Summer Transfer Window

by Mackem Mon 11 Aug 2014, 6:35 am

First topic message reminder :

Sunderland are apparently on for will Buckley again this weekend. Another one from Brighton.

Also after Nacer Chadli from spurs and Jonas from Valencia - along with still trying to persuade fabio borini.

by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 3:55 pm

When you consider how far their respective stars have fallen, surely Torres is worse going from perhaps the best striker on the planet to a bloke who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a spade.

Once every man and his dog knew Liverpool had £50 million quid it was a case of "bung another £10 million on our guys quickly". Carroll had just scored two against Liverpool and looked a bit of a beast. Torres couldn't have looked less interested if he'd taken out his mobile phone and started filming his privates during matches.

£35 million for a striker with potential was just crazy. Poor lad then got injured and was told by the new manager before he'd had a chance to prove himself that he wasn't a part of his plans. Not really a flop as he wasn't given a chance under the new regime whereas as Torres went 19(?) games without scoring which for such a previously prolific striker was absolutely shocking.

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 4:00 pm

At least with Torres he had done something in the past to justify such a fee.

Carroll had 1 good season in the Championship, half a good PL season and Liverpool made him the most expensive English player at the time. Torres was a year or so earlier one of the best strikers on the planet and Chelsea gambled he'd regain his fitness.

For me spending 35m on Carroll was worse than 50m on Torres.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 4:09 pm

Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe has signed for Norwich

Fer replacement, no idea what he's like let's hope he's good!

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:03 pm

West Ham are 1/10 to sign Alex Song. Probably on loan. Good signing if it comes off.

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:05 pm

Interesting player song.

Was fairly pants at defending his final season, was one of Arsenals best attackers that one season. Played the ball for that RVP volley if memory served

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:09 pm

GSC wrote:At least with Torres he had done something in the past to justify such a fee.

Carroll had 1 good season in the Championship, half a good PL season and Liverpool made him the most expensive English player at the time. Torres was a year or so earlier one of the best strikers on the planet and Chelsea gambled he'd regain his fitness.

For me spending 35m on Carroll was worse than 50m on Torres.

I'd go with that. If you halved each of their fees, then, at the time, you'd have said Torres was a bargain, but you'd have still said that Carroll was expensive.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:13 pm

He's a player I keep thinking Man United should sign, yet I actually don't care that much because I'd rather watch Noble play. I'm more interested in potential links to Micah Richards

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:14 pm

Apparently Leicester agreed a fee for McArthur then pulled out when their month long move for Cambiasso finally got signed.

Odd.

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:17 pm

GSC wrote:Interesting player song.

Was fairly pants at defending his final season, was one of Arsenals best attackers that one season. Played the ball for that RVP volley if memory served

He kept lofting balls over defenses for RVP to volley in. I think he scored 2 or 3 that season just from loted balls from Song.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:18 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:He's a player I keep thinking Man United should sign, yet I actually don't care that much because I'd rather watch Noble play. I'm more interested in potential links to Micah Richards

Isn't it likely both will play, with Kouyate moving to centre back to partner Reid?

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:21 pm

I'm not sure Song is the guy.

At this stage, they should just pony up for De Jong and reassess in 12 month time. He'll do at least a comparative job to Flamini

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:23 pm

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:He's a player I keep thinking Man United should sign, yet I actually don't care that much because I'd rather watch Noble play. I'm more interested in potential links to Micah Richards

Isn't it likely both will play, with Kouyate moving to centre back to partner Reid?

It would be a huge loss, really would, Kouyate already looks the best player in our team by a distance. As Vieira esque as I've ever seen.

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Fri 29 Aug 2014, 6:17 pm

I know transfer rumours are always very tenuous, but the Champions League draw should put the kibosh on a couple. Arsenal getting either Reus or Papastathopoulos, and Chelsea getting Carvalho have to become even less likely. I guess Bayern will be pleased to have wrapped up Benatia before the draw.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 6:36 pm

Torres to Milan seems near conclusion, reports Chelsea will go for Remy

by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:42 pm

Apparently, Torres is confirmed as signing a two year deal, on a free.

by compelling and rich Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:51 pm

they just want him off the wage bill, they need a foreign player off the books also for champions league registration

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:54 pm

lol minter. How much of that £50m did they get back then? Run

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm

2 season long.

Getting him off the wage bill. Feel sorry for Torres. Sad to see someone so talented lose it all so quickly

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:59 pm

Spurs have agreed a fee with Montpellier for midfielder Benjamin Stambouli

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 29 Aug 2014, 7:59 pm

Has to go down as the worst transfer of all time, running at a loss of £50mil plus wages of almost £50mil too for what was effectively that one goal against Barcelona.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:04 pm

I love how reporters have the quickest glance possible at a players wikipedia page to get their information, do they not realise that the stats on the side only refer to the league?

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:11 pm

I refer you to one season of Ibra at Barca

Don't think that will topped in a while. Besides Carroll was worse. As I say at least there was a reason for Torres excessive fee.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:16 pm

Liverpool recouped a fair chunk of the £35mil they paid on Carroll and were only paying his wages for 18 months, the resale value is a factor.

Torres looked done before he even signed for Chelsea, was having a poor season only saved by scoring twice against them.

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:16 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Has to go down as the worst transfer of all time, running at a loss of £50mil plus wages of almost £50mil too for what was effectively that one goal against Barcelona.

And they were going through anyway hee hee.

by kingraf Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:25 pm

To be fair he also hit the shot that set up the corner that led to the equaliser in Munich. Didn't he also score a crucial goal in the Europa?

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:39 pm

And Chelsea gamble was he would get over his injury. He never did unfortunately.

