davy Wilson back, I think we'll need him for Ireland?

Youngs again confirmed he's a super player but he has the yips at the moment. Webber to come in for Ireland.

A pack and bench of :
1. J Marler
2. D Hartley
3. D Cole
4. J Launchbury
5. C Lawes
6. T Wood
7. C Robshaw
8. B Vunipola

16. R Webber 17. M Vunipola 18. D Wilson 19. D Attwood 20. B Morgan

To me that is a punishing forward group. Everyone on the bench is powerful and offer carrying threats. On Ireland's display today that is a forward pack who could beat them.

by bedfordwelsh Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:01 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:Would Scotland have played any better if Kelly Brown had played? Or would the result be the same?

Wouldn't have made much difference for me.

by Nematode Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:02 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:Would Scotland have played any better if Kelly Brown had played? Or would the result be the same?

Wouldn't have made much difference for me.

How was Fusaro?

by HammerofThunor Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:05 pm

I thought Fusaro was ok. Difficult to tell as Scotland were well beaten but he stood out every now and then (for good stuff).

by Chjw131 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:07 pm

Backs-wise for England I was heartened to see more adventure and some pace for once!

May looks solid in defence so far and that was my area of concern for him. He looked for work and took contact well. He could've had a try if Nowell had passed in the second half.

Nowell showed signs of wag the can do and was pretty good all round, if a little raw. Burrell took his try well and passed pretty well. 36 was very good, he ran well used his decoys, defended very well and kicked. In the circumstances I thought he was high quality. Barritt could not have done what he did.

Brown was really good and showed hunger. Bench backs were and are appalling as subs.

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:10 pm

Nematode wrote:How did Fusaro play?

Anyone got Phil Godman's number?

fusaro was a real nuisance, pain in the a7se, interfering sonofabeech. in other words i thought he was a standout player and he should be thrilled with his debut performance.

by Nematode Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:12 pm

What are the odds on Scotland not scoring this 6 nations?

by doctor_grey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:13 pm

Chjw131 wrote:Interesting game. From an England perspective I thought that the pack were generally excellent bar one or two errors holding onto the ball at key times.

That's four excellent performances I've seen from this pack on the trot. Lawes was MOTM last week for me and he came a close second this week. Billy V was outstanding. Marler again raised his game, he's really starting to look like the U20s sensation he was.

Wood and Robshaw were good, Hartley was excellent. Dan Cole did well without standing out in any area, which is a concern. When is Davy Wilson back, I think we'll need him for Ireland?

Youngs again confirmed he's a super player but he has the yips at the moment. Webber to come in for Ireland.

A pack and bench of :
1. J Marler
2. D Hartley
3. D Cole
4. J Launchbury
5. C Lawes
6. T Wood
7. C Robshaw
8. B Vunipola

16. R Webber 17. M Vunipola 18. D Wilson 19. D Attwood 20. B Morgan

To me that is a punishing forward group. Everyone on the bench is powerful and offer carrying threats. On Ireland's display today that is a forward pack who could beat them.

Since I didn't see the match yet, can you tell me how the backs worked together? Looking at the stats I see England dominated most important numbers again (yards, possession, territory). Could England have scored more than 20 points? Was the pitch that much of a factor? I need to wait for the match to go up on iPlayer...........

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:14 pm

pitch was horrorshow. i posted during that match that on a firm pitch the scoreline would have been 30+ difference.

french ref also didnt ref the breakdown (he was very neutral, just let basically everything go), so that also prevented scoring.

by mystiroakey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:15 pm

I doubt anyone would have been surprised with a 40 pt win.

Everyone played ok, slightly short of finishing , but the pitch was horrible.. That said England's handling made the pitch and weather seem better than it was..

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:15 pm

very relevant stat is that in the second half, scotland spent less than 1% of the time in the england 22.

by Cumbrian Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:17 pm

Nematode wrote:What are the odds on Scotland not scoring this 6 nations?

None existent, they scored six points against the Irish.

by **RDW** Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:17 pm

I really can't see where we are going to score a try from.

by Nematode Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:18 pm

Cumbrian wrote:
Nematode wrote:What are the odds on Scotland not scoring this 6 nations?

None existent, they scored six points against the Irish.

tries

by captain carrantuohil Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:19 pm

England left points on the pitch, but that was car-crash rugby after a certain point. Scotland are a million miles better than that; you have to ask about the basic coaching of skills once again. Denton was head and shoulders the best of the Scottish forwards and was subbed after 55 minutes. Coaching by numbers is all very well, but it doesn't tend to work. Ford, Hamilton and one or two other forwards must now be on borrowed time.

