1872 Cup - Rugby's oldest derby fixture

by **RDW** Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:43 am

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1872 Cup - Rugby's oldest derby fixture - Page 4 Glasgow-warriors

Glasgow Warriors V Edinburgh Rugby

History of the competition (Credit to Hugh Barrow of the Scotsman)

Hugh Barrow wrote:“Tradition is very, very important,” said Alan Solomons. “It’s the oldest derby and to be involved is an absolute privilege.”

Like many good yarns, including the William Webb Ellis story, that certainly has a degree of truth. There was certainly no cup to be won on the 23 November 1872 at Glasgow Accies ground Burnbank when Scotland’s two largest cities first met under the then 20-a-side Rugby rules.

Two of the Glasgow team, Tom Chalmers and Willie Cross, had an intriguing decision to make that week – should they play against Edinburgh at rugby or play against England in the first-ever soccer international a week later at Hamilton Crescent?

They chose the former so Queens Park took on the Auld Enemy on their own. A year earlier Cross had goaled the first points recorded in the history of international rugby at Raeburn Place in the famous first Scotland v England international.

Between 1872 and 1995 there was still no cup to contest, just the honour of winning, and for generations who played that annual match in early December that sufficed whether it was played at Burnbank, Hamilton Crescent, Hampden Park, New or Old Anniesland or Hughenden in the west.

The first real inter-city cup was contested in the 1995-96 season’s match, when it was donated by the match sponsors, Slater, Hogg and Howison. It had the sponsor’s name on it and that remained for the following season, but for 1997-98 a new sponsor came on board – Inter-City Trains. So it became the Inter-City Cup.

This initiative was very much driven by the Glasgow District Committee of the day, including the likes of Ken Crichton from Stirling County and Andy Little of Glasgow High Kelvinside. By then the Inter-District Championship had become Scotland’s qualifying competition for Europe, and it is intriguing that qualification looks set to return next season.

However, in late March 1998 came the SRU decision to condense from four teams to two for European competition and that sounded the death knell for the Inter-District Cup. Glasgow and Edinburgh played a one-off match in 1998-99 and such was the popularity among supporters that the IDC was resurrected for season 1999-2000. That lasted only three seasons, ending in 2001-2002 and thereafter the Inter-City Cup languished in the Glasgow District office in Somerset Place for a few years.

It found a new life when the professional teams revived it in 2007 and has since become the major draw in the Scottish rugby calendar with crowds of close to 14,000 registered at Murrayfield and limited only to 10,000 in Glasgow, at the old Firhill venue, because of stadia capacity.

Scotstoun housed the 1997-98 fixture and was Glasgow’s first home in the Heineken Cup, though the home matches in the European Challenge Cup the previous season (the four Scottish teams’ first season in Europe) had been played at Hughenden.

What the players of bygone times would make of the international make-up of the current teams filling the jerseys is anybody’s guess but the influx of foreign players was commented on as long ago as 1891 when it was noted that Edinburgh fielded some “aliens”.

What remains constant is that those who now play in Glasgow and Edinburgh shirts wherever they hail from have the privilege to bear the cities’ names and that is not an honour to be taken lightly.

Previous results

2013-2014
Glasgow 37 - Edinburgh 34
Edinburgh 16 - Glasgow 20
Aggregate - Glasgow 57 - Edinburgh 50

2012-2013
Edinburgh 17 - Glasgow 21
Glasgow 23 - Edinburgh 14
Aggregate - Glasgow 44 - Edinburgh 31

2011-2012
Glasgow 17 - Edinburgh 12
Edinburgh 23 - Glasgow 23
Aggregate - Glasgow 40 - Edinburgh 35

2010 - 2011
Edinburgh 22 - Glasgow 15
Glasgow 25 - Edinburgh 12
Aggregate - Glasgow 40 - Edinburgh 34

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2009 - Edinburgh won!!! Yahoo

Fixtures

Glasgow V Edinburgh
Saturday 27th December
Scotstoun Stadium
14:40 kick off
Live on Sky Sports

Edinburgh V Glasgow
Friday 2nd January
Murrayfield Stadium
19:35 kick off
Live on BBC 2

Teams for Second Leg

Glasgow Warriors
1872 Cup - Rugby's oldest derby fixture - Page 4 Gimli10

1872 Cup - Rugby's oldest derby fixture - Page 4 Gimli10

15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Alex Dunbar
12. Peter Horne
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Niko Matawalu

