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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:33 pm

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Yeah that definitely has a point and relevance. It shows how ludicrous a comment that is.

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Post by Hero Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Hero wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Where dem Liverpool fans at?

After last week I've learnt to save gloating until the final whistle had been blown Whistle

Lesson learnt!

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:55 pm

Two teams with awful defences today. All the goals have been gifts

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:56 pm

Cant believe anyone would refer to us as WHU

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Post by Fernando Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:18 pm

Rooney leading by example LOL

Way to put your team under pressure when your actually doing well...

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:18 pm

Who? Whistle
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Post by Guest Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:19 pm

John Hartson is wondering why Wayne Rooney lashes out with his boot.

Berkovic anyone?

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:19 pm

Aw what???? Idiot, swap him for Falcao.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:41 pm

McNair saves the day, wonderful defending. Deserve a point but we wont get it

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Questions must be asked why it's taken so long for West Ham to take advantage of a really.... inexperienced Utd defence.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:45 pm

Why has Wenger put ozil on the wing and left Sanchez on the bench

I mean huh
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:49 pm

Oh my goodness Pelle's goal was amazing.
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Post by kingraf Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:51 pm

lol, lampard scored again...
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Where dem Liverpool fans at?
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:55 pm

Thank god for that, Mcnair on his debut saved us with that brilliant defensive header.

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Post by Stella Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:50 pm

Was the Rooney challenge that bad? I'm hearing 'shocker' and 'not that bad'
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Post by kingraf Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:54 pm

It's not that bad. You can see why it's been given a red, but it certainly wasn't a Shawcross. I think the "shocker" is more because he's the captain. Lord knows why, being a footie captain is the equivalent of being the Dmitry Medvedev.
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Post by Stella Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:57 pm

Thanks raf.

The 'shocker' was quoted by a Chelsea fan who hated every other team, apart from his own. Possibly just a stupid challenge if it had been say Carrick, RVP etc.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:02 pm

That looked like a penalty to me.
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Post by Hero Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:14 pm

Scholes would do that sort of tackle and everyone would just laugh and say 'typical Scholes'

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Post by kingraf Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:24 pm

Arsenal need to hire a new physio, masseuse and performance efficiency analyst. There's no way all these injuries, and the extended time taken to recover are just bad luck
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Post by compelling and rich Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:59 pm

Hero wrote:Scholes would do that sort of tackle and everyone would just laugh and say 'typical Scholes'

nonsense, scholes was a very intelligent footballer. he knew how to stop a attack without just booting someone like that scouse numpty

hence lots of yellows, but very little reds

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Post by kingraf Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:05 pm

"Fantasíc dummy by Wellbeck, swings and misses
Throws everybody off, including the goalkeeper."

Honestly the funniest thing I've heard this season
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Post by kingraf Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:24 pm

LE Arse remain unbeaten
#Invincibles
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:39 pm

Would aguero be considered with Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez/Neymar (if not already) if he could stay fit?

For me he'd easily be
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:45 pm

Aguero > Suarez > Bale > Neymar
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Post by Fernando Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:54 pm

Rooney ya Mr Winklechops.

If he had kicked his ankle to trip him then yellow but he kicked him knee height like a Mr Winklechops so red.


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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:54 pm

Can't argue with the decision - Rooney booted him. Doesn't even qualify as a challenge.
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Post by Fernando Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:02 pm

It's not like you even lacked defenders it's was 4 vs 2 (5 v 3 with Shrek/Downing)

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:19 pm

Yeah Phil Neville was saying. He's done it so many times before and should have been sent off more than he has been. Perhaps he didn't trust the defence?
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:22 pm

The only way the Jagielka goal could be better is if Tony Hibbert had scored it.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:23 pm

Its amazing someone with the potential of John Stones came from Barnsley.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:30 pm

Pelle's goal is totes amazeballs.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:52 pm

The thing I love most about the Jagielka goal is how awkward he looks before contact is made.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:04 am

Phil Neville had a bit of a mare tonight.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:17 am

Not sure why Allardyce is complaining about the offside, marginal as it was, both his head and knee were clearly offside. The moment an official makes a good decision it gets questioned as being too good to be true.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:45 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Not sure why Allardyce is complaining about the offside, marginal as it was, both his head and knee were clearly offside. The moment an official makes a good decision it gets questioned as being too good to be true.