This had a lot of similarities in the run of the play to the Ireland-Wales game, but Wales heads didn't drop as Scottish heads appeared to today. Something funadamental is rotten here and it needs sorting at once.

by mystiroakey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:20 pm

I wouldn't be so down. First half v Ireland you were slightly better..

You should be very confident of doing a number on Italy..

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:23 pm

regarding denton, i like his feistiness. but he is stupid. he kept running at the defenders and getting isolated and stripped. he has no guile. compare him to billy v's deft offload in the second half.

also, he became a very obvious and easily neutralised target when all scotlands attacks went though denton. was like ireland vs george north today. every time he got the ball, 2 green shirts sacked him.

by EST Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:28 pm

quinsforever wrote:regarding denton, i like his feistiness. but he is stupid. he kept running at the defenders and getting isolated and stripped. he has no guile. compare him to billy v's deft offload in the second half.

also, he became a very obvious and easily neutralised target when all scotlands attacks went though denton. was like ireland vs george north today. every time he got the ball, 2 green shirts sacked him.

He is a great physical specimen, but he needs to add other dimensions to his game - he has no guile or subtlety; in saying that, he was one of the only forwards we had who took the fight to the english, it was a strange choice to replace him.

by doctor_grey Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:29 pm

quinsforever wrote:very relevant stat is that in the second half, scotland spent less than 1% of the time in the england 22.

That is either an awesome stat (England perspective) or a terrible stat (Scotland perspective). Seems the pitch was as bad as predicted. Shame. From an England perspective I would like to have seen the England backs link up some before playing Ireland. That will be a heck of a match.

by Jhamer25 Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:34 pm

Oh Scotland i was counting on you to make my day but it made it worse. Huh

Johnson feel for the the "I will do better next week, i promise" from Ford, I can't see no other reason why he was picked again.

Their set piece need a good tidying up.

by quinsforever Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:37 pm

doc, that 1%, which i have never seen before, was down to the near 100% england line out win ratio (until youngs came on) and 50% scots win ratio on own lineout. so every time the scots kicked from their 22, england won the lineout, and when england conceded a penalty in the scottish half, england won 50% of the scots lineouts.

sh1t conditions made kicking critical, and once the scots were behind in the 2nd half, with an utterly dominated lineout, the 1% starts to make sense.

by sensisball Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:38 pm

Except that both our tight heads are poor scrummagers, even if Ford is dropped the Italians will fancy their chances against us in the scrum. Unfortunately they dont have any nematodes in Rome!

They also have an international standard 10, ironically last year's Scotland u20 stand off: Tomasso Allan!!!!!!!!!

If you take the last two defeats along with the heavy defeat by the springboks and an easy win by the Aussies in the autumn the confidence levels will be at rock bottom. Do you think our so called coaching staff can turn that, and our immense problems, around in two weeks? I think we all know the answer. This six nations is turning into the biggest meltdown of the last decade, and that is saying something when i think back to the nighmarish days of Matt Williams reign!

by nathan Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:42 pm

quinsforever wrote:regarding denton, i like his feistiness. but he is stupid. he kept running at the defenders and getting isolated and stripped. he has no guile. compare him to billy v's deft offload in the second half.

also, he became a very obvious and easily neutralised target when all scotlands attacks went though denton. was like ireland vs george north today. every time he got the ball, 2 green shirts sacked him.

isnt that more to do with his support runners though?

by Barney McGrew did it Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:44 pm

The starting pack will be up there with the best.

Care was very good with real tempo – not sure about the drop goals tho.

Farrell was also good – except his goal kicking which was not good enough.

Burrell was very solid, some good lines – a little lacking in pace tho.

12T was decent, his kicking was useful – but he only saves if for Scotland so far (and Scotland are pants – sorry).

May was exciting – his unpredictable running is a joy, bit rough around the edges at the moment tho.

Nowell was solid. He’s got a future.

Brown was his excellent self – the most under-rated FB around.

However as a unit the backs lacked a cutting edge – handling wasn’t up there and pace was lacking.

TY must go – give him a year with his club to become a test level hooker, maybe.

There’s no room for Goode or Dickson in a team that aspires to be amongst the best.

I’ve seen enough of Barritt to think he’s still got a place, and enough of 12T to doubt he has. We’ll see.

A work in progress.

by kingelderfield Sat 08 Feb 2014, 9:50 pm

Webber went off injured early doors today for Bath, commentary mentioned leg I think....

by **RDW** Sat 08 Feb 2014, 10:10 pm

Genuinely don't have a clue what Johnson was trying to get at in his post match interview...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26101767

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