1. Gordon Reid
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Ryan Wilson
7. Tyrone Holmes
8. Josh Strauss

16. Fraser Brown
17. Alex Allan
18. Euan Murray
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. James Eddie
21. Ali Price
22. Richie Vernon
23. Stuart Hogg

Edinburgh Rugby
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1872 Cup - Rugby's oldest derby fixture - Page 4 Taurie10

15 Jack CUTHBERT
14 Dougie FIFE
13 Matt SCOTT
12 Phil BURLEIGH
11 Tim VISSER
10 Greig TONKS
9 Sam HIDALGO-CLYNE

1 Alasdair DICKINSON
2 Ross FORD
3 John ANDRESS
4 Anton BRESLER
5 Ben TOOLIS
6 Mike COMAN (Captain)
7 Roddy GRANT
8 David DENTON

16 Neil COCHRANE
17 Rory SUTHERLAND
18 WP NEL
19 Fraser McKENZIE
20 Hamish WATSON
21 Sean KENNEDY
22 Tom HEATHCOTE
23 Sam BEARD

by funnyExiledScot Sat 27 Dec 2014, 11:16 pm

Pretty depressing from Vern Cotter's perspective. Little to get excited about today. Glasgow deserved to win for showing ambition. Edinburgh had no idea what to do with the ball. Picking Strauss at 12 continues to baffle, and the other great leader we have, Coman, was utterly invisible.

Loved the decision to pick Kellock as MOTM. Probably the least noticeable Glasgow player on the pitch so well chosen Mrs Kellock!

Final word is for Clownshoes Clancy. Please find another job. If not I will hire you, just to keep you away from rugby.

by TJ Sun 28 Dec 2014, 9:29 am

I thought there was some positives even as an Edinburgh fan. turnovers is what killed Edinburgh -at the breakdown and knock ons as ever.

Tonks played well in parts but made a couple of mistakes at 10. Maybe he really is better at 15. Scott looked OK for returning from injury. 10 tackles. 2 knock ons tho. Cuthbert steady as ever. Edinburgh only missed 6 tackles

Nice from a Scotland point of view to see Weir and Dunbar have decent games. Both packs Scotland players looked in Decent nick.

Dull game tho

by **RDW** Sun 28 Dec 2014, 9:32 am

Weir was the standout for me and should have been motm (Kellock wasn't even the best 2nd row!).

Will give Cotter something to think about, especially if Russell's flakiness continues.

Other than that, we didn't really learn much from a Scotland PoV.

On Tom Brown - after missing the tackle on Lamont he then nailed him every time. He's got a lot of courage that lad - if he had visser's physical attributes he'd be some player.

by TJ Sun 28 Dec 2014, 9:39 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Weir was the standout for me and should have been motm (Kellock wasn't even the best 2nd row!).

Will give Cotter something to think about, especially if Russell's flakiness continues.

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Bit harsh on Russell - he is a really young inexperienced player. Scotland need options at 10 so its good to see Weir do OK

by **RDW** Sun 28 Dec 2014, 9:47 am

I'm not saying drop him by any means, but as you say it's good to have options if Russell's form does waver (which it will being so inexperienced).

by **BigGee** Sun 28 Dec 2014, 11:04 am

Weir had a decent game and his great kick made the try. He still has one howler per match though, that kick into the ruck was like one of my golf shots. If he could just tidy that up, he would be a real contender.

by jimbopip Sun 28 Dec 2014, 11:35 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
I'm delighted that Glasgow have gone with Kellock, Toolis will run rings around him,
Still, we have a slim chance, provided our forwards front up.
So that would be no chance then.

I should have also mentioned how pleased I was to see fat kid at 10 and the slowest winger of all time at 14. Would love to see Schlong race Strauss.

I have a good feeling about tomorrow. Glasgow overwhelming favourites but Toonie has certainly chucked us a bone by picking Kellock, Weir and Lamont. Just a shame that Gilchrist and Du Preez are out. They make a huge difference to our pack.

Big Al MOTM
Weir had a good game
Lamont kept running over Brown, got bored with that so set up a try.
Fes , can't wait to see your predictions for next week. laughing

by Nematode Sun 28 Dec 2014, 2:03 pm

Anyone know the situation regarding Harley?

by funnyExiledScot Sun 28 Dec 2014, 3:19 pm

jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
I'm delighted that Glasgow have gone with Kellock, Toolis will run rings around him,
Still, we have a slim chance, provided our forwards front up.
So that would be no chance then.