I'd rather gamble on the world class striker than the guy with half a season in the top flight.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 8:59 pm

It's also pretty relative. Veron was pretty bad, Bebe is so hard to understand, Ali Dia is the pinnacle of nonsense, Alou Diarra was such a waste of space at our place

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 29 Aug 2014, 9:05 pm

Veron just didn't adapt to the pace of the league, he always looked pretty good when we played in Europe but unfortunately we had the ginger prince who was simply better than he was. It gets overplayed a bit how bad he was for us and I never understood the deal myself because we didn't need him but he was one of the best in the world and did Ok.

One day I think we'll find out something rather unsavoury about the Bebe deal, it's so odd that it has to be bent there's no other explanation, we could have got him for free weeks earlier.

by GSC Fri 29 Aug 2014, 9:26 pm

Mitroglu for Fulham is up there

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 9:28 pm

Did he not break his leg as soon as he transferred?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 9:40 pm

Liverpool's £7m loss on Robbie Keane after 6 months still baffles me

by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:16 pm

Anyone remember Xisco? Signed for about £6m, spent like four-and-a-half years at Newcastle & the Spaniard was on £50K/week. He only played for us only just over ten times. £11M is the apparently how much he received in wages from the club over that time period.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:36 pm

Oh Xisco.

by **Crimey** Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:46 pm

Interesting theory about the Bebe deal.

Shock summer signing Bebe moves to UTD for £7.4m – Baffles everyone at OT and around the world why we paid so much for an unknown & unseen player on the recommendation of Ferguson’s former assistant and Portugal’s then coach, Carlos Queiroz and local Scouts.

So here goes…. During the WC… Nani is mysteriously sent home with a supposed shoulder injury sustained in training…. hours before a “surprise” visit from the Drug Testers. Nani who had unknowingly (i like to imagine) taken some performance enhancing drugs is going to fail the test and be banned indefinitely for 8-12months…. UTD and Portugal lose out big time!

Knowing the issue… SAF the grand old wizard convinces Queiroz to remove Nani with the injury and also create distractions and problems with the Drug Testers allowing Nani to leave and avoid consequences of a ban.

As a result… Quieroz is later fined and investigated and subsequently dismissed from post. SAF scurries across to Portugal to his defence as character reference. Knowing he will lose his post but grateful for the deed in allowing Nani to escape punishment…. SAF then pays £7.4m for an unknown player called Bebe.

Where does it fit together…. well Bebe’s agent to broker the deal is non other than Jorge Mendes… who is also the agent of Carlos Queiroz. Put 2 & 2 together – Mendes cuts out former agent Gonçalo Reis, who had represented Bebé when he moved to Vitória and brokers the £7.4m deal to UTD…. of which a huge proportion goes to Queiroz for getting Nani off the hook….. and obviously some to Mendes for brokering…. and we get an unknown quantity in Bebe…. who may well be decent player or a complete flop…

…..bottom of the story is… it was all about paying Queiroz off for his drug test evasion tactics for Nani….

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:50 pm

If Nani was on PEDs the whole time I'd hate to see him without them!!

by Fernando Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:06 pm

Daniel Agger heading to Brondby for 4m

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:15 pm

Nah surely not????

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:20 pm

Interesting theory were it not for the fact Nani would have had to take the test regardless or be banned just like Rio was, it definitely has something to do with Queiroz though, not that i'm that bothered he did mastermind us to Moscow in 2008.

by Fernando Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:28 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Nah surely not????

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11065221/Daniel-Agger-to-leave-Liverpool-for-Brondby-for-nominal-transfer-fee.html

by The Special Juan Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:37 pm

Jeez, that's a shame. I'm a fan of Agger.

by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:42 pm

Fernando wrote:Daniel Agger heading to Brondby for 4m

Surprising, but he obviously wants to go back home to his former club & win trophies for a club he dearly loves. What is he 30? He's a multi-millionaire, I think it was Barcelona or nothing for Agger, in terms of staying around in the top leagues. Good luck to him.

I'd still have him over Sakho mind.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 30 Aug 2014, 12:15 am

Yeah I like Agger I'm a little unsure why he's been frozen out seemingly at Liverpool but fair play to him for going back to his homeland

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 30 Aug 2014, 12:26 am

"@CharlieWyett: Leicester looking to sign David McGoldrick of Ipswich for £8million. Incredible amount of money. #lcfc #itfc"

Leicester making a late push to go into my relegation predictions

by Ent Sat 30 Aug 2014, 12:52 am

Agger has had a nothing career really, shouldn't be going back to brondby when he is only 30.

by GSC Sat 30 Aug 2014, 7:49 am

5.5m for Assombalonga looks more a bargain by the week.

by CFCNick Sat 30 Aug 2014, 8:02 am

Whatever happened to Championship clubs coming up and buying the Les Ferdinand's of the Prem? Or even buying a decent SPL striker?

by Nakatomi Plaza Sat 30 Aug 2014, 8:18 am

Lassana Diarra's having a medical at QPR this morning according to Sky. Wish I had placed money on that when I predicted Redknapp would be sniffing around last month.

by freemo Sat 30 Aug 2014, 8:22 am

shame about Agger, very good defender, and harshly frozen out at Liverpool..

by Gerry SA Sat 30 Aug 2014, 9:13 am

Manchester United have agreed £14.3m fee for Ajax utility man Daley Blind.

A few media outlets are running a story suggesting Marcos Rojo move could be nullified due to third party ownership dispute.

by Ent Sat 30 Aug 2014, 9:30 am

Blind joining.

I thought we had signed Rojo already, Sporting and the 3rd party can argue about the money distribution amongst themselves.

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