Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread VI - Banter Boogaloo

[George Carlin]

First topic message reminder :

Prehistorical Patter:

https://www.606v2.com/t48240-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread
https://www.606v2.com/t51313-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-ii
https://www.606v2.com/t53119-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iii
https://www.606v2.com/t54519-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iv
https://www.606v2.com/t55409-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-v-the-fun-continues

A. Edinburgh


1. League Results

Fri 5 Sep: Munster Rugby 13 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 12 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 13 - 14 Connacht Rugby

Sun 21 Sep: Ospreys 62 - 13 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 26 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 20 Scarlets

Fri 3 Oct: Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 11 Oct: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 10 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 31 Oct: Leinster Rugby 33 - 8 Edinburgh Rugby

Sun 23 Nov: Edinburgh Rugby 28 - 13 Cardiff Blues

Sat 29 Nov: Zebre 18 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 19 Dec: Edinburgh Rugby 48 - 0 Benetton Treviso

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby - 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Connacht Rugby 13 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby

2. European Results

17/10/14: Bordeaux-Begles 13 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

24/10/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 17 Lyon

7/12/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 13 London Welsh

14/12/14: London Welsh 6 - 24 Edinburgh Rugby

17/01/2015: Lyon 21 - 19 Edinburgh Rugby

23/01/2015: Edinburgh Rugby 38 - 20 Bordeaux-Begles

B. Glasgow


1. League Results

Sat 6 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Sun 14 Sep: Cardiff Blues 12 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 20 Sep: Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 26 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 39 - 21 Connacht Rugby

Sun 5 Oct: Benetton Treviso 23 - 40 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 11 Oct: Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 31 Oct: Glasgow Warriors 17 - 9 Benetton Treviso

Fri 21 Nov: Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Sun 30 Nov: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons

Sat 20 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

2. European Results

18/10/14: Glasgow Warriors 37 - 10 Bath Rugby

25/10/14: Montpellier 13 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

7/12/14: Toulouse 19 - 11 Glasgow Warriors

13/12/14: Glasgow Warriors 9 - 12 Toulouse

18/01/2015: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 10 Montpellier

25/01/2015: Bath Rugby 20 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

[George Carlin]

Okay - let's get it on:
https://www.606v2.com/t57304-ercc-pool-4-round-6-bath-rugby-v-glasgow-warriors

[whocares]

Ospreys have apparently signed Zebre Brendon Leonard. Can't help but feel Glasgow missed the boat here.

We're looking for someone to replace the most original and spontaneous player to grace the hallowed turf of Scotstoun. A guy who didn't cut it in a team who collectively aren't cutting it, is hardly the specimen I had in mind!

Funny you should say that because I noted Castres getting an absolute malkie from Leinster last night. This, twinned with the fact that they are currently eating it in the league (13th out of 14), makes me wonder if Rory Kockott would be up for a move. Now that's a great player in a misfiring team.

Now if Castres do get relegated, there will be few players up for grabs. Including your personal fav Max Evans

[funnyExiledScot]

I was hoping more that Richie Gray and Johnnie Beattie would come home. Gray to replace Kellock and Beattie just so he can learn from Adam Ashe.....

The most like for like replacement for Matawalu I can think of is Joe Simpson at Wasps - underrated scrum half in my book. I still think though that Sean Kennedy would make a good solution.

[whocares]

Yes someone like Gray is wasted there and would leave. That said you have to admire the loyalty of Scottish players like Strokosh who stayed in Perpignan while all the other high profile players left.

[RDW]

Would be great to bring Gray home, although he wouldn't come cheap.

Is DTH's contract not up this year too? Yesterday he obviously showed his worth, but Glasgow are very well stocked with wingers and all of them will be on big salaries - maybe Townsend will see him as a luxury he can no longer afford if he is to get a decent lock/7/9?

[George Carlin]

Ospreys have apparently signed Zebre Brendon Leonard. Can't help but feel Glasgow missed the boat here.

We're looking for someone to replace the most original and spontaneous player to grace the hallowed turf of Scotstoun. A guy who didn't cut it in a team who collectively aren't cutting it, is hardly the specimen I had in mind!

Funny you should say that because I noted Castres getting an absolute malkie from Leinster last night. This, twinned with the fact that they are currently eating it in the league (13th out of 14), makes me wonder if Rory Kockott would be up for a move. Now that's a great player in a misfiring team.

Now if Castres do get relegated, there will be few players up for grabs. Including your personal fav Max Evans

[funnyExiledScot]

Would be great to bring Gray home, although he wouldn't come cheap.

Is DTH's contract not up this year too? Yesterday he obviously showed his worth, but Glasgow are very well stocked with wingers and all of them will be on big salaries - maybe Townsend will see him as a luxury he can no longer afford if he is to get a decent lock/7/9?