I should have also mentioned how pleased I was to see fat kid at 10 and the slowest winger of all time at 14. Would love to see Schlong race Strauss.

I have a good feeling about tomorrow. Glasgow overwhelming favourites but Toonie has certainly chucked us a bone by picking Kellock, Weir and Lamont. Just a shame that Gilchrist and Du Preez are out. They make a huge difference to our pack.
Big Al MOTM
Weir had a good game
Lamont kept running over Brown, got bored with that so set up a try.
Fes , can't wait to see your predictions for next week.

I did wonder at what point you'd dry out and come on here to gloat!

I'll give you Weir and Lamont, Weir in particular had a good day replicating his Parks-esque kicking game, but Kellock's nomination as MOTM was classic soft Glaswegian sentimentality.

by jimbopip Sun 28 Dec 2014, 5:19 pm

Fes, I was impressed with the Luvvies fans around us and how well they took their medicine. Hug

I wasn't really impressed with the players on the pitch though. They could still be playing and they would still not have scored: "Bash it up the middle boys, keep doing it and they'll get tired eventually. What? Plan B? Don't be so stupid, bash it up the middle."
Interestingly, when Glasgow had set piece on the left wing Tom Brown lined up opposite Dunbar leaving a very wide channel in front of Schlong obviously looking for the defensive line to drift across with the ball carrier. Weir was astute enough to see this and put a crossfield kick over which Schlong collects unchallenged and is then motoring at pace when he flattens Brown to set up the try. The MFL didn't show that much imagination in the whole match. picard

As we were leaving the Scout Hut we happened to stumble upon The Mighty Coo. He looked as fit as a butcher's dog and was in a very cheery mood. He reckons he is ready to play, "As soon as Gregor picks me." That makes two of us then, as I nearly said. I think we might see him benching at the Reading Room.
As for the drying out, nearly there.

by funnyExiledScot Sun 28 Dec 2014, 8:56 pm

Jimbo, for once we are agreed. Rather like the separatist movement, Edinburgh had no Plan B and paid the price. The biggest weakness of the Solomons regime is the failure to develop any sort of attacking game plan. The defence is better, as are the scrum and lineout, but our back line is utterly toothless. Glasgow won the battle of the top two inches hands down, and Weir was at the heart of that.

by **RDW** Mon 29 Dec 2014, 9:02 am

Apparently Edinburgh were turned over 17 times - a combination of our own mistakes and pressure at the ruck.

That's appalling!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Dec 2014, 9:52 am

That was without Glasgow operating a specialist openside as well!! Dunbar had a good game at the breakdown actually, he didn't have a flash game but did the basics really well. Swinson was also superb in that respect. Totally outshone old man Kellock around the park.

I realise I'm pis2ing in the wind even bringing this up, but we really do need to make some changes to both the personnel and the tactics. This whole "trusting the system" and "don't think, just do" approach is killing us. It's playing by numbers and it's completely negating our strengths. Yes, our defence is certainly better. Until Weir figured out what was going on and out-thought the defence with his kicking game, Glasgow were getting absolutely nowhere in terms of the contact area. It was as physical a performance as I've seen from Edinburgh for some time (poor Tom Brown excluded). But as pleasing as it is to see opponents being knocked back, we've lost all ability to think on our feet. We have no attacking game beyond simply hoofing the ball in the air and chasing it. Not good enough.

My XV for the return leg:

1.Dickinson (who had a really good game actually)
2.Ford
3.Nel
4.Bresler
5.Toolis
6.McInally
7.Grant
8.Denton
9.Hidalgo-Clyne
10.Tonks
11.Visser
12.Scott
13.Fife
14.Hoyland
15.Cuthbert

16.Andress 17.Cochrane 18.Sutherland 19.McKenzie 20.Leonardi 21.Hart 22.Heathcote 23.Burleigh

by jimbopip Mon 29 Dec 2014, 10:07 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:Jimbo, for once we are agreed. .

Just this once? I'll have to take issue with that.