He's an inch offside, such a lucky call and in no way affected the goal. United got very lucky

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:47 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Not sure why Allardyce is complaining about the offside, marginal as it was, both his head and knee were clearly offside. The moment an official makes a good decision it gets questioned as being too good to be true.

He's an inch offside, such a lucky call and in no way affected the goal. United got very lucky

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:23 am

He was offside and whether it affected the goal or not is not the point.

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Post by Stella Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:25 am

Having seen the Rooney incident, yes, a certain red. If he had clipped him lower leg, then yellow, possibly. Not that dangerous, just mindless.
Some great goals yesterday, Pelles winning it with Austin's and Jags's a close second and third. Forgot about Rooney's goal. Superb wing work, and a very good finish.


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Post by Stella Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:26 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:He was offside and whether it affected the goal or not is not the point.

I agree. Hang on, he scored the goal.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:45 am

Its offside and got called, thus the correct call. I can see why west ham are moaning but you can't have a go at a lino for making the right call that's a bit of a #headsgone
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:16 am

Big Sam is the biggest idiot. Moaning at a lino making the correct decision! Christ I do love to moan at officials but give the bloke a break. Rooney is an idiot as well. Awful foul and very unprofessional.

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Post by compelling and rich Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:46 am

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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Not sure why Allardyce is complaining about the offside, marginal as it was, both his head and knee were clearly offside. The moment an official makes a good decision it gets questioned as being too good to be true.

He's an inch offside, such a lucky call and in no way affected the goal. United got very lucky

the correct decision was made, hows that lucky! picard

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:08 pm

Cos its beyond marginal and no benefit of the doubt was given to the attacker. The luck is that so many of those calls don't go that way, if you take your understanding of luck to a logical level

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:10 pm

It was clearly offisde Dolph, it wasn't beyond marginal at all, the linesman made the right decision 100% and of course no benefit of the doubt is given to the attacker, what is that even meant to mean?

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Post by compelling and rich Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:22 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It was clearly offisde Dolph, it wasn't beyond marginal at all, the linesman made the right decision 100% and of course no benefit of the doubt is given to the attacker, what is that even meant to mean?

that it should be allowed to west ham, but not united me thinks. he would be in outrage if we won by a goal that was offside

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:46 pm

Well his knee is in line with the defender, and his head is in line with the arm of the defender, so its definitely inches. The benefit of doubt is meant to go to the attacker in such situations. I'll let you look it up. I'm not saying it should have been, I just think its very lucky it went your way.

I was supremely unimpressed with United throughout the whole game. McNair was a credit to himself, showed composure and handled the occasion. Rooney was the only attacker making anything happen and Rafael also played very well and showed why he was such a big miss earlier in the season. Falcao and RVP up front is just two players who offer nothing for 80% of the game. Should be interesting to see them with Mata in behind. Rooney is definitely outperforming the two ahead of him up top, but Mata hasnt worked in a United side with two natural strikers making runs ahead of him yet. Should be able to pick some holes open.

But Blind, Herrera and Di Maria offered so little in midfield. Against ours that was missing its two best players, I thought United really were poor. We dominated them throughout the second half even before the red and on the balance of play probably deserved more than a point, even though we went away with nothing.

That said, the ball retention is so far improved from last season for both sides. United seem comfortable with the ball at their feet across the park, which definitely couldnt be said last season. And we look so much better with more movement.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:53 pm

Your first line pinpoints the problem here, the arm is a non playable part of the body so doesn't affect an offside decision, Nolans head and Knee were both clearly beyond the defenders body. It was offside Dolph so why would there be any sort of doubt.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:57 pm

The knees are in line. I know the arm doesnt count as such, but I think its very lucky that its been given. Considering the split second in it, the lino cant have known for sure. I also think its slightly unfortunate that Nolan is looking round to see the ball and thus is offside, seems counter productive to that be an offense.

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Post by GSC Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:02 pm

When you're talking about such margins, its probably fair to accept it could reasonably go either way
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