Well if he likes Scotland I'd love to have him at Edinburgh!! Slap that 13 jersey on his back!

[tigertattie]

Would be great to bring Gray home, although he wouldn't come cheap.

Is DTH's contract not up this year too? Yesterday he obviously showed his worth, but Glasgow are very well stocked with wingers and all of them will be on big salaries - maybe Townsend will see him as a luxury he can no longer afford if he is to get a decent lock/7/9?

Well if he likes Scotland I'd love to have him at Edinburgh!! Slap that 13 jersey on his back!

But then we'd have two NSQs playing in our midfield!

[VinceWLB]

Rumours that Glasgow are chasing Simone Favaro, now that would be a great signing (not that i like stealing players from other teams, particularly Italians one). An extremely aggressive open side who punch way above his weight but could be missing when on international duties.

[funnyExiledScot]

Would be great to bring Gray home, although he wouldn't come cheap.

Is DTH's contract not up this year too? Yesterday he obviously showed his worth, but Glasgow are very well stocked with wingers and all of them will be on big salaries - maybe Townsend will see him as a luxury he can no longer afford if he is to get a decent lock/7/9?

Well if he likes Scotland I'd love to have him at Edinburgh!! Slap that 13 jersey on his back!

But then we'd have two NSQs playing in our midfield!

Matt Scott - 12.

Strauss would move to Glasgow in exchange.

[jimbopip]

In exchange for what? Some brocade scatter cushions?
Or maybe a chenille draught excluder, which would be slightly more fit for purpose and a lot more mobile.

[justified sinner]

Looking at t'Interweb tonight there appear to be strong rumours that Visser is leaving Edinburgh and Maitland is leaving Glasgow. Anyone heard any more?

[RDW]

Lots of rumours about visser - Maitland is a new one.

Visser has spent 6 years at Edinburgh and, although disappointing to see him go, I think a move will do him good. If he joins a decent team that is...

I'm not sure what I'd make of Maitland leaving - on one hand he is SQ by family, but something doesn't sit right for me if he only sees through his first contract in Scotland and leaves straight after....

Saying that, he's been a good, not great player for club and country - maybe a move will re-galvanize him.

Absolutely nothing other than rumour though, and no real credible sources so far.

[funnyExiledScot]

Looking at t'Interweb tonight there appear to be strong rumours that Visser is leaving Edinburgh and Maitland is leaving Glasgow. Anyone heard any more?

Maitland leaving Glasgow would be a blow. We knock him for having a worse strike rate than each member of the Edinburgh front row, but he's actually very good at rugby. Lee Jones is ever so slightly less good, and Rory Hughes will struggle to make the required impact from Barlinnie.

[BigGee]

If I had to pick two from three of DTH, Seymour and Maitland, then I would certainly go for the first two, both of whom just seem more natural try scorers, which is what you want from a winger.

We certainly have not seen Maitland at his best this year though, plenty of season left though for him to come on to his game.

[VinceWLB]

Maitland is what i call a classy player, very technical and ultra fast but doesn't have the strength and ability to beat defenders like DTH and Seymour but i would still give him a 2 year extension if he scores the game winning try on sunday. Always had the feeling he is a very big game player.

[teh_Dingmeister]

If Glasgow were looking for a similar type of scrum half to Niko they could do a lot worse than Sarel Pretorius at the Cheetahs. Quality player capable of scoring and producing outstanding tries. He is 30 now though so maybe losing a bit of pace. Scores tries year in year out for the Cheetahs in super rugby.

Fumiaka Tanaka could be another. At the Highlanders and goes toe to toe with Aaron Smith. Though considering he plays in an indoor stadium, the West coast weather might not suit his game that much.

[teh_Dingmeister]

On the topic of Maitland, his heart didn't seem to be in it for the game on Saturday. Dropped the pass for a loop that would have created the fourth try and was very slow and casual in cleaning a ball up that was hacked forward. If he does start for Scotland this 6 nations, hopefully Very will have had some stern words.

[George Carlin]

Maitland can't leave. Whom would Edinburgh fans take the p!ss out of?

[RDW]

Stevie Scott being fairly non-committal about the Visser situation:

EDINBURGH assistant coach Stevie Scott was tight-lipped yesterday about the future of record try-scoring winger Tim Visser.

The Dutch-born Scotland international is out of contract with the capital outfit at the end of the season and, although discussions have taken place with the SRU about the prospect of extending his stay in the capital, the governing body face competition from a number of clubs in England, France and the southern hemisphere.

“Tim, along with many other players, is coming to the end of his contract. I don’t want to comment on that at the moment. There are two sides to it. Tim has to make a decision as well. The process is on-going but there has been no decision yet,” said Scott.