Also, it wasn't just the fact that you were turned over 17 times: every ruck was painfully slow so when the backs eventually got the ball they also got a solid, organised defensive line. In that respect the loss of Harley (he looked bad when helped from the field) means Holmes will probably start which actually puts more pressure on you at the breakdown. If Soloman has a Plan B then now is the time to see it. If he serves up more of the same then it'll be a long old evening for you Luvvites.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Dec 2014, 10:13 am

He doesn't have a Plan B. As RDW says, Solomons blames the defeat on individual errors. He sees nothing wrong with the tactics or "the system". In his view we would have won had Tom Brown not missed that tackle on Lamont. He's deluded.

by **RDW** Mon 29 Dec 2014, 4:02 pm

Well the good thing for all parties is that Nigel Owens is reffing, so we should hopefully have an exciting game that isn't ruined by the ref!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Dec 2014, 4:14 pm

I can see the appointment of Owens helping Glasgow. They should play Naka and Matawalu. Owens loves an open game and those two collectively have more creativity than the entire Edinburgh squad combined.

by VinceWLB Mon 29 Dec 2014, 4:48 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well the good thing for all parties is that Nigel Owens is reffing, so we should hopefully have an exciting game that isn't ruined by the ref!

So infringe as much as you want as long as the game flow it's OK!

Agreed that this should in theory favours Glasgow.

If Solomons doesn't change some of his selection policy i can see only one outcome for this one given this is likely to be a much stronger Glasgow team. Really really hoping we can finally see the Coo in action! Welsh got his ass handed to him on a plate by Dickinson when he came on last week.

by **RDW** Mon 29 Dec 2014, 4:51 pm

I think we should just go for it and aim for 5 points - even if the score is 50-30 or something

Give the fans some entertainment, and give us much needed 5 points - dragons and blues are right behind us in the league.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Dec 2014, 5:43 pm

The benefit of that strategy RDW is that at least one of the Scots teams should get 5 points, and the other hopefully 2 (TBP and LBP). The goal should be to maximise Scottish points!!

by **RDW** Tue 30 Dec 2014, 10:01 am

Not great news on Harley. Doubts on Hogg and Weir too.

Although the results of a scan he underwent last night will not be known until later today, Harley was sheathed in a protective boot and on crutches when he headed for his hospital session.

However, Warriors head coach Gregor Townsend was more upbeat about stand-off Duncan Weir and full-back Stuart Hogg who also underwent scans on bicep and thigh injuries respectively.

Townsend said: “With Rob who knows [how long he will be out]. He got a good whack on his ankle and his knee and he was sore when I spoke to him. We have to wait and see just how bad it is, but he is definitely out this week.

“Rob was still in a lot of pain. He is also in a boot and he is on crutches and with a six-day turn around he is definitely out. He was going to be rested anyway but obviously that has now been taken out of our hands.

“But Chris Fusaro was confident when he injured his ankle over in Toulouse that he would be fine but is out for three or four months. So we will just have to wait and see how things pan out.”

In respect of Weir and Hogg the news is better, although Townsend will still face a sweat over two players who were major contributors to Saturday’s first-leg 16-6 success over Alan Solomons’ men.

Townsend said: “Duncy [Weir] and Stuart Hogg both required scans with Hoggy getting a scan on a thigh strain while Duncy has hurt a bicep.

“They are improving but these are cautionary scans. Let us say they are precautions and we are still 48 hours from the game. They didn’t train on Monday so we will have to wait and see.”

by funnyExiledScot Tue 30 Dec 2014, 11:32 am

Shame for Harley in particular, who has had a storming season making the Glasgow and Scotland 6 jersey his own.

If Russell and Murchie are both fit then I guess they can fill in for Weir and Hogg without too much trouble, although Weir in particular will want to keep playing after having his best game of the season on the 27th.

by Nematode Tue 30 Dec 2014, 11:36 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:He [Harley] was going to be rested anyway but obviously that has now been taken out of our hands.

“Chris Fusaro ... is out for three or four months”

Townsend will still face a sweat over two players [Weir & Hogg]

Interesting regarding Harley - he isn't the sort of player that gets rested, and his commitment is always 100%.

by **RDW** Tue 30 Dec 2014, 11:39 am

Nematode wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:He [Harley] was going to be rested anyway but obviously that has now been taken out of our hands.

“Chris Fusaro ... is out for three or four months”

Townsend will still face a sweat over two players [Weir & Hogg]

Interesting regarding Harley - he isn't the sort of player that gets rested, and his commitment is always 100%.

Scotland players can only play 5 games in a row.

by funnyExiledScot Tue 30 Dec 2014, 11:53 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:He [Harley] was going to be rested anyway but obviously that has now been taken out of our hands.