[George Carlin]

Stevie Scott being fairly non-committal about the Visser situation:

EDINBURGH assistant coach Stevie Scott was tight-lipped yesterday about the future of record try-scoring winger Tim Visser.

The Dutch-born Scotland international is out of contract with the capital outfit at the end of the season and, although discussions have taken place with the SRU about the prospect of extending his stay in the capital, the governing body face competition from a number of clubs in England, France and the southern hemisphere.

“Tim, along with many other players, is coming to the end of his contract. I don’t want to comment on that at the moment. There are two sides to it. Tim has to make a decision as well. The process is on-going but there has been no decision yet,” said Scott.

Sounds like they've made him an offer, but aren't very hopeful that he'll accept it.

[RDW]

The Scotsman reported that he's had offers from AP, French and even Southern Hemisphere teams. I'm not sure how accurate the last one is, but if he has got an offer from a decent English or French team it would be difficult to turn down.

He will be on a big salary at Edinburgh so him leaving should free up some money. The problem at Edinburgh always has been attracting top quality players, which we need far more than squad fillers just now.

[R!skysports]

I think if Visser went it would not be a bad thing. Playing for Edinburgh must really have slowed down his development, and playing in a top team where they construct good opportunities could enable him to thrive

He scored so many tries in a poor team - imagine how many he could score in a top team

[George Carlin]

Yes, you could just imagine him at Saints with St George of North on the other wing. I honestly couldn't blame him for moving on.

[R!skysports]

Yes, you could just imagine him at Saints with St George of North on the other wing. I honestly couldn't blame him for moving on.

That would be a scary thought

[tigertattie]

Maitland may not be settling here in Scotland and may be looking to move back down under! If he does move back then he will be tarnished (rightly or wrongly) as a bit of a mercenary.

[IanBru]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

[jimbopip]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

I told you moving down to that London would ruin you.

[RDW]

Well what are the chances of Blake being named in the Edinburgh squad this weekend??

[VinceWLB]

Unless there is an 'A' game somewhere there is absolutely no chance he is getting named in an Edinburgh squad as he isn't registered for the challenge cup!

Have to trust the coaching staff for this one, Hugh Blake has all the attributes to be an absolute gem of a player.

[jimbopip]

If he is will he need a street map to find Murrayfield and a programme so he can put names to the faces in the dressing room?

[funnyExiledScot]

Maitland can't leave. Whom would Edinburgh fans take the p!ss out of?

You'll be keeping the Ruck Inspector though right??

[RDW]

Shame to see Jim Thompson has had to retire due to injury at 30. He was a popular squad player to have at Edinburgh and seems to have carried on in the same way at London Scottish. He played with my brother at under 18s colts level for our club and I managed to have a few games with him too (I was a big 16 year old) and he was a classy player.

There was even a spell when he was tapping on the door for a Scotland call up his form was so good. I remember Jack Cuthbert got capped before him and a lot of people saying that Thompson should have been chosen instead.

Favourite on field memory was the first game after Bill McLaren (his Grandfather) died - Stade Francais at Murrayfield in the HK (our backrow was Alan MacDonald, Ross Rennie and Roddy Grant - how times have changed eh!). JT had an inspired game, almost running the length of the field near the start of the game, much to the crowd's delight.

Also, his last act for Edinburgh was scoring a try in the Heineken Cup Semi final!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

It's on the Glasgow Warriors forum. Posted by someone who as per usual can't give away sources but he has heard that Maitland is off...blah, blah, blah.

Of course that doesn't mean that it's not true and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if he does go.

With Hogg, Seymour, Maitland and DTH all up for renewal, at least one was more than likely going to move on. If Maitland can find a club in the NH where is going to get regular game time, it frees up a significant salary to recruit elsewhere.

I said at the time and I still believe it the squad Glasgow had last season was the best it will have for a very long time in terms of depth. Assuming that we suddenly don't come into funny money and/or, Scotland dosen't start to produced loads of top class players.

[RDW]

Because I'm bored...

https://www.606v2.com/t57337-edinburgh-v-bordeaux-begles#2898312

[Weegie Wizard]

Maitland confirmed as leaving in the summer.  

London Irish?! Strange choice

[RDW]

It's amazing how many of these rumours end up being true eh?

London Irish is a strange one - they are obviously investing in the squad (Ben Franks signing too) but so is every other club in the league, and I can't see them being a top 6 team any time soon.

[IanBru]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

Er well...

[unlocks dusty filing cabinet, peers inside]

I hear Jorvik has a fantastic visitor centre.

Alternatively, does anyone else think that the return of Page 3 is indicative of mainstream society's broader inability to engage with the more complex arguments of radical feminism?