“Chris Fusaro ... is out for three or four months”

Townsend will still face a sweat over two players [Weir & Hogg]

Interesting regarding Harley - he isn't the sort of player that gets rested, and his commitment is always 100%.

Scotland players can only play 5 games in a row.

We really ought to find a way of extending that rule to Strauss and Coman!!

by funnyExiledScot Tue 30 Dec 2014, 11:54 am

I should instantly add not by capping them for Scotland!!

by **George Carlin** Wed 31 Dec 2014, 7:05 am

What did I miss?

by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed 31 Dec 2014, 8:35 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:He [Harley] was going to be rested anyway but obviously that has now been taken out of our hands.

“Chris Fusaro ... is out for three or four months”

Townsend will still face a sweat over two players [Weir & Hogg]

Interesting regarding Harley - he isn't the sort of player that gets rested, and his commitment is always 100%.

Scotland players can only play 5 games in a row.

We really ought to find a way of extending that rule to Strauss and Coman!!

Suppose these guys get their rest during the AIs. Strauss from a Glasgow point of view has been managed better this season with his workload. I would guess he would have been rested as well at some point (he still may well be) in the lead of the the Euro games, but injuries to others have put those plans on hold.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:03 am

I was referring to the great Andries Strauss DOT, rather than the lesser man that is Josh. My point was more aimed at coming up with reasons for Strauss and Coman (the Edinburgh leadership core) NOT to play, rather than concerns over their health.

Perhaps we could have a rule that neither plays when it's raining.

by **RDW** Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:15 am

High praise from Jon Welsh on Dicksons scrummaging

“Scrummaging-wise Ally is like a rock,” said Welsh. “But analysis is really important for us and scrummaging is all about a team and I’ll not say what I need to change, but Ally’s a great scrummager and has improved massively over the years.”

He continued: “I think now he is settled at loosehead and as a result he is playing there a lot more consistently. He’s also a superb athlete. I get on with him quite well, and he’s one of these gym junkies. He’s in great shape. He may be a prop but his physical attributes are excellent and he is massive part of the Edinburgh scrum.

What he failed to say was 'I had my ass handed to me by him'

by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:37 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:I was referring to the great Andries Strauss DOT, rather than the lesser man that is Josh. My point was more aimed at coming up with reasons for Strauss and Coman (the Edinburgh leadership core) NOT to play, rather than concerns over their health.

Perhaps we could have a rule that neither plays when it's raining.

Sorry, sped read the comments previous!!! Your comment makes more sense now.

My point around Josh still stands that he has to be managed better (and to be fair he has this season). Last season, I felt that he was one of the few who were looking not 100% in those last few games. Not a poor performer at that stage by any means, but just not able to reach the 100% levels we are used to.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:38 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:High praise from Jon Welsh on Dicksons scrummaging

“Scrummaging-wise Ally is like a rock,” said Welsh. “But analysis is really important for us and scrummaging is all about a team and I’ll not say what I need to change, but Ally’s a great scrummager and has improved massively over the years.”

He continued: “I think now he is settled at loosehead and as a result he is playing there a lot more consistently. He’s also a superb athlete. I get on with him quite well, and he’s one of these gym junkies. He’s in great shape. He may be a prop but his physical attributes are excellent and he is massive part of the Edinburgh scrum.

What he failed to say was 'I had my ass handed to me by him'

Thought the exact same when I read Welsh's comments.

by cakeordeath Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:48 am

Is the game on TV, I have been looking through the schedules, but can't find a listing

by funnyExiledScot Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:50 am

Dickinson has always been underrated by Scotland fans, largely down to idiotic coaches testing him at tighthead. His technique is strong and as noted in the article he's pure muscle and an awkward customer. In the loose he is superb. First choice for Scotland in my book.

Welsh must be concerned about his move to tighthead, particularly with Cusack coming back for Glasgow and both Cross and Low getting regular action in the Aviva. He is not performing at a level sufficient for international rugby, and I remain to be convinced that loosehead wasn't a better place for him to be, regardless of the stern competition from Grant and Reid.

by jimbopip Wed 31 Dec 2014, 10:01 am

cakeordeath wrote:Is the game on TV, I have been looking through the schedules, but can't find a listing

COD, it's on BBC2 Scotland, so we'll have John Beattie dispensing his pearls of wisdom rather than Hugh Dan the Teuchter Man.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed 31 Dec 2014, 10:02 am

cakeordeath wrote:Is the game on TV, I have been looking through the schedules, but can't find a listing

BBC 2 Scotland, I think. On the Red Button for the rest of the UK.

by cakeordeath Wed 31 Dec 2014, 10:15 am

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:Is the game on TV, I have been looking through the schedules, but can't find a listing

BBC 2 Scotland, I think. On the Red Button for the rest of the UK.

Cheers

by **RDW** Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:01 pm

STRAUSS HAS BEEN DROPPED!!!!

This is not a drill!

by jimbopip Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:05 pm

Warrior's team announced;

15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Alex Dunbar
12. Peter Horne
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Niko Matawalu

1. Gordon Reid
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Ryan Wilson
7. Tyrone Holmes
8. Josh Strauss

Replacements

16. Fraser Brown
17. Alex Allan
18. Euan Murray
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. James Eddie
21. Ali Price
22. Richie Vernon
23. Stuart Hogg

Glad to see the Jedi in the squad. Disappointed there is no Mighty Coo. The Tombola used the word rested, repeatedly, when explaining omissions. However, that set of backs should be too creative and incisive for whoever the MFL decide to place on the sacrificial altar.

by jimbopip Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:07 pm

p.s. If Baarff are in the doodoo over salary cap breaches might this mean the madmental one has to stay? Fingers Crossed

by **RDW** Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:36 pm

Edinburgh Rugby team v Glasgow Warriors, Friday 2 January, BT Murrayfield, kick-off 7.37pm

15 Jack CUTHBERT
14 Dougie FIFE
13 Matt SCOTT
12 Phil BURLEIGH Yahoo

11 Tim VISSER
10 Greig TONKS
9 Sam HIDALGO-CLYNE

1 Alasdair DICKINSON
2 Ross FORD
3 John ANDRESS
4 Anton BRESLER
5 Ben TOOLIS
6 Mike COMAN (Captain)
7 Roddy GRANT
8 David DENTON

Substitutes

16 Neil COCHRANE
17 Rory SUTHERLAND
18 WP NEL
19 Fraser McKENZIE
20 Hamish WATSON
21 Sean KENNEDY
22 Tom HEATHCOTE
23 Sam BEARD

Great to see Watson back too.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 01 Jan 2015, 2:10 pm

Delighted with that team. Who knows, we may even score a try!

by Nematode Thu 01 Jan 2015, 2:47 pm

No Strauss????

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by **RDW** Thu 01 Jan 2015, 4:30 pm

That's a frightening Glasgow back line - gonna absolutely rip us to pieces if we have as little possession as we did last week.

If only we had the defensive general that is Strauss!

by IanBru Thu 01 Jan 2015, 7:20 pm

Well, well, well... With the mighty Connacht beating the lowly Munster tonight, Friday's match really is make-or-break for Glasgow - win and we can put some daylight between ourselves and the following pack, looking slightly more secure for a home semifinal. But if we lose, Ospreys will start to look pretty good value for a regular season win.

With Edinburgh putting out a team which, to my mind, is far more conducive to attacking than last week, This is setting itself up to be an epic!

by **RDW** Thu 01 Jan 2015, 7:51 pm

Ticket sales looking good too - over 10k sold, and I've had to ale do with a seat in the back row of the east stand!

Just a shame all those fans don't turn up every game...

by IanBru Thu 01 Jan 2015, 7:54 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Just a shame all those fans don't turn up every game...

Come on buddy, you can't expect the Warriors faithful to come to every Edinburgh game.

Very Happy

by **RDW** Thu 01 Jan 2015, 7:56 pm

True that there'll be a lot of Glasgow fans, but there will be plenty of Edinburgh fans that only turn up once a year!

It's like church at Christmas - turn up because it is part of your festive routine, and make sure you don't make any noise! Very Happy

by Nematode Thu 01 Jan 2015, 8:46 pm

Glasgow really need to go for the BP, try and gain a bit of breathing space at the top of the table. Given the quality and width of the Murrayfield pitch I think to not get a BP would be a disappointment.

by funnyExiledScot Fri 02 Jan 2015, 9:10 am

Well annoyingly I can't go this evening. Something about Mrs fES' family all coming up from London in a car and me having to be there to greet them when they arrive, rather than sitting at Murrayfield.

I am in hell.

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