[RDW]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

Er well...

[unlocks dusty filing cabinet, peers inside]

I hear Jorvik has a fantastic visitor centre.

Just watch out for angry looking men with Crossbows!

Tell you what, I hope for Glasgow's sake DTH is signing a new contract, if not you will be stuck with a geriatric Sean Lamont and, well, Lee Jones!

[funnyExiledScot]

Maitland to LI is bizarre. You'd think he would have managed to land a better club, and with Brian Smith recently leaving I wonder who has been driving this from an LI perspective.

Still, Glasgow need to hang on to DTH and Seymour now, probably hold on to Lamont for another season and assuming he isn't in orange overalls next season, promote Rory Hughes to more regular first team action (I think he could become really useful). Then there's Lee Jones as well to ignore....

Maitland is probably someone you could afford to lose, and he'll have been asking for some wedge as well no doubt. Have I also mentioned that his strike rate is dreadful.........

Replacing Matawalu is more important.

[jimbopip]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

Er well...

[unlocks dusty filing cabinet, peers inside]

I hear Jorvik has a fantastic visitor centre.

Just watch out for angry looking men with Crossbows!

Tell you what, I hope for Glasgow's sake DTH is signing a new contract, if not you will be stuck with a geriatric Sean Lamont and, well, Lee Jones!

RDW, I was not aware that the Vikings used crossbows. Or is this a general warning that FES's domestic staff are taking a more strident approach to salary negotiations?
Has Tommy Seymour left Scotstoun as well? By my reckoning we still have ; Seymour, Selkirk Pixie (who has played well whenever called upon), Schlong who is learning new tricks every week it seems- offloading!!!- and young Mr Hughes. Obviously losing DTH would be a blow but I have a feeling that Toonie has someone lined up to come in for NoMaits.
Speaking of which... he made a huge impact when he first arrived, he brought a streetwise attitude to the backs and a mental toughness which has contributed greatly to Glasgow's recent success. I wish him all the best at the NotNots.

[RDW]

Do these rumours about about Maitland have an actual source?

To my mind, they belong in the same category of my filing cabinet as 'Interesting things to do in York' and 'Useful dinner-party conversation starters'.

Er well...

[unlocks dusty filing cabinet, peers inside]

I hear Jorvik has a fantastic visitor centre.

Just watch out for angry looking men with Crossbows!

Tell you what, I hope for Glasgow's sake DTH is signing a new contract, if not you will be stuck with a geriatric Sean Lamont and, well, Lee Jones!

RDW, I was not aware that the Vikings used crossbows. Or is this a general warning that FES's domestic staff are taking a more strident approach to salary negotiations?

Ah you have obviously never been to York - tour guides love to tell Scottish people that it is still legal to kill a Scotsman within the City walls, as long as you use a crossbow!

Obviously Seymour is still there, but he can't play every game. If DTH leaves then Glasgow will have significantly reduced their firepower.

[jimbopip]

Speaking of the NotNots... As FunnyExiled is neither nor can we rename him NeitherNor?

[MacKnocked-on]

With Maitland now confirmed as leaving perhaps a suitable replacement would be Robbie Robinson?

[Nematode]

Real shame - I'd have thought being a Lion he could move to France or a team higher up in the Aviva. Having said that his try-scoring rate hasn't been too good at all. Pity as I could have seen him at FB and Hogg at centre.

But I suppose he'll be on one of the top salaries. If that can help secure the likes of Nakarawa and DTH or secure a decent SH then it might be worth it.

[MacKnocked-on]

Real shame - I'd have thought being a Lion he could move to France or a team higher up in the Aviva. Having said that his try-scoring rate hasn't been too good at all. Pity as I could have seen him at FB and Hogg at centre.  

But I suppose he'll be on one of the top salaries. If that can help secure the likes of Nakarawa and DTH or secure a decent SH then it might be worth it.

Glasgow are going to have to sign some players soon, Niko and Maitland are two of the big stars that attract fans etc so any replacements will hopefully be fairly high profile. Obviously SQ players should always be the priority if possible, hopefully Lineen and Scott Johnson are busy as we speak.

[tigertattie]

20p says Visser ends up at Glasgow!

[RDW]

20p says Visser ends up at Glasgow!

Can you imagine the conflict of emotions that would go on in Jimbopip's head??

[tigertattie]

Jimbo's thought process

[jimbopip]

No conflict there at all: he's a superb finisher who would score lots of tries. However, bearing in mind that Alex Dunbar says that the biggest collision he ever suffered as a rugby player was in a training session at Glasgow, " Stepped into Mike Cusack and next thing I was doing cartwheels across the pitch", then the delicate one might need a season in the A team to toughen him up a bit.

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